aquascoot wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 9:02am:


You mean instead of the richest parents just sending their kids to the best schools?

Karnal wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 12:01pm:


The richest parents  could spend their money on rolexes, yachts and mistresses....this contributes nothing to the herd.
The richest parents could spend their money on helping the cream become truly great and thus elevating us all....this contributes a great deal to the herd.


the "limiting belief" of many poor people (and it is a doozy) is that  there is a limit on success (untrue , it is an unlimited resource).
In fact, the absolute best thing that can happen for poorer people is that rich people become very succesful, entrepreneurial, dynamic and influential and then the success can be shared around.

i would call on poor people to go to the graduation ceremonies at rich private schools and cheer like mad.
they too are part of this success.

we all will cheer at the olympics, despite the fact few of us will be at this level.

we should be proud of our cream
our cream are our greatest asset.  even more so outside the sporting arena

Karnal wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 12:36pm:


Education is the best thing to lift people out of poverty.
Smart rich people can give their children advantages in terms of buying them a house, buying them a pony, giving them seeding capital to start a business.

But the education system is already incredibly fair.
There is absolutley nothing stopping a kid from a public school in a poor area getting into university and studying in any faculty.
And there are plenty of rich kids in private schools who end up at rehab centres and not university.

Education is the great leveller.

If you are the cream (smart and with the RIGHT ATTITUDE) then you can and will succeed in australia.

Intelligence would be fairly evenly distributed.
If smart kids from poorer schools arent doing well, this is the fault of the belief systems they are experiencing at home and nothing to do with funding.

our system is so fair, no one should complain about unfairness in the health or education system,

if they do, maybe they should have a little holiday and check out the USA or go speak to those of the "untouchable" class in india.

No.

If you are being educated in australia and you want to blame the "system" for your failure

you have....

Messed up.


you dont need to change countries 

Ask all those asian kids from poor public schools who are now doctors and accountants

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 2:53pm:


pure cream...the SAS...and we RIGHTLY give the cream the very best equipment and the best training, even though they would still be effective with a butter knife and a 303.

innocentbystander. wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 3:59pm:



Guess that counts you out.

aquascoot wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 1:21pm:


I don't want to insult anybody's life choices here. For reasons I don't and probably never will understand, some people do like education and I don't want to disrespect this passion if I can possibly avoid doing so.

That being said, while education may be "the best thing to lift people out of poverty" under our currant societal framework, my experience has shown that it is all but useless at lifting people out of boredom and misery. And if people's levels of happiness aren't sufficient enough to make their lives worth prolonging, then what good is the financial security that actually allows them to prolong it?

That's why increasing the level of incompetance in our society is such a crucial issue.


Karnal wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 11:58am:


As I previously explained, the people who aren't allowed to go to college (at least not in the capacity they would like) are the ones who haven't studied certain subjects or haven't gotten high enough marks on their HSCs.

But I am attempting to address the broader issue of anyone who isn't permitted to do something they want, either by law or industrial prejudice, because they "aren't educated enough."

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 9:53am:


I'm sorry to hear that the prejudices & "you can't do it" negativity of our society have talked you in to believing that you are so incapable, Bojack Horseman. There's no big deal about sticking a needle in someone, so long as you have the stomach for it (I freely admit that I don't). You just jam it in. Hell, even junkies stoned off their coconuts can master it.


Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 9:53am:


I can honestly say that I'm not jealous of anyone I know of who is significantly educated. I don't know a single one of them who has a life worth having. That being said, I am, like most uneducated people, oppressed and I live in a country where my fellow unqualified brothers and sisters are not aloud to shine, and personally I am fed up with it.

aquascoot wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 1:21pm:


You're forgetting one thing, Aquascoot.

Fate. Some people just have very poor luck.

Believe it or not, luck is finite too. The belief that your create your own destiny through hard work and the right decisions is a little overstated.

Anyone who's made it will tell you this.

Karnal wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 5:26pm:


the harder you work, the luckier you get