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Reply #45 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:53pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:51pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:49pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:47pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:34pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:29pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:23pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:18pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:16pm:
What do you both think??



I think you were dropped on your head as a baby ..... either that or a black guy buggered your mother and it pissed you off.
All upset hey. So that's a yes.
But you don't mind generalising and calling all Norwegians "very racist".



Who's upset? Grin Grin You couldn't piss of a fly if you tried.

I've based my opinion on my own observations and experiences with them ... have you even met a Norweign?
So you know how every Norweigan citizen ticks then hey? You've met them all? And you have a go at me for generalizing about muzzos???  Grin Grin Grin Grin


I didn't say I've met every Norweign. But I have met a plenty. I even have family there. And I didn't say every Norweign was racist. I was speaking in general terms. Something you seem to struggle with.
So generally. So normally  they are racist? So you've met 100, 200 what??


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Welcome to the "generalising" club slumlord!! Grin Grin Grin Grin Didn't you think you were a cut above in morally and attitude? Seems not.


I think Greg was wrong when he said you and a turd were twins .... I think the turd is way smarter than you.
At least I am straight up and honest about what I believe. You are deceptive and a liar who hides what he truly is.
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Reply #46 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:01pm
 
For those who are interested, some of the official reasons given by Norways Child Protection Services can be found here

http://www.mhskanland.net/page10/page122/page122.html



I'll pick out some of the more absurd ones, but there are to many to list them all. Even then, the list on the link is not a complete list.


(3)  Clean clothes are not placed in 'military order' in the cupboard.

(5)  The child looks eagerly at strangers around it and smiles at them. This means that it is not attached to its mother. [The mother stood talking to some people after visiting the social security office, while the baby in the pram looked eagerly at people around it.]

(9)  The father has a foot injury and cannot stand on a ladder. Therefore he is not able to clean the top of the window frames.

(18)  When visiting the children the grandmother wanted to embrace them. The CPS had to stop that, since it can create an unwanted attachment.

(31)  The daughter does not like fish-balls. This is a clear sign of incest. Cheesy Cheesy

(41)  The boy's parents fail in their care for him; they do not give him enough to eat. [The mother of one of the boy's friends noticed that he ate a great deal of cake when he visited her son in their home, and she reported this to the CPS as a cause for worry.]

53)  When the child fell over, the mother just picked her up and put her back on her feet, without comforting her verbally. [The little girl had not cried and was not unhappy. She was just beginning to walk and often fell over without hurting herself.]

(63)  The mother is clumsy when using the tin-opener. [Statement by a psychologist.]

(68)  The parents are too concerned with the child and over-protect it. [Cf (67).]


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Reply #47 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:02pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:53pm:
At least I am straight



bullsh1t ... you're a faggot boy
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Reply #48 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:24pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:27pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 5:50pm:
The barnevernet itself admits only 10% of kids removed were done so because of abuse.

So why did they remove the other 90%?? Just because they had the budget to do it?



Every kid that gets removed guarantees more money in their next budget. It's about protecting their jobs. I've already given some of the ridiculous reasons THEY gave for taking kids away from their families (see reply 12). Those were actual reasons given by Norways child protection services.


Nonsense. The reasons you posted are simply not true.

I wonder about people who think they can post such garbage and expect to be believed.

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Reply #49 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:34pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:45pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:28pm:
For those of us with kids, just imagine if you were  observed at your WORST moment of parenting which probably occurred just once and for a just a moment, if some out of control rampant children's advocate agency witnessed it.


It's worse than that. They're taking kids away for absolutely NO reason. Once they take them away, you have absolutely NO recourse except to take it to the courts, which can take years and cost a fortune.  Until then you see your kids for 2hrs a month, supervised. One family, the Bodnariu family, had 5 kids removed, including a 3 month old that was breastfeeding, just because one of the daughters was singing what was deemed a religious song, in the school playground. The family were well off, the mother a pediatric nurse, the father an IT expert with traffic control at the airport. But they were originally from Romania. At first they thought it was an honest mistaken and they would get their kids back, but it's now been 6 months despite they getting tested by independent psychiatrist and social workers as great parents. Those social workers  and psychiatrist don't count. The courts in Norway will only consider the evidence of the Barnevernets own in house experts.

In this particular case, the baby was ordered given back to the family last month, but the other 4 kids are still being kept away.


60mins should have been in NORWAY abducting kids.
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Reply #50 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:42pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:27pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 5:50pm:
The barnevernet itself admits only 10% of kids removed were done so because of abuse.

So why did they remove the other 90%?? Just because they had the budget to do it?



Every kid that gets removed guarantees more money in their next budget. It's about protecting their jobs. I've already given some of the ridiculous reasons THEY gave for taking kids away from their families (see reply 12). Those were actual reasons given by Norways child protection services.


Nonsense. The reasons you posted are simply not true.

I wonder about people who think they can post such garbage and expect to be believed.



It's sad, and I know it's unbelievable, but every single one of those reasons was an actual real life excuse used by Norways child protection services.

I can give you a link to a facebook page with a father in Norway who had his kids taken, if you like..


That link I gave with the excuses is from a professor at University of Bergen in Norway, she has acted an an expert witness in various court cases against the Barnevernets
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Reply #51 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:43pm
 
GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:34pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:45pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:28pm:
For those of us with kids, just imagine if you were  observed at your WORST moment of parenting which probably occurred just once and for a just a moment, if some out of control rampant children's advocate agency witnessed it.


It's worse than that. They're taking kids away for absolutely NO reason. Once they take them away, you have absolutely NO recourse except to take it to the courts, which can take years and cost a fortune.  Until then you see your kids for 2hrs a month, supervised. One family, the Bodnariu family, had 5 kids removed, including a 3 month old that was breastfeeding, just because one of the daughters was singing what was deemed a religious song, in the school playground. The family were well off, the mother a pediatric nurse, the father an IT expert with traffic control at the airport. But they were originally from Romania. At first they thought it was an honest mistaken and they would get their kids back, but it's now been 6 months despite they getting tested by independent psychiatrist and social workers as great parents. Those social workers  and psychiatrist don't count. The courts in Norway will only consider the evidence of the Barnevernets own in house experts.

In this particular case, the baby was ordered given back to the family last month, but the other 4 kids are still being kept away.


60mins should have been in NORWAY abducting kids.



They're not interested. My wife contacted them and they ignored it.
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Reply #52 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:43pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:34pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:45pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:28pm:
For those of us with kids, just imagine if you were  observed at your WORST moment of parenting which probably occurred just once and for a just a moment, if some out of control rampant children's advocate agency witnessed it.


It's worse than that. They're taking kids away for absolutely NO reason. Once they take them away, you have absolutely NO recourse except to take it to the courts, which can take years and cost a fortune.  Until then you see your kids for 2hrs a month, supervised. One family, the Bodnariu family, had 5 kids removed, including a 3 month old that was breastfeeding, just because one of the daughters was singing what was deemed a religious song, in the school playground. The family were well off, the mother a pediatric nurse, the father an IT expert with traffic control at the airport. But they were originally from Romania. At first they thought it was an honest mistaken and they would get their kids back, but it's now been 6 months despite they getting tested by independent psychiatrist and social workers as great parents. Those social workers  and psychiatrist don't count. The courts in Norway will only consider the evidence of the Barnevernets own in house experts.

In this particular case, the baby was ordered given back to the family last month, but the other 4 kids are still being kept away.


60mins should have been in NORWAY abducting kids.



They're not interested. My wife contacted them and they ignored it.


I don't think Tara's getting her emails at the moment.
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Reply #53 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:49pm
 
GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
I don't think Tara's getting her emails at the moment.



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Reply #54 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:51pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:49pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
I don't think Tara's getting her emails at the moment.



Grin Grin Grin


sorry about hijacking your thread Wink


I like the way threads meander about. I used to post at Whirlpool and the mods there are ridonkulous.
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Reply #55 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:16pm
 
Ohh, don't know how I missed this one on the list

(16)  The mother is very small. When the daughter grows to become a teenager, the mother will not be able to tackle her

Huh
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Reply #56 - Apr 17th, 2016 at 10:28pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:27pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 5:50pm:
The barnevernet itself admits only 10% of kids removed were done so because of abuse.

So why did they remove the other 90%?? Just because they had the budget to do it?



Every kid that gets removed guarantees more money in their next budget. It's about protecting their jobs. I've already given some of the ridiculous reasons THEY gave for taking kids away from their families (see reply 12). Those were actual reasons given by Norways child protection services.


Nonsense. The reasons you posted are simply not true.

I wonder about people who think they can post such garbage and expect to be believed.



It's sad, and I know it's unbelievable, but every single one of those reasons was an actual real life excuse used by Norways child protection services.

I can give you a link to a facebook page with a father in Norway who had his kids taken, if you like..


That link I gave with the excuses is from a professor at University of Bergen in Norway, she has acted an an expert witness in various court cases against the Barnevernets

I think you are lying.

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Reply #57 - Apr 17th, 2016 at 11:32pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2016 at 10:28pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:27pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 5:50pm:
The barnevernet itself admits only 10% of kids removed were done so because of abuse.

So why did they remove the other 90%?? Just because they had the budget to do it?



Every kid that gets removed guarantees more money in their next budget. It's about protecting their jobs. I've already given some of the ridiculous reasons THEY gave for taking kids away from their families (see reply 12). Those were actual reasons given by Norways child protection services.


Nonsense. The reasons you posted are simply not true.

I wonder about people who think they can post such garbage and expect to be believed.



It's sad, and I know it's unbelievable, but every single one of those reasons was an actual real life excuse used by Norways child protection services.

I can give you a link to a facebook page with a father in Norway who had his kids taken, if you like..


That link I gave with the excuses is from a professor at University of Bergen in Norway, she has acted an an expert witness in various court cases against the Barnevernets

I think you are lying.



and I think you're an idiot.  I gave you a link to the reasons, read it and enlighten yourself instead of proving your stupidity.

Here, while you're at it, here's some more light reading for you

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36026458

http://www.truelithuania.com/tensions-peak-as-norway-takes-lithuanian-children-5...

https://www.rt.com/news/263625-norway-children-welfare-protest/


plenty more stories out there once you get mummy to teach you how to spell 'google'


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Reply #58 - Apr 22nd, 2016 at 2:03am
 
They built this Barnevernet upside down. How are they supposed to get a paycheck if they aren't abducting children.

Same as policemen's 'quotas' for arrests. The system needs to track you doing your job so you can get paid.
What incentive is there to ever properly solve a problem if its your bread and butter?  Undecided
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Reply #59 - Apr 22nd, 2016 at 8:35am
 
Binary wrote on Apr 22nd, 2016 at 2:03am:
How are they supposed to get a paycheck if they aren't abducting children.



and that's the biggest problem with it. Their funding is determined by the number of kids they rehouse. That and the fact that they have no oversight.
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