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What's Helmut Kohl up to?
Apr 6th, 2016 at 11:48am
 
Deeply respected former West German chancellor Helmut Kohl has praised Hungarian leader and critic of mass migration Viktor Orbán and has announced plans to meet with him on April 19th.

Revealed in a sympathetic profile in Bild yesterday to mark the former chancellor’s 86th birthday the revelation that Mr. Kohl will receive Mr. Orban as a guest has sparked a wave of speculation and controversy in Germany. As a former leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), Mr. Kohl is the predecessor of present chancellor Angela Merkel not just in high office, but also in the party.

Mrs. Merkel has been perhaps Europe’s most ardent supporter of mass migration, using her position of massive influence within the European Union to welcome millions of both legal and illegal migrants to the continent. The most vocal opposition to this policy has come from Hungarian leader Viktor Orbán, who has fenced his country off and withdrawn from joint European efforts to redistribute migrants.
Now the idea that a former chancellor of Merkel’s own party has organised a meeting with a foreign leader who has been so vocally critical of German migrant policy has been called an “affront”, and one of Germany’s best-selling papers had said the news will set “alarm-bells” ringing in Berlin.
Not only has he asked to meet the Hungarian leader, but the profile also reveals Mr. Kohl is a fan of Mr. Orbán’s politics, has “always defended” the Hungarian leader “against various criticisms”, and sees him as a “European with heart and soul”.

Despite his enthusiasm for Mr. Orbán, some in Germany have hoped the 86 year old former chancellor will take the opportunity to brow-beat the Hungarians into submission, and to take a more German view on current affairs. Social Democratic Party leader Katarina Barley said of the meeting that as “Helmut Kohl is a committed European”, she hoped he would talk to Orbán about “his behavior in the refugee crisis” and about press freedom in Hungary.

The news of a potential meeting comes just six months after Viktor Orbán last met German leaders behind Angela Merkel’s back, having talks with Bavarian leader and senior Merkel ally Horst Seehofer, which again was badly received by Berlin.
As Breitbart London reported at the time, Mr. Orbán said at a press conference during the meeting that Germany should shy away from “moral imperialism” — the temptation to tell other Europeans how to conduct their affairs — and that Hungary didn’t want mass migration forced upon it. Mr. Seehofer said Mr. Orbán and Hungary had “earned support and not criticism” for their stance.

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Reply #1 - Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:31am
 
It might mean he's going to use his great influence to get Merkel out.
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Reply #2 - Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:22am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 7:31am:
It might mean he's going to use his great influence to get Merkel out.



will she run again do you know???....some do see their use by date long  before they get the chop..

she is lucky the bombers concentrate in Belgium if they started in Germany she would be gone long ago...

this migration thing has gone far too far.. for obvious reasons....it has to be controlled...
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Reply #3 - Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:40am
 
No idea cods. I guess it will depend on what the polls do between now & next year.
And of course on how many more invaders get in.
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Reply #4 - Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:05pm
 
Immigration may be Merkel's downfall like Thatcher's was the poll tax.
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Reply #5 - Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:02pm
 
AiA wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 10:05pm:
Immigration may be Merkel's downfall like Thatcher's was the poll tax.


this one is a lot bigger though dont you think??..

how much longer can it go on??...

people are afraid.. and no one wants to live in fear...
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Reply #6 - Apr 8th, 2016 at 12:37am
 
Germany 2016, I'm glad that Adolphs not around to see this.  Sad
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Reply #7 - Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:43am
 
One can only imagine what is going through the minds now of the former generation of German leaders.
Kohl is one of the few still around. They were a generation that rebuilt a nation into a world leading role and in the space of one year this woman has destroyed it all.
If you still had some clout you'd want to do something about it.
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Reply #8 - Apr 8th, 2016 at 6:30pm
 
You do long for the great fuhrers of Deutscheland’s past, Bogie.

Still, we won’t mention the war, okay?
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Reply #9 - Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:07pm
 
And as you well know Karnal, Kohl is not of Der Führer's generation so what's your point.
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Reply #10 - Apr 8th, 2016 at 9:34pm
 
What's Kohl's Helmut up to ?
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Reply #11 - Apr 19th, 2016 at 6:12pm
 
This is what he's up to.
He has a new book coming out: "Out of concern for Europe: an appeal".
In it he declares that the Islamic migration is in direct conflict with Europe's Judaeo-Christian culture and values and that these millions cannot be allowed to come to Europe.

An advance copy has been leaked to a newspaper and Merkel is said to be extremely embarrassed
Kohl is of course the elder statesman who reunited Germany.

(Let it not be forgotten that we have a party here who will likely be allied with Labor and which is promising us 50,000 Muslims a year)
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Reply #12 - Apr 20th, 2016 at 8:40am
 
A propaganda war is going on in Germany. The pro-govt organ DeutscheWelle is simultaneously reporting that Kohl is critical of Merkel on a number of fronts and at the same time that he & Hungarian leader Orban are supporting her refugee policies.

They have reported what Kohl said to the Tagesspiel, that Europe cannot be a home to the millions of Muslims because Islam is fundamentally in conflict with the Judao-Christian heritage. But they also report that Kohl & Orban essentially agree with Merkel's refugee policy.
The latter statement will be what they have been ordered to report and the former what the journalists themselves know and have written.
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