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Re: Are Muslim suicide bombers insane?
Reply #15 - Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:55pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:48pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:43pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:41pm:
They can't possibly be insane. We need to blame Islam.


Not all Islam, just the fundamentalist aspects of it.


Do you mean the tinted aspects, Gordy, or just the crazy, insane aspects?


Are you capable of a logical and serious debate, I think not.

Please read the book I recommended.

Here's some more info on Mr Maajid.
Will you be one of the lefties who hate him?
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/12/27/a-hail-of-hatred-falls-on-mo...


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Re: Are Muslim suicide bombers insane?
Reply #16 - Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:13pm
 
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:55pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:48pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:43pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:41pm:
They can't possibly be insane. We need to blame Islam.


Not all Islam, just the fundamentalist aspects of it.


Do you mean the tinted aspects, Gordy, or just the crazy, insane aspects?


Are you capable of a logical and serious debate, I think not.

Please read the book I recommended.

Here's some more info on Mr Maajid.
Will you be one of the lefties who hate him?
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/12/27/a-hail-of-hatred-falls-on-mo...




But you mean buy the book, no?

Are you getting a commission?
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Re: Are Muslim suicide bombers insane?
Reply #17 - Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:20pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:13pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:55pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:48pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:43pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:41pm:
They can't possibly be insane. We need to blame Islam.


Not all Islam, just the fundamentalist aspects of it.


Do you mean the tinted aspects, Gordy, or just the crazy, insane aspects?


Are you capable of a logical and serious debate, I think not.

Please read the book I recommended.

Here's some more info on Mr Maajid.
Will you be one of the lefties who hate him?
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/12/27/a-hail-of-hatred-falls-on-mo...




But you mean buy the book, no?

Are you getting a commission?


Yes, I'm actually Maajid. Why not listen to the free podcast then?
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Re: Are Muslim suicide bombers insane?
Reply #18 - Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:23pm
 
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:13pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:55pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:48pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:43pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:41pm:
They can't possibly be insane. We need to blame Islam.


Not all Islam, just the fundamentalist aspects of it.


Do you mean the tinted aspects, Gordy, or just the crazy, insane aspects?


Are you capable of a logical and serious debate, I think not.

Please read the book I recommended.

Here's some more info on Mr Maajid.
Will you be one of the lefties who hate him?
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/12/27/a-hail-of-hatred-falls-on-mo...




But you mean buy the book, no?

Are you getting a commission?


Yes, I'm actually Maajid. Why not listen to the free podcast then?


If you've listened to the podcast, why can't you tell us what this deluded fellow says?
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Re: Are Muslim suicide bombers insane?
Reply #19 - Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:29pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:23pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:13pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:55pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:48pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:43pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:41pm:
They can't possibly be insane. We need to blame Islam.


Not all Islam, just the fundamentalist aspects of it.


Do you mean the tinted aspects, Gordy, or just the crazy, insane aspects?


Are you capable of a logical and serious debate, I think not.

Please read the book I recommended.

Here's some more info on Mr Maajid.
Will you be one of the lefties who hate him?
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/12/27/a-hail-of-hatred-falls-on-mo...




But you mean buy the book, no?

Are you getting a commission?


Yes, I'm actually Maajid. Why not listen to the free podcast then?


If you've listened to the podcast, why can't you tell us what this deluded fellow says?


Why are you calling him deluded? Do you say that about all Muslims or just Muslim whistle blowers?
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Re: Are Muslim suicide bombers insane?
Reply #20 - Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:35pm
 
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:29pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:23pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 5:13pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:55pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:48pm:
GordyL wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:43pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:41pm:
They can't possibly be insane. We need to blame Islam.


Not all Islam, just the fundamentalist aspects of it.


Do you mean the tinted aspects, Gordy, or just the crazy, insane aspects?


Are you capable of a logical and serious debate, I think not.

Please read the book I recommended.

Here's some more info on Mr Maajid.
Will you be one of the lefties who hate him?
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/12/27/a-hail-of-hatred-falls-on-mo...




But you mean buy the book, no?

Are you getting a commission?


Yes, I'm actually Maajid. Why not listen to the free podcast then?


If you've listened to the podcast, why can't you tell us what this deluded fellow says?


Why are you calling him deluded? Do you say that about all Muslims or just Muslim whistle blowers?


Oh, sorry. I thought you meant that terrorist fellow you wanted to quote.
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Re: Are Muslim suicide bombers insane?
Reply #21 - Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:24am
 
I have a question?

When terrorists scream while preeching why do they hold up one finger.
I have heard several explinations, could someone plese tell me which is correct.
1) Its the IQ of the speaker.
2) Its the highest number they can count to and they are showing off.
3) It is the finger they probe their boyfriend with.
4) They hurt their finger and want to show everyone their boo boo.
5) They are showing others around them that they have not got their finger on the trigger, so they don't shoot him.
6) They are about to go into a dance routine and are getting ready.

Please explain, I don't like being confused by this strange practice.
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Reply #22 - Apr 8th, 2016 at 8:09am
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 7:24am:
I have a question?

When terrorists scream while preeching why do they hold up one finger.


Just as English archers would display the V signal, perhaps it's showing the world they still have their AK47 trigger finger in tact.  Grin
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Reply #23 - Apr 8th, 2016 at 8:39am
 
I still think its 3
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Reply #24 - Apr 8th, 2016 at 8:54am
 
How and why a military assault can be organised and made against an enemy position, involves a wider strategy, military discipline and dedication. They are rarely instigated as suicide missions except in the case of fanatical troops like the Japanese in WW2. In Western history, a laggard in desperate charge could be shot without question, so there were not a lot of choices.

Making a comparison with regular armies and religious fanatics who have worked themselves up into something like a trance of piety and hatred is tenuous at best. I have seen reports that Muzlims consider themselves the soldiers of Allah, so you might like to find equivalency if it supports your sympathy. There is also the overall Islamic declaration of War against the Infidel which has been exploited so effectively in recent decades by the Ayotollahs, Wahhabs, Grand Mullahs, and other witch-doctors of the cult. But you will not see any of them wearing a suicide belt. When push came to shove, bin Laden ran away and hid.
Some wars fizzle out, but many have grown ever more desperate and ugly. They spiral out of control with growing numbers of civilian casualties.

The question really was whether Australian soldiers would strap a bomb on to themselves to blow up women and kids in Istanbul. I believe they would have rejected the idea on moral grounds as well as those of self-preservation. Muzlim have demonstrated over 25 years that they have no such Western Style qualms about taking out woman and kids first before attacking military targets.

People like Gandalf will quickly reply that these Muzlim attacks on soft targets are the same as drone strikes in Pakistan. This flimsy comparison always dismisses any military caution or protocol as non-existant. It also forgets that military operations in the Muzlim areas were brought on by suicide bombers among the soft targets of the West first. This present Jihad is the one thing that unites Muzlims, and it began when their conventional armies were humiliated by Israel.



 
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Reply #25 - Apr 8th, 2016 at 11:33am
 
issuevoter wrote on Apr 8th, 2016 at 8:54am:
How and why a military assault can be organised and made against an enemy position, involves a wider strategy, military discipline and dedication. They are rarely instigated as suicide missions except in the case of fanatical troops like the Japanese in WW2. In Western history, a laggard in desperate charge could be shot without question, so there were not a lot of choices.

Making a comparison with regular armies and religious fanatics who have worked themselves up into something like a trance of piety and hatred is tenuous at best. I have seen reports that Muzlims consider themselves the soldiers of Allah, so you might like to find equivalency if it supports your sympathy. There is also the overall Islamic declaration of War against the Infidel which has been exploited so effectively in recent decades by the Ayotollahs, Wahhabs, Grand Mullahs, and other witch-doctors of the cult. But you will not see any of them wearing a suicide belt. When push came to shove, bin Laden ran away and hid.
Some wars fizzle out, but many have grown ever more desperate and ugly. They spiral out of control with growing numbers of civilian casualties.

The question really was whether Australian soldiers would strap a bomb on to themselves to blow up women and kids in Istanbul. I believe they would have rejected the idea on moral grounds as well as those of self-preservation. Muzlim have demonstrated over 25 years that they have no such Western Style qualms about taking out woman and kids first before attacking military targets.

People like Gandalf will quickly reply that these Muzlim attacks on soft targets are the same as drone strikes in Pakistan. This flimsy comparison always dismisses any military caution or protocol as non-existant. It also forgets that military operations in the Muzlim areas were brought on by suicide bombers among the soft targets of the West first. This present Jihad is the one thing that unites Muzlims, and it began when their conventional armies were humiliated by Israel.
 


Just listen to any commentary by ex soldiers from any western nation who've served in the Middle East.

It's understood there will be collateral damage but the planning to avoid it is immense and when it happens the is analyses and often compensation. There is collateral damage, make no mistake but everything is structured to do to avoid it.

The opposition uses collateral damage as a tactic.

I actually don't think much of the human species.
We're barbarians.
Perhaps a way to measure civility, and this is a low bar, is not the ease at which we kill the other, but the ease at which we kill our own and by that measure, we are better than them.


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Reply #26 - Apr 8th, 2016 at 8:20pm
 
I all for training terrorists.
Teaching the how to make bombs and how to detonate them effectively.




The final exam should be a live fire test, with a bomb vest, away from anyone who may be injured.
Safety first.

Of course the end of year photo would have to be before the exam.
And the exam results would be posted posthumously. Cheesy Grin Wink Cheesy Grin Wink

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Reply #27 - Apr 8th, 2016 at 9:54pm
 
Greg introduced the insanity defense after he had to backpedal on his insistance that anyone who mentioned Islam as a cause of Islamic terrorism is just offering excuses for the terrorists.
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Reply #28 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 3:23pm
 
Perhaps there is a better solution.

As terrorists have no problem killing innocent men, women and children in their misguided xenophobic stupidity, perhaps the problem is in a predisposition of insane and easily led devil worshipers.
Perhaps the gene pool needs to be thinned out of these people?

We can now determine the identity of these terrorists, after the fact, through DNA extraction of the remaining bits and pieces of the suicide bombers.

The logical conclusion would be to eliminate the gene that festers suicide and terrorism.

And as the bombers believe to die for Allah is sacred, we could simply eliminate the suicide bombers family and relatives from the gene pool, they would be happy about that, giving their lives for the cause, yes?

So, each time a bomber kills innocent people, we take out their genes from the gene pool through surgical elimination of anyone who may carry their genes.

That way they know that its not just them dying, but their entire family and all their relatives.
They may even consider it a less than good deal and have some sensible second thoughts.
Oh. just to be sure, the Imrans of the bombers mosque would be thrown in for good measure, these cowards are always happy to preach hatred and murder and suicide, but when they feel threatened they run away like little girly pants.
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Reply #29 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 5:57pm
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
Perhaps there is a better solution.

As terrorists have no problem killing innocent men, women and children in their misguided xenophobic stupidity, perhaps the problem is in a predisposition of insane and easily led devil worshipers.
Perhaps the gene pool needs to be thinned out of these people?

We can now determine the identity of these terrorists, after the fact, through DNA extraction of the remaining bits and pieces of the suicide bombers.

The logical conclusion would be to eliminate the gene that festers suicide and terrorism.


Good point, Valkie. That's FD's solution - ban those with Arab, Persian, Central Asian, Indonesian, and especially Malaysian, DNA.
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