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Reply #45 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 11:34pm

lee wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:17pm:

I'd give you nothing seeing what disrespect you have for modern Australia. Make your own electric car.

Don't forget your recharging points. Especially for long trips.

Can't you just use an extra long extension cord?

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Reply #46 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 12:00am

innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 11:34pm:

lee wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:17pm:

I'd give you nothing seeing what disrespect you have for modern Australia. Make your own electric car.

Don't forget your recharging points. Especially for long trips.

Can't you just use an extra long extension cord?

That's harking back to the old ideas of wireless in someones name Roll Eyes

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Reply #47 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 8:12am

innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 11:34pm:

lee wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:25pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:17pm:

I'd give you nothing seeing what disrespect you have for modern Australia. Make your own electric car.

Don't forget your recharging points. Especially for long trips.

Can't you just use an extra long extension cord?

No problems in Europe. From Osla to London 1200 miles for 5 Euros and NO extension cord !!

When it comes to electric car charging network australia is far behind like the NBN is.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33202 Gender:	Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached Reply #48 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 8:41am 95% bleached? Rubbish I watched a program the other day that stated the northern parts of the reef were in good order & the most pristene. And they will regenerate the southern bleach affected areas
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Reply #49 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 9:16am

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 11:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 6:15pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 6:05pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 11:29am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 8:30am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 8:23am:

its time for the inner city greens to turn off their air conditioners and sell their Jeep Grand Cherokees , go jump off the harbour bridge and save the environment from man made climate change

The Abos were doing quite fine before the white trash got here and screwed everything up with their hole drilling mentality. No destruction of the barrier reef when the Abos were running the show Wink

they were doing fine? stone age culture with a life expectancy of 25-30.

not 'fine' at all

but they lasted 50,000 years whilst leaving the environment in pristine condition. We will be lucky to last another 100 years with our paper money and fake economies Sad

Actually the aborigines made quite a few animals extinct and burnt the land so much that it's still not the same. Human beings leave a mark on the land no matter where they go. I will grant you that the whiteman has done some real damage to the land but we must remember that the system feeds us and we owe it more than we think.

You say 'system' but you won't say 'socialism'!

Lol, you are a f"n junior Cheesy

I think you can well and truly count yourself out of the business acumen club of Australia!

Grin

Haven't you got an internet connection to fix numptoid?

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Reply #51 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 10:14am

Gnads wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 8:41am:

95% bleached? Rubbish

I watched a program the other day that stated the northern parts of the reef were in good order & the most pristene.

And they will regenerate the southern bleach affected areas

Gnads, the perennial dupe.

You can fool some of the people all of the time.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20194 Gender:	Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached Reply #52 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 10:25am Svengali wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 10:14am: You can fool some of the people all of the time. you try all the time.
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Svengali Gold Member Offline Please don't thank me Posts: 3474 Gender:	Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached Reply #53 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 10:51am lee wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 10:25am: Svengali wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 10:14am: You can fool some of the people all of the time. you try all the time. Denizen lee is my crash test dummy.
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Reply #54 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 11:13am

Gnads wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 8:41am:

95% bleached? Rubbish

I watched a program the other day that stated the northern parts of the reef were in good order & the most pristene.

And they will regenerate the southern bleach affected areas

You will never get a government grant with that attitude.

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Reply #55 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 11:40am

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 9:31am:

Gnads wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 8:41am:

95% bleached? Rubbish

I watched a program the other day that stated the northern parts of the reef were in good order & the most pristene.

And they will regenerate the southern bleach affected areas

Was that on Foxtel Cheesy

LOL

No ... mainstream media Roll Eyes

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Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #56 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 11:41am

Svengali wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 10:14am:

Gnads wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 8:41am:

95% bleached? Rubbish

I watched a program the other day that stated the northern parts of the reef were in good order & the most pristene.

And they will regenerate the southern bleach affected areas

Gnads, the perennial dupe.

You can fool some of the people all of the time.

You ought have your mouth washed out with bleach
might change your stinking BS disposition.

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Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #57 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 11:59am

Gnads wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 11:41am:

Svengali wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 10:14am:

Gnads wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 8:41am:

95% bleached? Rubbish

I watched a program the other day that stated the northern parts of the reef were in good order & the most pristene.

And they will regenerate the southern bleach affected areas

Gnads, the perennial dupe.

You can fool some of the people all of the time.

You ought have your mouth washed out with bleach
might change your stinking BS disposition.

Gnads is a master debater.

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Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #58 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 12:26pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 30^th, 2016 at 5:04pm:

it is the THIRD bleaching even since 98 which means... tada...

IT HAS RECOVERED THREE TIMES IN THE PAST 20 years.

coral bleaching is a feature of coral in the first place.

firstly the water HASNT risen byt more than a few centimetres. It HASNT warmed by more than a few hundreths of a degree.. perhaps. and PH levels havent changed at all.

nothing new to see here.

This is the third time.

1998 - first ever recorded bleaching: 50% and about 5 to 10% death
2002 - 60% bleaching, and about 5 to 10% death.
GBR had a lucky escape in 2010 - global bleaching event.
2016 - so far, 95% bleaching.

Backed up by the observation that the abundance of coral has remained stable in the northern sector of the Great Barrier Reef, whereas the central and southern sectors have declined by 50% over the past 27 years (before this breaching event. So, the real consequence of this event, we will know in the future but the numbers are not good).

Bleaching:

Many types of coral have a special symbiotic relationship with a tiny marine algae (zooxanthellae) that live inside corals' tissue and are very efficient food producers that provide up to 90 per cent of the energy corals require to grow and reproduce.

Coral bleaching occurs when the relationship between the coral host and zooxanthellae, which give coral much of their colour, breaks down. Without the zooxanthellae, the tissue of the coral animal appears transparent and the coral's bright white skeleton is revealed.

Corals begin to starve once they bleach. While some corals are able to feed themselves, most corals struggle to survive without their zooxanthellae.

If the stress persist, then the coral dies.

One poster talked about how China blow up the coral for fish. But with mass bleaching event like this, scale wise its MUCH MUCH worse than blowing up the coral. It depletes fish stocks, and basically negates all the good work that we have done in Australia in terms of fishing management, and with that severe economic repercussions.

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Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #59 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 1:05pm

lee wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 11:06am:

John_Taverner wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 8:37am:

Look what the drop in the ASX200 has done to the ANZ shares Grin Grin Grin

This proves that you have learnt nothing.

But changes in water temperature has been postulated as a cause of bleaching.

What you appear to be saying is that coral bleaching is causing temperature change.

Lee, Once again, the SOI uses two datapoints - the standardised barometric pressure in Tahiti and the standardised barometric pressure in Darwin. An El Nino is defined as sustained (eight months or more) when the SOI is -8 or below.

Probably the major feature of an El Nino is the precipitation. Temperatures are related to precipitation (and ocean currents). At the previous stage of the El Nino episode which relates to the Coral bleaching event, the probability of below average rainfall was around 50-60%.

In short, you can't say that warm conditions are caused by an El Nino because the metrics for an El Nino are just an extended index based on barometrics pressures of two points that are quite some distance from the equator. It worked well in the past, but the model is being adapted to changing conditions.

If you look at the precipitation map, it becomes obvious to most people that it's not as cut and dried as you say.

This El Nino event was not necessarily very typical either.

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