Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 2 3 4 ... 6
Send Topic Print
Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached (Read 17281 times)
longweekend58
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 45675
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #15 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 7:16am
 
lee wrote on Mar 30th, 2016 at 5:26pm:
Wow, look what El Nino, a natural event, has done to the water temperatures.

http://www.bom.gov.au/fwo/IDYOC131.+000.jpg


and the el nino is now disappearing.

why is it that the hysterics have to blame every climate event on humans?
Back to top
 

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
IP Logged
 
longweekend58
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 45675
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #16 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 7:19am
 
[quote author=Svengali link=1459306847/13#13 date=1459350908]http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/rising-acidity-in-the-ocean/

[quote]Climate change caused by rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) is now widely recognized. But the other side of the equation—the massive absorption of CO2 by the ocean—has received far less attention. The planet’s seas quickly absorb 25 to 30 percent of humankind’s CO2 emissions and about 85 percent in the long run, as water and air mix at the ocean’s surface. We have “disposed” of 530 billion tons of the gas in this way, and the rate worldwide is now one million tons per hour, faster than experienced on earth for tens of millions of years. We are acidifying the ocean and fundamentally changing its remarkably delicate geochemical balance. Scientists are only beginning to investigate the consequences, but comparable natural changes in our geologic history have caused several mass extinctions throughout the earth’s waters.
That careful balance has survived over time because of a near equilibrium among the acids emitted by volcanoes and the bases liberated by the weathering of rock. The pH of seawater has remained steady for millions of years. Before the industrial era began, the average pH at the ocean surface was about 8.2 (slightly basic; 7.0 is neutral). Today it is about 8.1.
Although the change may seem small, similar natural shifts have taken 5,000 to 10,000 years. We have done it in 50 to 80 years.
Ocean life survived the long, gradual change, but the current speed of acidification is very worrisome. Emissions could reduce surface pH by another 0.4 unit in this century alone and by as much as 0.7 unit beyond 2100. We are hurtling toward an ocean different than the earth has known for more than 25 million years.
About 89 percent of the carbon dioxide dissolved in seawater takes the form of bicarbonate ion, about 10 percent as carbonate ion, and 1 percent as dissolved gas. Modern marine life has evolved to live in this chemistry. A wide variety of organisms use carbonate ion to manufacture their skeletons: snails, urchins, clams, crabs and lobsters. And notably, it forms the calcified plates of microscopic phytoplankton that are so abundant and crucial to the entire marine food chain. Meanwhile carbon dioxide levels influence the physiology of water-breathing organisms of all kinds, which for most creatures has been optimized to operate in a narrow range of dissolved CO2 and ocean pH.
We are now carrying out an extraordinary chemical experiment on a global scale. Our fossil-fuel emissions raise the dissolved CO2 levels in the ocean, which reduces carbonate ion concentrations and lowers pH. The ocean’s sunlit surface layer (the top 100 yards or so) could easily lose 50 percent of its carbonate ion by the end of this century unless we reduce emissions dramatically. Marine animals will find it harder to build skeletons, construct reefs, or simply to grow and breathe. Compared with past geologic events, the speed and scale of this conversion is astonishing.
We therefore have a dilemma. The ocean’s absorption of CO2 helps to keep atmospheric change in check. For decades, climate scientists described the uptake as a blessing for society, and ocean chemists hoped that calcium carbonate sediments on the seafloor would dissolve in sufficient quantities to offset a drop in pH. But research has shown that the rate at which sediments dissolve cannot possibly keep pace with the far faster rate of acidification. Society can continue to depend on the ocean for help, but the cost is a rising threat to all marine life.
Although our understanding remains murky, the fossil record shows that ocean life has suffered massive extinctions during periods of rapidly rising carbon dioxide levels. Marine animals’ metabolic functions are typically tuned to narrow, internal pH ranges. In addition to reducing the calcification of skeletons, more acidic water will acidify body fluids, likely raising respiratory stress and depressing metabolism.

We would probably see the effects of ocean acidification first in animal groups that have finely tuned environmental ranges, particularly those already “living on the edge” such as coral reefs, which have already suffered widespread bleaching and death from warming ocean temperatures. Less appreciated are effects on massive communities of tiny animals that live in the ocean’s midlevels. These creatures migrate en masse to the surface layer at night to feed yet sink to deep water during the daytime to avoid predators. In so doing, they form a critical link between the warm, oxygenated surface layer and the cold, oxygen-depleted waters of the





Did scientific american just describe the Industrial Era as having taken place just in the last 50 years?  I beleive they did. Along with believing that sensitive pH measurements of the ocean 200 years ago are pinpoint accurate.

too easy.
Back to top
 

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
IP Logged
 
Sir lastnail
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 30900
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #17 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 7:44am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 7:16am:
lee wrote on Mar 30th, 2016 at 5:26pm:
Wow, look what El Nino, a natural event, has done to the water temperatures.

http://www.bom.gov.au/fwo/IDYOC131.+000.jpg


and the el nino is now disappearing.

why is it that the hysterics have to blame every climate event on humans?


because like yourself a lot of humans are selfish greedy c..ts who would stop at nothing to put more printed dollar bills in their pockets at the expense of wrecking the planet.
Back to top
« Last Edit: Mar 31st, 2016 at 10:22am by Sir lastnail »  

"If you take out Saddam, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region..." - Benjamin Netanyahu in 1995
 
IP Logged
 
aquascoot
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 37548
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #18 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:23am
 
its time for the inner city greens to turn off their air conditioners and sell their Jeep Grand Cherokees , go jump off the harbour bridge and save the environment from man made climate change
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Sir lastnail
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 30900
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #19 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:30am
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:23am:
its time for the inner city greens to turn off their air conditioners and sell their Jeep Grand Cherokees , go jump off the harbour bridge and save the environment from man made climate change


The Abos were doing quite fine before the white trash got here and screwed everything up with their hole drilling mentality. No destruction of the barrier reef when the Abos were running the show Wink
Back to top
 

"If you take out Saddam, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region..." - Benjamin Netanyahu in 1995
 
IP Logged
 
John_Taverner
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 2217
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #20 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:37am
 
lee wrote on Mar 30th, 2016 at 5:26pm:
Wow, look what El Nino, a natural event, has done to the water temperatures.


Look what the drop in the ASX200 has done to the ANZ shares  Grin Grin Grin

This proves that you have learnt nothing.
Back to top
 
72+Adelaide+Street  
IP Logged
 
lee
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 20193
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #21 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 11:06am
 
John_Taverner wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:37am:
Look what the drop in the ASX200 has done to the ANZ shares  Grin Grin Grin

This proves that you have learnt nothing.



But changes in water temperature has been postulated as a cause of bleaching.

What you appear to be saying is that coral bleaching is causing temperature change.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
lee
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 20193
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #22 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 11:08am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 7:19am:
Did scientific american just describe the Industrial Era as having taken place just in the last 50 years?  I beleive they did. Along with believing that sensitive pH measurements of the ocean 200 years ago are pinpoint accurate.

too easy.



Then of course we had so many readings taken from all over the globe, that we could precisely determine the true global mean./sarc
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
longweekend58
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 45675
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #23 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 11:29am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:30am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:23am:
its time for the inner city greens to turn off their air conditioners and sell their Jeep Grand Cherokees , go jump off the harbour bridge and save the environment from man made climate change


The Abos were doing quite fine before the white trash got here and screwed everything up with their hole drilling mentality. No destruction of the barrier reef when the Abos were running the show Wink


they were doing fine?  stone age culture with a life expectancy of 25-30.

not 'fine' at all
Back to top
 

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
IP Logged
 
longweekend58
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 45675
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #24 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 11:31am
 
lee wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 11:08am:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 7:19am:
Did scientific american just describe the Industrial Era as having taken place just in the last 50 years?  I beleive they did. Along with believing that sensitive pH measurements of the ocean 200 years ago are pinpoint accurate.

too easy.



Then of course we had so many readings taken from all over the globe, that we could precisely determine the true global mean./sarc


another good point.  and the 'increase' has been the smallest possible measurable change and yet it is somehow both significant and anthropogenic. what caused the previous acidification incidents?
Back to top
 

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
IP Logged
 
Svengali
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Please don't thank me

Posts: 3474
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #25 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 4:13pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 11:29am:
they were doing fine?  stone age culture with a life expectancy of 25-30.


Life expectancy at that time kept nature in balance. Now it is out of balance with overpopulation, deforestation, overgrazing and large holes everywhere.
Back to top
 

We first fought the heathens in the name of religion, then Communism, and now in the name of drugs and terrorism. Our excuses for global domination always change.
Serj Tankian
 
IP Logged
 
Mr Hammer
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 25212
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #26 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 4:30pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 4:13pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 11:29am:
they were doing fine?  stone age culture with a life expectancy of 25-30.


Life expectancy at that time kept nature in balance. Now it is out of balance with overpopulation, deforestation, overgrazing and large holes everywhere.

Like all your crappy Asian cesspools?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Sir lastnail
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 30900
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #27 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 6:05pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 11:29am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:30am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:23am:
its time for the inner city greens to turn off their air conditioners and sell their Jeep Grand Cherokees , go jump off the harbour bridge and save the environment from man made climate change


The Abos were doing quite fine before the white trash got here and screwed everything up with their hole drilling mentality. No destruction of the barrier reef when the Abos were running the show Wink


they were doing fine?  stone age culture with a life expectancy of 25-30.

not 'fine' at all


but they lasted 50,000 years whilst leaving the environment in pristine condition. We will be lucky to last another 100 years with our paper money and fake oil economies Sad
Back to top
« Last Edit: Mar 31st, 2016 at 6:18pm by Sir lastnail »  

"If you take out Saddam, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region..." - Benjamin Netanyahu in 1995
 
IP Logged
 
Mr Hammer
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 25212
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #28 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 6:15pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 6:05pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 11:29am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:30am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:23am:
its time for the inner city greens to turn off their air conditioners and sell their Jeep Grand Cherokees , go jump off the harbour bridge and save the environment from man made climate change


The Abos were doing quite fine before the white trash got here and screwed everything up with their hole drilling mentality. No destruction of the barrier reef when the Abos were running the show Wink


they were doing fine?  stone age culture with a life expectancy of 25-30.

not 'fine' at all


but they lasted 50,000 years whilst leaving the environment in pristine condition. We will be lucky to last another 100 years with our paper money and fake economies Sad
Actually the aborigines made quite a few animals extinct and burnt the land so much that it's still not the same. Human beings leave a mark on the land no matter where they go. I will grant you that the whiteman has done some real damage to the land but we must remember that the system feeds us and we owe it more than we think.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Sir lastnail
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 30900
Gender: male
Re: Great Barrier Reef Northern section 95% bleached
Reply #29 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 6:31pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 6:15pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 6:05pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 11:29am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:30am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:23am:
its time for the inner city greens to turn off their air conditioners and sell their Jeep Grand Cherokees , go jump off the harbour bridge and save the environment from man made climate change


The Abos were doing quite fine before the white trash got here and screwed everything up with their hole drilling mentality. No destruction of the barrier reef when the Abos were running the show Wink


they were doing fine?  stone age culture with a life expectancy of 25-30.

not 'fine' at all


but they lasted 50,000 years whilst leaving the environment in pristine condition. We will be lucky to last another 100 years with our paper money and fake economies Sad
Actually the aborigines made quite a few animals extinct and burnt the land so much that it's still not the same. Human beings leave a mark on the land no matter where they go. I will grant you that the whiteman has done some real damage to the land but we must remember that the system feeds us and we owe it more than we think.


the abos have done f.ckall damage to the land in 50,000 years compared to the wholesale clearance by the whites in 200 years. Your comparison is absurd.
Back to top
 

"If you take out Saddam, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region..." - Benjamin Netanyahu in 1995
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 4 ... 6
Send Topic Print