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Mar 29th, 2016 at 1:57pm
 
Too little too late from a Govt who will get trounced out of power.

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-germany-wants-refugees-to-integrate-or-lose-res...
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Reply #1 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 2:06pm
 
GordyL wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 1:57pm:
Too little too late from a Govt who will get trounced out of power.

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-germany-wants-refugees-to-integrate-or-lose-res...


Integration is not enough. Integration simple means attending the workplace like every one else.

It's assimilation that is required to bring Muslims into the mainstream. First cab off the rank is to strip their women of all that 7th century clobber that announces to the world that since birth they have been reserved only for members of their own exclusive tribe of Mohammedans.

Off comes the hijab - off comes the niqad - off comes the burqa - and no more petitioning for special treatment and special concessions because of their religious sensitivities.

Either THAT - or Go Home.
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Reply #2 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 3:03pm
 
I notice none of this is attributed to Merkel
Has she been told to stay in her office?

But this is puerile stuff isn't it. First & foremost, Muslims dont integrate. They bide their time till they have established enclaves,  little caliphates where police don't go. They don't allow integration of women. They do draw stupid  young western women under their control and immure them behind a wall of black.
As for learning German, you've seen the sex education illustrations, now read the phrase book.
"Take your clothes off, we are all going to have sex with you" and other useful phrases for the integrated Germany.
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Reply #3 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 3:29pm
 
It is interesting that Merkel has been back pedaling recently. First she pays the Turks to take back people trying to get into Greece and Eastern Europe. (A complete reversal of policy.) Now this demand for integration, after branding her critics Nazi's. She must think they have short memories. I suppose in German politics, Nazi is catch-all for people you don't agree with.

This new policy is hollow. For a start, learning German may help people living there, but is not a real issue. The issue is people bringing their superstition and vendettas with them. In the main, that is a religion which demands the subversion of other authorities and cultures by any means. This policy is unlikely to address anything other than political appearances.
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Reply #4 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 5:21pm
 
The scheme is an attempt at damage control that will never work. The worst of these Muslims will simply disappear into already established ghettoes where German is hardly ever spoken.
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Reply #5 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 6:19pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 5:21pm:
The scheme is an attempt at damage control that will never work. The worst of these Muslims will simply disappear into already established ghettoes where German is hardly ever spoken.


I agree. Political spin for self preservation.
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Reply #6 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 6:54pm
 
It would be good to know where in the west Muslims integrated themselves?.

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capitosinora wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 6:54pm:
It would be good to know where in the west Muslims integrated themselves?.


What?? You don't know?!?!!

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Reply #8 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:17pm
 
from the article:

BERLIN (Reuters) - German Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said he is planning a new law that will require refugees to learn German and integrate into society, or else lose their permanent right of residence.

The initiative comes after voters punished Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives in regional elections earlier this month, giving a thumbs-down to her open-door refugee policy and turning in droves to the anti-immigrant party Alternative for Germany (AfD).

Around one million migrants arrived in Germany last year — many fleeing conflict and economic hardship in the Middle East and Africa — and de Maiziere said around 100,000 more had arrived so far this year.

Germany expected that in return for language lessons, social benefits and housing, the new arrivals made an effort to integrate, he told ARD television.

"For those who refuse to learn German, for those who refuse to allow their relatives to integrate — for instance women or girls — for those who reject job offers: for them, there cannot be an unlimited settlement permit after three years," he said.

De Maiziere, who belongs to Merkel's conservatives party, added that he wanted "a link between successful integration and the permission for how long one is allowed to stay in Germany."

Vice Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel welcomed the draft law, which is planned for May.

"We must not only support integration but demand it," Gabriel told mass-selling daily Bild.

Gabriel's Social Democrats, the junior partner in Germany's ruling coalition with Merkel's conservatives, also suffered losses in this month's elections in three German states.
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Reply #9 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:18pm
 
Not all muslims are muslim.
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Reply #10 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:45pm
 
innocentbystander. wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:18pm:
Not all muslims are muslim.

Not all Christians are Christians ?

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Reply #12 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 8:16pm
 
capitosinora wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 6:54pm:
It would be good to know where in the west Muslims integrated themselves?.



I think there ARE Muslims who have assimilated quite well into the mainstream, but it depends on them - just as it does with the rest of us - to secularise themselves when they are out and about in the mainstream community.

The first barrier to assimilation and full acceptance by the general public are those hijabs, niqabs, and burqas. All that clobber should have been left at Customs when they chose to migrate to a Western country.

They are fully aware that these sartorial affectations are an announcement to the host society that they are not willing to compromise their Islamic cultural habits in order to better fit into secular Western society. These pieces of clothing are an act of defiance and rejection of the host culture in which 99% of the public do not wear their religion or their politics on their sleeve.





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Reply #13 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 8:21pm
 
miketrees wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 7:57pm:



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That's really cheered me up, Mike! Thanks for that. I think.
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Reply #14 - Mar 29th, 2016 at 8:33pm
 
Herb,, it had a slight echo from decades ago that is still relevant today.

Please dont tell me I made an old Man happy, because that would just sound all wrong
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