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Re: Imam Maulana Habib Ur Rehman
Reply #195 - Apr 16^th, 2016 at 9:19am

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 8:31am:

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Yes. But he never said anything to the media that actually contradicted the beliefs he expressed about Islam. A good follow-up question would have been something like "yes Imam, but do you stand by your statement that this man was a "true muslim"? - don't you think?

You know me Gandalf, I don't like to hassle people with too many follow-up questions.

Exactly. Sometimes a question is just a question.

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Reply #196 - Apr 16^th, 2016 at 6:36pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

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Do you think Imam Rehman is ideologically opposed to the death penalty?

probably not.

So he was more than likely lying in the one-line extract I provided for you?

Would you describe your posts here as a misrepresentation of his misrepresentation of his views on Islam, or were you merely deflecting?

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Reply #197 - Apr 16^th, 2016 at 6:54pm

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 9:05am:

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Do you think Imam Rehman is ideologically opposed to the death penalty?

probably not.

FD, are you ideologically opposed to porkies?

Is the 2007 FD a misrepresentation of your misrepresentation of your views on Freeeeedom, or are you merely evading?

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Reply #198 - Apr 23^rd, 2016 at 10:11am

the then mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, invited the Egyptian Muslim preacher Yusuf al Qaradawi to the capital for a spot of congenial dialogue, presumably at the taxpayer’s expense. Many people objected, calling Qaradawi an extremist who should not be allowed to set foot in the country. No, no, said the Muslims, and Ken: Yusuf’s definitely a moderate.

Well, let’s see. This is a man who supports the execution of apostates, the murder of Israeli civilians, whipping homosexuals, genital mutilation and unconditional support for the terrorists Hezbollah, and who thinks that women who have been raped must prove they are of good conduct before anyone takes them seriously. And yet, in the wider context of the Muslim world, Ken was right — Yusuf is a moderate. For example, he believes that while uppity women should indeed be beaten by their husbands, this should occur only as a last resort and the husband should not use a stick. This makes old Yusuf a sort of Menzies Campbell of Islam — well towards the liberal wing of the ideology. There’s also his leniency towards homosexuals — lash the buggers by all means, but don’t push them off roofs. The term ‘extremist’ and ‘moderate’ serve only to re-inforce our collective delusions. They make no sense. They lead to the kind of problems we are now seeing with our state-sponsored Muslim chaplains, as they wander from cell to cell disseminating hatred or idiocies.

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Reply #199 - Apr 23^rd, 2016 at 10:11am

The religious leader at Scotland's biggest mosque has praised an extremist who was executed for committing murder in Pakistan, the BBC can reveal.
Imam Maulana Habib Ur Rehman of Glasgow Central Mosque used the messaging platform WhatsApp to show his support for Mumtaz Qadri.
Qadri was hanged in February after murdering a local politician who opposed strict blasphemy laws.
In a statement the imam said the messages had been taken out of context.
He said that he was expressing his opposition to capital punishment.
In messages seen by the BBC, Imam Maulana Habib Ur Rehman says that he is "disturbed" and "upset" at the news of Qadri's execution, before writing "rahmatullahi alai", a religious blessing usually given to devout Muslims and meaning may God's mercy be upon him.
In another, he says: "I cannot hide my pain today. A true Muslim was punished for doing which [sic] the collective will of the nation failed to carry out."
Maulana Habib Ur Rehman is the most senior imam at Glasgow Central Mosque, a role which involves leading prayers and giving religious guidance and teachings.
The BBC has confirmed with members of the group that the messages come from the imam.
Qadri was employed as a bodyguard for the governor of Punjab province in Pakistan, Salman Taseer, before turning on him in 2011 and shooting him 28 times.
After the shooting Qadri reportedly told journalists that he was "proud" and that he had killed a "blasphemer".
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-35893123

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