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Suu Kyi of Burma loses her halo of righteousness
Mar 25^th, 2016 at 8:04pm

Big surprise.

She's been a daaarling of the Left for ages now, but here she is blotting her copy-book with anti-Muslim 'racism'.

Nobel Prize winner too.

"Moment Burma heroine lost her cool with Today show's Mishal: Suu Kyi's anger that 'no-one told me I was going to be interviewed by a Muslim' after heated questioning on the BBC".

Apparently it's not just Donald Trump who has lost patience with the Muslim Problem.

"When she was repeatedly asked by Husain to condemn anti-Islamic sentiment and the wave of mob-led massacres of Muslims in Myanmar, she declined to do so. ‘I think there are many, many Buddhists who have also left the country for various reasons,’ she replied. ‘This is a result of our sufferings under a dictatorial regime.’

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Reply #1 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 10:03pm

Its rather simple: a politician in Burma will get absolutely nowhere if they are seen in any way to be standing up to the rampant racist muslim bashing in that country.

Suu Kyi's hypocricy on the Rohingya question has been common knowledge for a long time for those of us who have been paying attention.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #2 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 8:29am

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 25^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Its rather simple: a politician in Burma will get absolutely nowhere if they are seen in any way to be standing up to the rampant racist muslim bashing in that country.

My computer crashed while answering this post of yours. Priceless prose was lost to history because my computer is a rats nest of untamed crappy electronics that should be shot like a den of feral cats.

And so a very abridged version of my post follows:

Shame on you for using the 'Race Card' whilst knowing full well that religion is not even remotely tied to racial background. You hoped to slip this deceitful sleight-of-hand into the equation as a winner-takes-all throw of the moral dice.

With the exception of a few members here, we are otherwise not children or idíots to be so easily sucked in by such cheap chicanery.

In future don't insult your audience with such loose-and-fast buffoonery..

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 25^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Suu Kyi's hypocricy on the Rohingya question has been common knowledge for a long time for those of us who have been paying attention.

Well pardon meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ... Sheik El-bin Gandalfi, sir.

The Leftwing media has for years presented her in the same light as the deified Dalai Lama, Nelson Mandela, and Martin Luther King.

The grovelling by such as Liz Hayes of 60 Minutes and the various interviewers of the ABC has been sickening to watch.

There's nothing hypocritical about a national leader who recognises that a highly political Muslim minority is a recipe for eventual national suicide as a nation otherwise at peace with itself.

Trump recognises this too, and so did Abbott at the 'Margaret Thatcher Memorial Address' in London.

The 4% Muslim demographic in Burma is way too much to be complacent about if national unity and social harmony for the future is on your agenda.

Let's listen to someone speaking on this very same theme again, shall we ...

(And please, Gandalf, no more cheap shots about 'rampant racism' and suchlike hysteria, okay? Have a little more respect for your audience. Thanks in advance). Cool

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Re: Suu Kyi of Burma loses her halo of righteousness
Reply #3 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 10:33am

PROPOSITION;

I think that it can clearly be argued, that gandalf is a RACIST. !!!!!

And that gandalf is a person who defends, and 'WINKS AT', the religious bigotry and religious violence which is encouraged by mainstream ISLAM.

Above, i say that it can be argued, that gandalf is a racist.

But, but, .....to which 'race' of people does gandalf belong ???

I don't know. !!!!!

But we can all see, that gandalf is definitely defending a 'race' of people here, isn't he, .....i.e. the moslem race of people ???

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polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 25^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Its rather simple: a politician in Burma will get absolutely nowhere if they are seen in any way to be standing up to the rampant racist muslim bashing in that country.

Yadda said......

".....the religious bigotry and religious violence encouraged by mainstream ISLAM."

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THE KORAN....

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22

"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them."
Koran 3.28

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

QUESTION;

Will gandalf 'come out', and condemn the religious bigotry and the religious violence which is clearly being encouraged within mainstream ISLAM, in the holy Koran ???

[silly, silly Yaddda! .....for asking for such a public declaration, from a devout moslem]

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Suu Kyi of Burma loses her halo of righteousness Reply #4 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 12:36pm Yadda! Have you thought of becoming a Sunday-Afternoon-in-the-Park Soap Box preacher?! I'll come and hand out the pamphlets for you!
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Suu Kyi of Burma loses her halo of righteousness Reply #5 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 2:27pm Muslims in Burma consist of the racial group called Rohingya. In the case of Burma, the "muslim" issue has everything to do with race and racism.
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Reply #6 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 2:42pm

Yet muslims still aren't a race.

In any case the Rohingya were known as insurgents in the area, who have been fighting for an independent Islamic state in the region for around three decades.

There are no surprises no one liked the muslims doing the old intelligent Islamic state buffoonery. As no one likes them dragging their shyte and destruction around today into their countries.

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matty = muslim with a mat collection, invented by the intellectual giants with an IQ of 81 or below. Yeah its such a gotcha , I know. Roll Eyes

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Reply #7 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 2:51pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

Muslims in Burma consist of the racial group called Rohingya.

In the case of Burma, the "muslim" issue has everything to do with race and racism.

Absolutely nothing to do with it - but by conflating the two it gives moral weight to those who start squawking about 'racism' when in fact the issue is entirely about religion.

Nice try but no cigar.

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Reply #8 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 2:55pm

In previous decades the Rohingya fought the Burmese authorities to have the Rakhine state ceceded to Bangladesh. Whats interesting is that today the usual suspects argue that the Rohingya should be swallowed up by Bangladesh - which is exactly the same thing.

The issue is not the usual hysteria about dastardly muslims out to create their own Islamic state - the issue is that the Rohingya are denied citizenship. They are denied the right to citizenship in the country they now reside, and they are also denied the chance to join the muslim state people like you (though not necessarily you in particular) are always demanding they join.

Given this is their predicament, what do you suggest they do? Continue languishing as stateless and right-less non-citizens? Do you think thats a reasonable thing to expect of them?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Sir James Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 633 Gender:	Re: Suu Kyi of Burma loses her halo of righteousness Reply #9 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 2:59pm Lol the issue is NOT what you say it is to suite your own agenda.
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Reply #10 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 3:03pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 2:51pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

Muslims in Burma consist of the racial group called Rohingya.

In the case of Burma, the "muslim" issue has everything to do with race and racism.

Absolutely nothing to do with it - but by conflating the two it gives moral weight to those who start squawking about 'racism' when in fact the issue is entirely about religion.

Nice try but no cigar.

Precisely.

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Reply #11 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 3:21pm

Sir James wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 2:51pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

Muslims in Burma consist of the racial group called Rohingya.

In the case of Burma, the "muslim" issue has everything to do with race and racism.

Absolutely nothing to do with it - but by conflating the two it gives moral weight to those who start squawking about 'racism' when in fact the issue is entirely about religion.

Nice try but no cigar.

Precisely.

A chocolate Easter Egg, maybe - but no Commemorative Obama Visit cigars this time.

Gandalf knows the truth of the matter just as well as I do, but just as with the Free Masons and the Mormons he is obliged to defend Islam and Muslims at all cost no matter how far his efforts will take him from what he knows to be the actual truth.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Suu Kyi of Burma loses her halo of righteousness Reply #12 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 3:41pm Ok feel free either of you to explain to me what IS the issue, if its not a group of people being denied their basic human rights (ie citizenship)
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Reply #13 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 5:35pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 26^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

Muslims in Burma consist of the racial group called Rohingya.

In the case of Burma, the "muslim" issue has everything to do with race and racism.

gandalf,

I think that i have exposed [in post #3], the fact that the Rohingya [i.e. moslems, and followers of ISLAM], are a vector for the institutionalised religious bigotry and and religious violence, which is encouraged by mainstream ISLAM.

The institutionalised religious bigotry and and religious violence, which is spread by moslems, wherever moslem communities get a foothold!!! ------------ >

e.g.

IMAGE....

"Behead those who insult ISLAM"

Islamic Protest - IN AUSTRALIA - on the streets of Sydney from Hyde Park to George Streets, September 15, 2012.

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This person is a religious bigot, AND, a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac.

Dictionary;
vector = =
1 a quantity having direction as well as magnitude, especially as determining the position of one point in space relative to another.
2 an organism that transmits a particular disease or parasite from one animal or plant to another.       a bacteriophage or plasmid which transfers genetic material into a cell.
3 a course to be taken by an aircraft.

But rather than acknowledge that fact, you choose, to rather falsely label people as racists, if they oppose giving the Rohingya [i.e. moslems, and followers of ISLAM], the rights of citizens in Myanmar/Burma.       !!!!!!!!!

Obliviously not the people of Myanmar/Burma, nor anyone with any commonsense, want a moslem community, as a part of their national 'makeup' !

That determination is not a based upon RACISM, or what race the Rohingya belong to.

It is based upon a determination by the people of Myanmar/Burma, to try to keep a community of latent, wanna-be homicidal maniacs, out of their own country.    !!!!!!

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CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0
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Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers'].

.....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
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"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda

QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

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Reply #14 - Mar 26^th, 2016 at 5:43pm

gandalf,

Why won't you acknowledge that mainstream ISLAM encourages and promotes religious bigotry and religious violence, which is cited, within ISLAM's primary religious text, the Koran ??

Why won't you denounce that open religious bigotry and religious violence which is directed at every person who rejects ISLAM, .....and which is cited, within ISLAM's primary religious text ??

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THE KORAN....

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22

"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them."
Koran 3.28

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

QUESTION;

Will gandalf 'come out', and condemn the religious bigotry and the religious violence which is clearly being encouraged within mainstream ISLAM, in the holy Koran ???

[silly, silly Yaddda! .....for asking for such a public declaration, from a devout moslem]

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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