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Sir Crook Ex Member	Re: Is it really going to be 3 months? Reply #15 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:12pm Thank heavens for the good people in the senate.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Is it really going to be 3 months? Reply #16 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:29pm Don't you want a DD crookie? A good clear out is always good for the system.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Is it really going to be 3 months? Reply #17 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:48pm bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:29pm: Don't you want a DD crookie? A good clear out is always good for the system. he wouldnt want that hes hooked on a UNION system so outdated the only way they can get membership is to THREATEN people...
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Reply #18 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:49pm

cods wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:29pm:

Don't you want a DD crookie?

A good clear out is always good for the system.

he wouldnt want that hes hooked on a UNION system so outdated the only way they can get membership is to THREATEN people...

And shes off and racing glug glug glug

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 28513 Gender:	Re: Is it really going to be 3 months? Reply #19 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 3:56pm bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:29pm: Don't you want a DD crookie? A good clear out is always good for the system. Yep, this DD will be good for us all. It'll be like flushing out the colon of Australian politics, getting rid of sh!t that sticks for too long.
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Reply #20 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 3:58pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 3:56pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:29pm:

Don't you want a DD crookie?

A good clear out is always good for the system.

Yep, this DD will be good for us all. It'll be like flushing out the colon of Australian politics, getting rid of sh!t that sticks for too long.

Yes it sure is time to flush the Libtards once and for all thus ending this exercise in futility .

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Reply #21 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 4:05pm

cods wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:29pm:

Don't you want a DD crookie?

A good clear out is always good for the system.

he wouldnt want that hes hooked on a UNION system so outdated the only way they can get membership is to THREATEN people...

have you switched from alcohol to drugs?

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Is it really going to be 3 months?
Reply #22 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 12:59am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 1:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:52pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

It will be unless the Senate passes the ABCC legislation in April and the belligerent Senators Muir, Lambie, etc have said they won't vote for it despite the government having a mandate to establish the ABCC from the previous election.

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Abbott campaigned on it. And don't call me bro.

He didn't have a mandate, bro.

Labor suffers its worst ever electoral defeat and he doesn't have a mandate? You're delusional.

Wonder why it is called "worst"? The worst defeat would be something like the Qld lib win which this government didn't achieve similar results?

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Reply #23 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 7:41am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

It will be unless the Senate passes the ABCC legislation in April and the belligerent Senators Muir, Lambie, etc have said they won't vote for it despite the government having a mandate to establish the ABCC from the previous election.

Show us this 'mandate'... if such a thing existed (and it does not with any government, since they are subject to the will of the people and are not simply unconstrained despots)... why then was there this farce of a Royal Commission to try to build up some groundswell of demand for an imposed tyranny over Unions and especially the building industry?

Could this have anything to do with the funding from the Flying Grollo Brothers and so forth that the Libs receive? Could this simply have a part in the endless hatred of the 'right' here for those 'leftie' Unions and as such be part of a 'class warfare'?

Even if the government feels it has some mythical mandate... it is the right and duty of the Senate and of individual Senators to say NO.

I thought the central idea of representative democracy was thet we elected people to vote the way WE want? So if a government has a mandate for a particular policy, where is the democratic principle that say senators should ignore it? and then when the other mob is in power and their policies are all blocked - because they can - is that good or bad?

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #24 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 7:44am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:10pm:

What was his mandate?

A "Mandate" applies to a specific policy that has been campaigned on sidelining all others.

So what was it bro?

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mandate
noun
ˈmandeɪt/
1.
an official order or commission to do something.
"a mandate to seek the release of political prisoners"
synonyms: instruction, directive, direction, decree, command, order, injunction, edict, charge, commission, bidding, warrant, ruling, ordinance, law, statute, fiat; More
2.
the authority to carry out a policy, regarded as given by the electorate to a party or candidate that wins an election.
"he called an election to seek a mandate for his policies"
synonyms: authority, approval, acceptance, ratification, endorsement; More
verb
manˈdeɪt/
1.
give (someone) authority to act in a certain way.
"the rightful king was mandated and sanctioned by God"
2.
historical
(of territory) be assigned to (another power) under a mandate of the League of Nations.
"mandated territories"

but when a labor govt has legislation rejected, you all cry 'mandate'

it is like hypocrisy-central in here.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #25 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 7:47am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

It will be unless the Senate passes the ABCC legislation in April and the belligerent Senators Muir, Lambie, etc have said they won't vote for it despite the government having a mandate to establish the ABCC from the previous election.

Tony having lunch with Christopher is not the right type of man date.

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Reply #26 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 7:49am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:10pm:

What was his mandate?

A "Mandate" applies to a specific policy that has been campaigned on sidelining all others.

So what was it bro?

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mandate
noun
ˈmandeɪt/
1.
an official order or commission to do something.
"a mandate to seek the release of political prisoners"
synonyms: instruction, directive, direction, decree, command, order, injunction, edict, charge, commission, bidding, warrant, ruling, ordinance, law, statute, fiat; More
2.
the authority to carry out a policy, regarded as given by the electorate to a party or candidate that wins an election.
"he called an election to seek a mandate for his policies"
synonyms: authority, approval, acceptance, ratification, endorsement; More
verb
manˈdeɪt/
1.
give (someone) authority to act in a certain way.
"the rightful king was mandated and sanctioned by God"
2.
historical
(of territory) be assigned to (another power) under a mandate of the League of Nations.
"mandated territories"

but when a labor govt has legislation rejected, you all cry 'mandate'

it is like hypocrisy-central in here.

No much of it was knocked back , its called negotiating , unlike the Libs who Ms Lambie said their policy has more holes in it than a target at a shooting range Grin

, oh we know Ms Lambie , we certainly do.

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Reply #27 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 8:02am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:10pm:

What was his mandate?

A "Mandate" applies to a specific policy that has been campaigned on sidelining all others.

So what was it bro?

Quote:

mandate
noun
ˈmandeɪt/
1.
an official order or commission to do something.
"a mandate to seek the release of political prisoners"
synonyms: instruction, directive, direction, decree, command, order, injunction, edict, charge, commission, bidding, warrant, ruling, ordinance, law, statute, fiat; More
2.
the authority to carry out a policy, regarded as given by the electorate to a party or candidate that wins an election.
"he called an election to seek a mandate for his policies"
synonyms: authority, approval, acceptance, ratification, endorsement; More
verb
manˈdeɪt/
1.
give (someone) authority to act in a certain way.
"the rightful king was mandated and sanctioned by God"
2.
historical
(of territory) be assigned to (another power) under a mandate of the League of Nations.
"mandated territories"

but when a labor govt has legislation rejected, you all cry 'mandate'

it is like hypocrisy-central in here.

Mandate has become a difficult topic for me as it seems to conflict on so many levels.

If you accept that there is a mandate I would think that it applies to the major ticket items, I doubt anyone specifically voted for the coalition because of this policy. I don't think you can determine that all the bits and pieces wrapped up in policy fine print is mandated.

Then you have the situation where Labor and virtually all its supporters would have voted strongly against this policy, it is very much hated by thinking people or anyone who believes in any level of fairness or a sense of what is reasonable.

Thirdly you have the senate bound to reject poor policy and this definitely qualifies.

Ask the question does a policy mandate supposedly outweigh the senates responsibility to function as it is meant to ?

This governments problem with the senate stems largely with its propensity to produce poor policy. They by and large left the senate with no other option.

It is a fact that the ABCC produced no benefit while presiding over a drastically reduced health and safety record in the building industry, people died because of it.

Make no mistake this isn't bad policy it is atrocious policy that well and truly deserves to be blocked.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61276 Here Gender:	Re: Is it really going to be 3 months? Reply #28 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 8:03am Is it really going to be 3 months? I doubt it.
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Reply #29 - Mar 25^th, 2016 at 8:07am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

It will be unless the Senate passes the ABCC legislation in April and the belligerent Senators Muir, Lambie, etc have said they won't vote for it despite the government having a mandate to establish the ABCC from the previous election.

No concern that one of Turnbull's first commitments as PM was that the government would go full term ?

Are honesty and integrity standards you only like to apply to Labor?

The last three Liberals PM's have clearly shown no regard for either.

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