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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Is it really going to be 3 months? Mar 24^th, 2016 at 11:56am I have to confess I've not been paying a lot of attention to Australian politics but out of the corner of my eye I've been seeing references to a 3 month election campaign. Is this really true? Is an election decided definitely and is it going to be a DD? Or is it all contingent still?
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 28509 Gender:	Re: Is it really going to be 3 months? Reply #1 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:10pm It will be unless the Senate passes the ABCC legislation in April and the belligerent Senators Muir, Lambie, etc have said they won't vote for it despite the government having a mandate to establish the ABCC from the previous election.
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Re: Is it really going to be 3 months?
Reply #2 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:15pm

"Parliament will sit for three weeks from April 18. It will consider the Australian Building and Construction Commission and Registered Organisations bills, both of which have already been rejected by the Senate.

"Turnbull said if the Senate does not pass the two bills he will advise the Governor-General to call a double dissolution election on July 2. He said there will be no double dissolution if the bills are passed."

http://australianpolitics.com/2016/03/21/turnbull-recalls-parliament-threatens-t...

They're pretty much in election campaign mode now (just in case the DD goes ahead).

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Re: Is it really going to be 3 months?
Reply #3 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:16pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

It will be unless the Senate passes the ABCC legislation in April and the belligerent Senators Muir, Lambie, etc have said they won't vote for it despite the government having a mandate to establish the ABCC from the previous election.

Show us this 'mandate'... if such a thing existed (and it does not with any government, since they are subject to the will of the people and are not simply unconstrained despots)... why then was there this farce of a Royal Commission to try to build up some groundswell of demand for an imposed tyranny over Unions and especially the building industry?

Could this have anything to do with the funding from the Flying Grollo Brothers and so forth that the Libs receive? Could this simply have a part in the endless hatred of the 'right' here for those 'leftie' Unions and as such be part of a 'class warfare'?

Even if the government feels it has some mythical mandate... it is the right and duty of the Senate and of individual Senators to say NO.

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 23002 ACT Gender:	Re: Is it really going to be 3 months? Reply #4 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:18pm Could be worse Bogie, thank god we dont live in USA
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 150615 Gender:	Re: Is it really going to be 3 months? Reply #5 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:28pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:10pm: It will be unless the Senate passes the ABCC legislation in April and the belligerent Senators Muir, Lambie, etc have said they won't vote for it despite the government having a mandate to establish the ABCC from the previous election.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Is it really going to be 3 months? Reply #6 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:35pm Going to be 3 months of hell watching victory slip away for the rightards
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Reply #7 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

It will be unless the Senate passes the ABCC legislation in April and the belligerent Senators Muir, Lambie, etc have said they won't vote for it despite the government having a mandate to establish the ABCC from the previous election.

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee445/tariksimsek1/you-mad-bro.jpg

Abbott campaigned on it. And don't call me bro.

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Reply #8 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:46pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

It will be unless the Senate passes the ABCC legislation in April and the belligerent Senators Muir, Lambie, etc have said they won't vote for it despite the government having a mandate to establish the ABCC from the previous election.

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee445/tariksimsek1/you-mad-bro.jpg

Abbott campaigned on it. And don't call me bro.

Worked out who the PM was in may 2013 yet bro ?

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 28509 Gender:	Re: Is it really going to be 3 months? Reply #9 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:48pm Its time wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:35pm: Going to be 3 months of hell joy watching victory slip away for the rightards leftards
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Re: Is it really going to be 3 months?
Reply #10 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:52pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

It will be unless the Senate passes the ABCC legislation in April and the belligerent Senators Muir, Lambie, etc have said they won't vote for it despite the government having a mandate to establish the ABCC from the previous election.

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee445/tariksimsek1/you-mad-bro.jpg

Abbott campaigned on it. And don't call me bro.

He didn't have a mandate, bro.

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Reply #11 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:52pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

It will be unless the Senate passes the ABCC legislation in April and the belligerent Senators Muir, Lambie, etc have said they won't vote for it despite the government having a mandate to establish the ABCC from the previous election.

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee445/tariksimsek1/you-mad-bro.jpg

Abbott campaigned on it. And don't call me bro.

He didn't have a mandate, bro.

Correct , the bro is incorrect , again.

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Reply #12 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 1:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:52pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

It will be unless the Senate passes the ABCC legislation in April and the belligerent Senators Muir, Lambie, etc have said they won't vote for it despite the government having a mandate to establish the ABCC from the previous election.

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee445/tariksimsek1/you-mad-bro.jpg

Abbott campaigned on it. And don't call me bro.

He didn't have a mandate, bro.

Labor suffers its worst ever electoral defeat and he doesn't have a mandate? You're delusional.

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Re: Is it really going to be 3 months?
Reply #13 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 1:15pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 1:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:52pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 24^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

It will be unless the Senate passes the ABCC legislation in April and the belligerent Senators Muir, Lambie, etc have said they won't vote for it despite the government having a mandate to establish the ABCC from the previous election.

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee445/tariksimsek1/you-mad-bro.jpg

Abbott campaigned on it. And don't call me bro.

He didn't have a mandate, bro.

Labor suffers its worst ever electoral defeat and he doesn't have a mandate? You're delusional.

He didn't have a mandate to establish the ABCC, bro.

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Re: Is it really going to be 3 months?
Reply #14 - Mar 24^th, 2016 at 2:10pm

What was his mandate?

A "Mandate" applies to a specific policy that has been campaigned on sidelining all others.

So what was it bro?

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mandate
noun
ˈmandeɪt/
1.
an official order or commission to do something.
"a mandate to seek the release of political prisoners"
synonyms: instruction, directive, direction, decree, command, order, injunction, edict, charge, commission, bidding, warrant, ruling, ordinance, law, statute, fiat; More
2.
the authority to carry out a policy, regarded as given by the electorate to a party or candidate that wins an election.
"he called an election to seek a mandate for his policies"
synonyms: authority, approval, acceptance, ratification, endorsement; More
verb
manˈdeɪt/
1.
give (someone) authority to act in a certain way.
"the rightful king was mandated and sanctioned by God"
2.
historical
(of territory) be assigned to (another power) under a mandate of the League of Nations.
"mandated territories"

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