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If ALEC is illegal
Mar 22nd, 2016 at 1:00pm
 
ALEC - (American Legislative Exchange Council)

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The corporations, both ALEC members, took a seat at the legislative drafting table beside elected officials and policy analysts by paying a fee between $3,000 and $10,000, according to documents obtained by Bloomberg News.

The opportunity for corporations to become co-authors of state laws legally through ALEC covers a wide range of issues from energy to taxes to agriculture.'

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-07-21/koch-exxon-mobil-among-corpora...'

Chimp-_logic wrote - '



Actually in the US its unconstitutional

But a Corporate tyranny that has displaced what little democracy there was in the USA can do as it pleases.

As recent as 2010, the US supreme court ruled by a marginal 5/4 vote that Corporations are in indeed persons and should be afforded the same same constitutional protections as ordinary US citizens.

US supreme court - judges appointed by the corporately owned Political system.'

Now in the news -

'The Energy & Environmental Legal Institute (E&E Legal) is extremely disappointed that the DC Circuit three judge panel refused to consider whether the EPA was improperly influenced by so called ‘green’ groups when the agency put forth the Clean Power Plan (CPP) that intended to “bankrupt” coal power plants and eliminate coal miners jobs throughout the country. We have painstakingly gathered evidence of improper ex parte contact between these outside groups and key EPA employees while the rule was being drafted, yet the Court has decided not to look at it in this case. The ex parte contact was extreme and included meetings at coffee shops across the street from EPA, extensive use of private e-mail servers by agency officials, and the ‘green groups’ clear involvement in the drafting and editing of the CPP.'

http://eelegal.org/2016/03/21/ee-legals-statement-re-d-c-circuit-decision-to-den...

I guess because it is government and "green groups", which are themselves big business, it makes it ok.
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Reply #1 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 2:13pm
 
Good, hope ALEC gets disbanded soon.
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Reply #2 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 3:36pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 2:13pm:
Good, hope ALEC gets disbanded soon.



but "Big Green" and the EPA are not part of ALEC. There is no formal instrument.

So if it should be illegal for members of ALEC to play a part in drafting legislation, should it be illegal for "green groups" to be involved in drafting the Clean Power Plan?
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Reply #3 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 4:02pm
 
Don’t care. It would be good if ALEC can be disbanded.
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Reply #4 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 5:03pm
 
The Greens are a real cancer to humanity.

They have been writing the laws on environment for quite a while now and have even taken to writing school curriculums like safe school programs teaching transgender children are normal.

I just cant understand how they have become so influential about all these topics.

The only thing I can put it down to is that the oligarchy are using the environmental movement to implement their hidden agenda of a world government, once they do it for the environment who's to say they will stop there.

Agenda 21 the green movement taking over the world through the environmental movement.



Some are trying to expose them.




 
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Reply #5 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 5:21pm
 
Quote:

“It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle-class … involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, ownership of motor vehicles, small electric appliances, home and work place air- conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable .…  A shift is necessary toward lifestyles less geared to environmental damaging consumption patterns.”


Maurice Strong who spearheaded the 1991 Rio Earth Summit wrote in the U.N.’s Conference on Environmental Development (UNCED) report

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsiblity to bring that about?"

- Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme

"If we don't change, our species will not survive... Frankly, we may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrial civilization to collapse."

-Maurice Strong quoted in the September 1, 1997 edition of National Review magazine



old Maurice saviour of the world

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Reply #6 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 6:18pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 3:36pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 2:13pm:
Good, hope ALEC gets disbanded soon.



but "Big Green" and the EPA are not part of ALEC. There is no formal instrument.

So if it should be illegal for members of ALEC to play a part in drafting legislation, should it be illegal for "green groups" to be involved in drafting the Clean Power Plan?

black is white: why not because a harvey norman groupie said so,... i mean politieoly asked yu ton enter inot eternl debate with a heartless german style never ending beginning !??????
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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is.  It wouldn't be there without the tax payer.  Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know....  (swaggy) *
 
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Reply #7 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 6:21pm
 
i can ride a bmx and hide behind nuffink yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

go jules and shite... oi dad  aswell (p. we aint smoking the boring bluer crak;)
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Reply #8 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 6:41pm
 
Ajax wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 5:03pm:
The Greens are a real cancer to humanity.



 


What about Monsanto, Dow Chemicals, TEPCO The Peabody Coal Company or EXXON?

Careful batman, your vitriolic bias is bleeding at the seams

Well done though on trying to prop up fascism in its purist form and congratulations on your high standards in hating children

Well done

well done indeed mate

Now apologise and self ban
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Reply #9 - Mar 22nd, 2016 at 6:53pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 6:41pm:
What about Monsanto, Dow Chemicals, TEPCO The Peabody Coal Company or EXXON?



According to the AGU Exxon is now one of the good guys, Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #10 - Mar 23rd, 2016 at 9:40am
 
lee wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 6:53pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 22nd, 2016 at 6:41pm:
What about Monsanto, Dow Chemicals, TEPCO The Peabody Coal Company or EXXON?



According to the AGU Exxon is now one of the good guys, Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


....but Sooky Sooky Batman didn't answer my very simple question lee - well done mate
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Reply #11 - Mar 23rd, 2016 at 12:05pm
 
What did I say ?
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BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 23rd, 2016 at 12:05pm:
What did I say ?



nothing of any consequence as normal. Grin Grin
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Reply #13 - Mar 23rd, 2016 at 4:48pm
 
Poor sooky sooky Batman needs lee to hold his hand when responding to questions relating to his dogma and religious hatred of children.

poor sooky sooky Batman

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Poor Chimp_logic anally retentive. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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