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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Latest poll Reply #15 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:13pm ____ wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:39am: Once we have a three way leader's election debate, I expect Richard Di Natale will be leading the preferred leader poll ... and by a large lead. There is no excuse for such biased two party debates! It's fascistic!
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Reply #16 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:16pm

If the Coalition were to win 78 House seats after a DD election, they would be unlikely to have the numbers needed to pass legislation at a joint sitting of Parliament without support from the crossbench.

A joint sitting majority is 114 seats out of 226. 78 from 114 leaves 36. The Coalition would need that many Senators to make a joint sitting a viable option, and if they are winning only 78 House seats it is almost impossible for them to win that many Senate seats. They currently hold 33 Senate seats and a DD would likely see them returning about that number again.

They may get enough support from the crossbenchers to make a joint sitting a viable option but it would not be a sure thing.

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Reply #17 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:18pm

____ wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:39am:

Once we have a three way leader's election debate, I expect Richard Di Natale will be leading the preferred leader poll ... and by a large lead.

Why limit it to three though? Polling suggests that Xenophon could win as many as seven seats in SA at a DD election (three in the Senate and four in the House), surely he should be included too?

What about other leaders of parties such as Katter and Palmer?

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 28516 Gender:	Re: Latest poll Reply #18 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:36pm ____ wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:39am: Once we have a three way leader's election debate, I expect Richard Di Natale will be leading the preferred leader poll ... and by a large lead. I think you have a pretty big head. Unfortunately, it's empty.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Latest poll Reply #19 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:43pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:36pm: ____ wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 11:39am: Once we have a three way leader's election debate, I expect Richard Di Natale will be leading the preferred leader poll ... and by a large lead. I think you have a pretty big head. Unfortunately, it's empty. I accept your surrender.
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Reply #20 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:54pm

Bam wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 12:16pm:

If the Coalition were to win 78 House seats after a DD election, they would be unlikely to have the numbers needed to pass legislation at a joint sitting of Parliament without support from the crossbench.

A joint sitting majority is 114 seats out of 226. 78 from 114 leaves 36. The Coalition would need that many Senators to make a joint sitting a viable option, and if they are winning only 78 House seats it is almost impossible for them to win that many Senate seats. They currently hold 33 Senate seats and a DD would likely see them returning about that number again.

They may get enough support from the crossbenchers to make a joint sitting a viable option but it would not be a sure thing.

Wow, never thought of it like that.
This could be a disaster for the Coaltion even if they win.
If they could not get it through during a joint sitting due to a short fall of numbers would they then need to go back to the polls?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Latest poll Reply #21 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:13pm skippy. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:54pm: If they could not get it through during a joint sitting due to a short fall of numbers would they then need to go back to the polls? you never know, they could always (in theory anyway) learn how to negotiate
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Reply #22 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:21pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:13pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:54pm:

If they could not get it through during a joint sitting due to a short fall of numbers would they then need to go back to the polls?

you never know, they could always (in theory anyway) learn how to negotiate

Yea but you'd have to think Turnbulls leadership was doomed if it occurred. If he specifically calls a DD, which it looks like he will, and then can't pass his bills he should resign and call another election.
Funny if that happened.

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Reply #23 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:24pm

skippy. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:13pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:54pm:

If they could not get it through during a joint sitting due to a short fall of numbers would they then need to go back to the polls?

you never know, they could always (in theory anyway) learn how to negotiate

Yea but you'd have to think Turnbulls leadership was doomed if it occurred. If he specifically calls a DD, which it looks like he will, and then can't pass his bills he should resign and call another election.
Funny if that happened.

He doesn't look like the type that would resign ... I wonder what his excuse will be? he has the changes to senate voting that he wanted, he has his DD, if he still can't pass legislation how will he worm out of it?

It could be interesting times ahead.

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Reply #24 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 4:49pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:24pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:13pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:54pm:

If they could not get it through during a joint sitting due to a short fall of numbers would they then need to go back to the polls?

you never know, they could always (in theory anyway) learn how to negotiate

Yea but you'd have to think Turnbulls leadership was doomed if it occurred. If he specifically calls a DD, which it looks like he will, and then can't pass his bills he should resign and call another election.
Funny if that happened.

He doesn't look like the type that would resign ... I wonder what his excuse will be? he has the changes to senate voting that he wanted, he has his DD, if he still can't pass legislation how will he worm out of it?

It could be interesting times ahead.

He lost the moral law long ago!

The lib voters only have a copper internet legacy to look forward to if they win or lose!

HOW THE bugger* WOULD YOU FEEL VOTING LIBERAL IF YOU'RE STILL A GLOBAL JOKE IF YOU WIN OR LOSE?

YOU COULD NEVER SMOKE ENOUGH CRACK TO MAKE IT GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grin

...that's why the crack epidemic is over- the liberal smirk has gone never to raise it's ugly head in the asian century we built again!

Imagine waffling on about john Howard and Tony Abbott in the nursing home until they give you the morphine Cheesy

...wait: that's not all that funny now I think about it Cry

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Reply #25 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 4:51pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 4:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:24pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 3:13pm:

skippy. wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 2:54pm:

If they could not get it through during a joint sitting due to a short fall of numbers would they then need to go back to the polls?

you never know, they could always (in theory anyway) learn how to negotiate

Yea but you'd have to think Turnbulls leadership was doomed if it occurred. If he specifically calls a DD, which it looks like he will, and then can't pass his bills he should resign and call another election.
Funny if that happened.

He doesn't look like the type that would resign ... I wonder what his excuse will be? he has the changes to senate voting that he wanted, he has his DD, if he still can't pass legislation how will he worm out of it?

It could be interesting times ahead.

He lostthe moral law long ago!

The libs only have a copper internet legacy to look forward to if they win or lose!

HOW THE bugger* WOULD YOU FEEL VOTING LIBERAL IF YOU'RE A GLOBAL JOKE IF YOU WIN OR LOSE?

YOU COULD NEVER SMOKE ENOUGH CRACK OT MAKE IT GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grin

...that's why the crack epidemic is over- the liberal smirk has gone never to raise it's ugly head in the asian century we built again!

Imagine waffling on about john Howard and Tony Abbott in the nursing home until they give the morphine Cheesy

...wait: that's not all that funny now I think about it Cry

I think its time you stopped smoking crack to be honest drah..

you are getting worse... Roll Eyes

talking of waffling that is.

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Reply #26 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 4:53pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:25am:

Latest poll on the federal government shows 51/49 TPP for the Coalition, while Turnbull is at 39% approval which is his lowest but still well ahead of Shorten at an unelectable 28%

both appalling...how can anyone tell them apart...

makes me wonder about voters....I bet half of them cant write their name. Angry

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Reply #27 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 5:00pm

Bam wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:25am:

Latest poll on the federal government shows 51/49 TPP for the Coalition, while Turnbull is at 39% approval which is his lowest but still well ahead of Shorten at an unelectable 28%

Dream on. The difference between 28% and 39% is not that great.

Turnbull's net satisfaction is the more important measure, and it's plunging as if it's fallen off a cliff. +38 to -5 in four months is a disaster. If it falls much further, the Coalition are in trouble.

The Newspoll website has a seat projection. 78 seats for the Coalition (a loss of 12), barely a majority. It's dangerously close to minority government territory.

(Newspoll's seat projection is assuming that Joyce will hold New England and Palmer will hold Fairfax which are not safe assumptions.)

Palmer hold Fairfax??? The LNP will easily get that. Family First has a better chance since Palmer is on just 2% of the vote and dropping.

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Reply #28 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 5:02pm

cods wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 4:53pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:25am:

Latest poll on the federal government shows 51/49 TPP for the Coalition, while Turnbull is at 39% approval which is his lowest but still well ahead of Shorten at an unelectable 28%

both appalling...how can anyone tell them apart...

makes me wonder about voters....I bet half of them cant write their name. Angry

Whereas we all know YOU CAN'T TELL YOUR ASS FROM YOUR FACE Cheesy

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Reply #29 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 5:03pm

Bam wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 10:29am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 9:10am:

Bam wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 9:03am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:51am:

Bam wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 21^st, 2016 at 8:25am:

Latest poll on the federal government shows 51/49 TPP for the Coalition, while Turnbull is at 39% approval which is his lowest but still well ahead of Shorten at an unelectable 28%

Dream on. The difference between 28% and 39% is not that great.

Turnbull's net satisfaction is the more important measure, and it's plunging as if it's fallen off a cliff. +38 to -5 in four months is a disaster. If it falls much further, the Coalition are in trouble.

The Newspoll website has a seat projection. 78 seats for the Coalition (a loss of 12), barely a majority. It's dangerously close to minority government territory.

(Newspoll's seat projection is assuming that Joyce will hold New England and Palmer will hold Fairfax which are not safe assumptions.)

No one is going to elect Labor with that dope Shorten at the helm. It simply won't happen.

People said the same thing about Abbott.

No they didn't.

Oh, really? Grin

‘Unelectable’ Tony Abbott returns conservative Liberals to power in Australian election

Stop making up crap.

The claim that Abbott was 'unelectable' is the kind of crap lefties try to spin whiel forgetting that Abbott took a party far behind and brought them to a bees whisker of winning a mere 6 months later. Then every poll after that had Abbott with a massive lead and a landslide election win. Hardly 'unelectable. Shorten however has been behind turnball in every poll and his personal support is miserable.

SHORTEN is unelectable. Abbott clearly was not

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