John_Taverner wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2016 at 6:55pm:



Great. Another hippie chimes in. I don't wear trendy/profundity t-shirt slogans nor do I see socialism as a passing fad.

It's no surprise that many of you white aging hippies support a buffoon like Trump. If you want to have a serious discussion about socialism, fine but enough with your inane-bourgeois pseudo-left cliches that I have mentioned time and time again have absolutely nothing to say to or is about the working class.

Everybody, in life, is either getting a little better every day or a little worse every day.

If you are going up in the world, going to the gym, eating good food, having good sex, if you know that you are "the Sh*t", then you will tend to discard the "loser" ideologies of the left like socialism (glorification of mediocrity).

So a lot of teenagers who dont really know who they are identify with this emo (emotionally weak) loser philosophy, but then, after being mentored by "winners" they leave the dark side and come over to the light.

There are plenty of successful , influential , powerful people who flirted with this non sense at university.

But, they were able to move up in the world, climb the ladder to an actaulised life and not live in mediocre purgatory for ever

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 10:03am:


Floors yours to explain. 

And I hope you can do better than it is the font.   

aquascoot wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 10:42am:



"From my experience, most conservatives have a very poor understanding of socialism." Greg. P.

Case in point.

Second, you have to be famous. It’s hard to get a megaphone for the kinds of views Trump holds unless you have your own. Trump’s views, from protectionism to racial and religious bias, are the kind of sentiments that have popular, but not elite, currency—the kind you can lose a television show for espousing. But Trump already had a TV show before he started saying these things, and 6 million Twitter followers; he couldn’t be shut out by party bosses or any collective sense of propriety. A random no-name billionaire who wasn’t particularly conservative and said offensive things would have been unlikely to get much attention with an out-of-nowhere presidential campaign, but Trump had a built-in audience that made him impossible to ignore.

But there’s a third, essential element: Trump doesn’t care about his reputation. Plenty of people are rich, famous, maybe a little bit racist, and somewhat to the left of the official GOP platform. But they tend to be concerned about what other people think of them. This inhibits them from being fully outrageous or politically incorrect. Trump, on the other hand, acts like a man with nothing to lose. He has given up his show, his beauty pageant, and his Macy’s tie line for his campaign; his brand, which he claimed was worth $3 billion, has sustained inestimable damage. Yet he persists in saying the things people aren’t supposed to say (because they’re false and offensive).

It’s important to understand and appreciate the deep veins of discontent that have led so many Republican voters to gravitate to Trump. But give the man some credit: Plenty of other politicians were smart enough to see what the electorate wants and craven enough to try to give it to them. Only Trump had the unique combination of talents necessary to pull it off.

Secret Wars wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 11:30am:



secret,  asking an emotional child like greg to give a lucid and thought out explanation is just too big an ask.

It would be good to see some progress with his training but this has not occured.

the sound bites and childish pictures are all he can muster as his brain is operating from the emotional mindset and not the logical mindset.

asking an emotional leftard to be logical is too much of an ask.

we, as superior beings must

"Seek first to understand, before asking to be understood"

Greg cant understand us , as he has not reached our level.

You see her?


That's Holly Ranson one of your own and bogard73's alter ego.

3 or so seconds in she immediately starts in on a diatribe of pseudo-left horseshit that is nothing more than identity politics. Take a second to examine her objective social content which is nothing more than bitches hating other bitches for their achievements. Notice how she does not  clearly define class character. Instead, she insistently quotes the organization she belongs to and their ideological tendencies which instills populist hook and slogan tactics to further promote the socioeconomic interests of her privileged and affluent strata.

"Girl power" my fat American ass.

Now some people may think of her as having socialists ideals but that is a myth; she does not look upon her fellow feminist "bitch" sisters as working class but rather an oppressed class. This is the same pseudo-left mind numbing crap I endured as an undergrad in all of those useless "gender studies" courses that more or less programed me that I was a victim. There was always some privileged professor pontificating on and on about [her] unequal displacement in life and how substantial dissatisfied they were that there was ever wealthier, more affluent "bitches" out there.

So, the only way to "get back at the system" was to demand a raised quota with their ridiculous "focus groups" that in turn would allow of a certain percentage of positions for designated women and minorities in order to secure a more plausible distribution of wealth among the most affluent layer in society such as our dear Holly here believes she is. Her so-called organization 'Women for Non-Profit' (or whatever the hell it is) has poo zero to do with the struggles of the working class woman today. In fact, her organizational role is not clearly explained (other than giving percentage quotes).

When society does wake the bugger up and embraces Marxism only then can it seek to develop a true socialist consciousness within the working class (as well as a true socialist revolution). Holly here is way to chickenshit to admit how and why women in the working class are oppressed, and it cannot spontaneously fix itself with bourgeois pseudo-left socialist theories. Yeah, just do what all women do in your position Holly, be a victim and simply blame men.

She is no different from Millennial wool puller Sanders who uses the same pig-friggin' rhetoric. Ever notice how Sanders only speaks of of the “middle class" but never the "working class?"  Just like Holly here, is a populace so vehemently denied for their own god damn personal gain.

She is all about the demoralization of the intellectual. She only expresses a deep political pessimism that will take oppressed women on to the road to nowhere. She is a selfish non-revolutionary character of women everywhere.