Australian Politics Forum - President Donald J Trump

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90033 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #300 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:46pm .. and don't consider an abortion either......
Back to top	“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” ― John Adams IP Logged

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 90033
Proud Old White Australian Man
Gender: male

Re: President Donald J Trump
Reply #301 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:47pm

mothra wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:05pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 8:48pm:

I hear trump had something to say about women being punished for having an abortion.
This is one aspect of american politics i do not like.
He should shut his cakehole on issues like this.
It is a womans choice, pure and simple .
What has this issue got to do with politicians

He got into trouble with the Republicans who make it an election point to try to overthrow Roe vs. Wade and stamp out abortions in the US.

He suitably backpedaled and is now toeing the party line.

Row v Wade said that a woman should not be sanctioned for securing an abortion..... I can;t see that imposing sanctions is going to change anything.. not for the better anyway.

Back to top

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams

IP Logged

mothra

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 36389
Gender: female

Re: President Donald J Trump
Reply #302 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 10:17pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:47pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:05pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 8:48pm:

I hear trump had something to say about women being punished for having an abortion.
This is one aspect of american politics i do not like.
He should shut his cakehole on issues like this.
It is a womans choice, pure and simple .
What has this issue got to do with politicians

He got into trouble with the Republicans who make it an election point to try to overthrow Roe vs. Wade and stamp out abortions in the US.

He suitably backpedaled and is now toeing the party line.

Row v Wade said that a woman should not be sanctioned for securing an abortion..... I can;t see that imposing sanctions is going to change anything.. not for the better anyway.

Certainly not for the better ... but it is what Republicans want.

Trump has previously publicly supported a woman's right to choose. He's under fire for doing so now so he's making a dog's breakfast of the whole thing.

Back to top

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

IP Logged

mothra

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 36389
Gender: female

Re: President Donald J Trump
Reply #303 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 10:20pm

Trump reverses statement on women and abortion after outcry

Appleton, Wisconsin (CNN)Donald Trump scrambled to clarify his position on abortion Wednesday after he said women who undergo the procedure should face "some form of punishment" should the practice be outlawed.

Several hours later -- after widespread condemnation from Trump's presidential rivals and even leading anti-abortion groups -- he walked back his remarks, releasing a statement in which he said that women who obtain abortions are victims and that doctors who perform the service are the ones who should be punished.

"If Congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman," Trump said. "The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb. My position has not changed -- like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions."

The controversy also comes less than a week before Wisconsin Republicans vote in the state's primary, a contest both Trump and his rivals have portrayed as pivotal in the road to the GOP presidential nomination.
Trump's initial comments on Wednesday came after a lengthy exchange with MSNBC host Chris Matthews, who pressured the Republican to give a yes or no answer to the question, "should abortion be punished."

"There has to be some form of punishment," Trump said during a televised town hall event.
"For the woman?" Matthews asked, to which Trump replied, "Yes."

Trump declined to specify how women should be punished if they underwent an illegal abortion.

The Republican front-runner also conceded that outlawing the practice would lead some women to seek out abortions illegally.
"Well, you go back to a position like they had where they would perhaps go to illegal places, but we have to ban it," Trump said during the town hall.
Trump had previously declined to answer the question about what penalties he would support for women who undergo abortions or doctors who perform them.
"I just don't want to talk about that right now," Trump said during a news conference January in Iowa. "Everybody knows my views and I think my views are very plain," Trump said.
Fire from anti-abortion groups

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/donald-trump-abortion-town-hall/

Back to top

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

IP Logged

Lionel Edriess

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 1932
Gender: male

Re: President Donald J Trump
Reply #304 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 10:32pm

Justin Bieber’s Mom Explains Why She Rejected an Abortion.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/09/17/justin-biebers-mom-explains-why-she-rejected-...

Like anti-vaccers, there's always a down-side.

Trump wants women in the kitchen, Mexicans south of the border, etc. etc.

It's not hard to see his appeal the general public - he represents change to a society in malaise. He's not just 'another politician'.

All he does is represent change.

Clinton is a crook and Obama is a failure.

Options?

Back to top

Toughen up, Australia!

IP Logged

mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36389 Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #305 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 10:42pm Lionel Edriess wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 10:32pm: ty in malaise. He's not just 'another politician'. Clinton is a crook and Obama is a failure. Options? Bernie Sanders for the win! He's a bona fide Disney Princess.
Back to top	If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning. IP Logged

BatteriesNotIncluded

Gold Member

Offline

MediocrityNET: because
people died for this!

Posts: 26966

Re: President Donald J Trump
Reply #306 - Mar 31^st, 2016 at 11:01pm

Lionel Edriess wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 10:32pm:

Justin Bieber’s Mom Explains Why She Rejected an Abortion.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/09/17/justin-biebers-mom-explains-why-she-rejected-...

Like anti-vaccers, there's always a down-side.

Trump wants women in the kitchen, Mexicans south of the border, etc. etc.

It's not hard to see his appeal the general public - he represents change to a society in malaise. He's not just 'another politician'.

All he does is represent change.

Clinton is a crook and Obama is a failure.

Options?

A holiday always sounds good: just go to the voting booth to sign up!

That is what you call selling lifestyles Grin

("...FOLKS !!!!! Cheesy

")

Back to top

*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

IP Logged

Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #307 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 4:01am bump bump
Back to top	live every day IP Logged

bogarde73

Gold Member

Offline

Anti-Global & Contra Mundum

Posts: 18443
Gender: male

Re: President Donald J Trump
Reply #308 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 6:06am

mothra wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 8:25pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 2:37pm:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 1:42pm:

Quite right Herb. Even George Washington had some history: he was a war criminal (he murdered French prisoners of war) and he started the Seven Years War.
Clearly not Pres material...

Abraham Lincoln kept black slaves ...

He did not.

For crying out loud.

Tom Jefferson certainly did. He had children with one while he penned the Declaration of Independence.
It was all the rage.

Back to top

Know the enemies of a civil society by their public behaviour, by their fraudulent claim to be liberal-progressive, by their propensity to lie and, above all, by their attachment to authoritarianism.

IP Logged

bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #309 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 6:09am New York: Third 50+ poll for The Donald in a row. Could be set for 100% of delegates. Whoopee doo
Back to top	Know the enemies of a civil society by their public behaviour, by their fraudulent claim to be liberal-progressive, by their propensity to lie and, above all, by their attachment to authoritarianism. IP Logged

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 90033
Proud Old White Australian Man
Gender: male

Re: President Donald J Trump
Reply #310 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 7:06am

Lionel Edriess wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 10:32pm:

Justin Bieber’s Mom Explains Why She Rejected an Abortion.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/09/17/justin-biebers-mom-explains-why-she-rejected-...

Like anti-vaccers, there's always a down-side.

Trump wants women in the kitchen, Mexicans south of the border, etc. etc.

It's not hard to see his appeal the general public - he represents change to a society in malaise. He's not just 'another politician'.

All he does is represent change.

Clinton is a crook and Obama is a failure.

Options?

Justin Beiber's mother refused an abortion? That's like Hitler's mother forgetting the condom... or Charles Manson's mother refusing the pill or whatever... Idi Amin's mother giving in to rape by some burly joongle boonny or Silverback.......

Back to top

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams

IP Logged

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90033 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #311 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 7:12am Abie didn't keep slaves..... Washington did.... many Negroes are named Washington.... most took the plantation owner's name, not necessarily were his offspring.... though there is a question or two around... http://www.nytimes.com/1999/07/07/us/descendants-of-slave-s-son-contend-that-his...
Back to top	“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” ― John Adams IP Logged

Lord Herbert

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 34441
Gender: male

Re: President Donald J Trump
Reply #312 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 7:39am

mothra wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:05pm:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 8:48pm:

I hear trump had something to say about women being punished for having an abortion.
This is one aspect of american politics i do not like.
He should shut his cakehole on issues like this.
It is a womans choice, pure and simple .
What has this issue got to do with politicians

He got into trouble with the Republicans who make it an election point to try to overthrow Roe vs. Wade and stamp out abortions in the US.

He suitably backpedaled and is now toeing the party line.

Excellent.

Every third post in OzPolitical is proof-positive that early-term abortions should be ramped up as a viable industry in the poorer sections of town where the sperms struggle to get the right sort of nutrition from their drugged-up hosts.

Back to top

IP Logged

greggerypeccary

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 151219
Gender: male

Re: President Donald J Trump
Reply #313 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 7:46am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 7:06am:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 10:32pm:

Justin Bieber’s Mom Explains Why She Rejected an Abortion.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/09/17/justin-biebers-mom-explains-why-she-rejected-...

Like anti-vaccers, there's always a down-side.

Trump wants women in the kitchen, Mexicans south of the border, etc. etc.

It's not hard to see his appeal the general public - he represents change to a society in malaise. He's not just 'another politician'.

All he does is represent change.

Clinton is a crook and Obama is a failure.

Options?

Justin Beiber's mother refused an abortion? That's like Hitler's mother forgetting the condom... or Charles Manson's mother refusing the pill or whatever... Idi Amin's mother giving in to rape by some burly joongle boonny or Silverback.......

You know the world's in trouble when people start listening to Drumpf, and Bieber's mother.

Back to top

GOP = Guardians Of Paedophiles

IP Logged

GordyL

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 4365
Hate Town
Gender: male

Re: President Donald J Trump
Reply #314 - Apr 1^st, 2016 at 7:51am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 7:46am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 7:06am:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 10:32pm:

Justin Bieber’s Mom Explains Why She Rejected an Abortion.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/09/17/justin-biebers-mom-explains-why-she-rejected-...

Like anti-vaccers, there's always a down-side.

Trump wants women in the kitchen, Mexicans south of the border, etc. etc.

It's not hard to see his appeal the general public - he represents change to a society in malaise. He's not just 'another politician'.

All he does is represent change.

Clinton is a crook and Obama is a failure.

Options?

Justin Beiber's mother refused an abortion? That's like Hitler's mother forgetting the condom... or Charles Manson's mother refusing the pill or whatever... Idi Amin's mother giving in to rape by some burly joongle boonny or Silverback.......

You know the world's in trouble when people start listening to Drumpf, and Bieber's mother.

I just heard him say something about why Sth Korea isn't paying for the USA military presence at the border. I assume they buy a sh!t tone of weapons from USA, but it would be interesting to see the trade imbalance between the two countries.

Back to top

On the Ning Nang Nong
Where the Cows go Bong!
and the monkeys all say BOO!

IP Logged