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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #2655 - Aug 10^th, 2016 at 10:05pm I am not going to post for a while because my wonderful NBN service is taking about a minute to bring up a complete page, then drops out, and I'm fed up with the bloody thing. I'll still read posts tho... Just took 2 minutes to get up this reply . Grrrrrrwl
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Reply #2656 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 12:35am

OK I'm back.

Seems to be a bit better now.

Where were we? OH yeah that's right .. you were saying Clinton hasn't put any money in... I reckon close to $1,000,000 is a lot more than nothing. She has been getting a lot of campaign contributions because NO-ONE with any nous really wants to see The Creep as President, and hey who could blame them.?

I mean you have seen the calibre of his small contributors haven't you?? Huh

If it's possible, they are even stupider than the Creep himself. I wonder how much of his inherited wealth he has lost. All of it, most likely. Roll Eyes

Maybe you can supply details of his business failures and creditors.. under Section 11.. Just to be FAIR you know.?

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Marla Gold Member Offline A joint a day keeps the MAGA away Posts: 14722 Colorado Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #2657 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 8:30am White people for Trump:
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 151648 Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #2658 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 9:20am Marla wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 8:30am: White people for Trump: Hard to tell who's more insane: Trump, or his followers.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41499 Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #2659 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 11:07am Emma wrote on Aug 10^th, 2016 at 10:01pm: Earlier you showed $997,157 as hers.. which you equated to 0%. ..........Trump - Candidate self-financing $49,950,643 (56%)..........
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Reply #2661 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 9:57pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 11:07am:

Emma wrote on Aug 10^th, 2016 at 10:01pm:

Earlier you showed
$997,157 as hers.. which you equated to 0%.

..........Trump - Candidate self-financing $49,950,643 (56%)..........

Nevertheless, Clinton HAS contributed nearly $1,000,000
when you said 0%.
As for the Creeps so-called own contributions.. if you believe that you are a chump. Where are the details?? Can't find them can you, whereas Clinton has open books.

And I wish posters wouldn't keep on putting up videosof the Creep. It slows down this topic, and adds nothing but propaganda to no purpose.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41499 Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #2662 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 11:28pm hillarys self funding does equate to 0 % that shows HOW much the hedge funds OWN her. It's all about money.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41499 Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #2663 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 11:33pm Quote: ..........Source of funds for Hillary Clinton. Large Individual Contributions $180,314,000 (68%) Candidate self-financing $997,159 (0%)....... https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate.php?id=N00000019 hedge funds etc put in 180 X whatever she has.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41499 Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #2664 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 11:37pm Quote: Source of funds for Trump Large Individual Contributions $12,361,023 (14%) Candidate self-financing $49,950,643 (56%) https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate.php?id=N00023864 Trump puts in 4X what corporations put in. the corporations don't want him to win
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Reply #2665 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 11:51pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 11:33pm:

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..........Source of funds for Hillary Clinton.

Large Individual Contributions $180,314,000 (68%)
Candidate self-financing $997,159 (0%).......

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate.php?id=N00000019

hedge funds etc put in 180 X whatever she has.

But wouldn't that be typical of election campaigns in America.?
I doubt this is any different to earlier campaigns.
Large Contributions to their preferred candidate is surely par for the course.

I doubt funding of earlier campaigns were any different to this one in context or comparison.. There would always have been funding from large corporations for their preferred candidate. Nothing UNUSUAL about it really, is there?
What is so bad about it.? The surprise for me, given your stats, as provided, is that the Creep has allegedly put in so much. Roll Eyes

To me, that means the usual suspects don't want him. Isn't that typical American politics ??

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Reply #2666 - Aug 12^th, 2016 at 12:23am

You are presenting these figures as if there is some terrible shift in American campaigning.
Some sort of conspiracy. Roll Eyes

You appear to be morally outraged.. I don't understand why.. this is just a typical American Presidential campaign, except that there is a total FUP running. And you like the Fup and hate Clinton. Really Sprintcyclist, try to be objective, after all it has nothing to do with you really, does it.?

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41499 Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #2667 - Aug 12^th, 2016 at 1:03am Hi Emma, I would imagine large corporations have often donated to the candidate that will reward them the most. the funds have done well off the clintons and obama. Very well indeed. All at the expense of the worker the working person has done badly in the last decade in the US.
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Reply #2668 - Aug 12^th, 2016 at 10:06am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 12^th, 2016 at 1:03am:

Hi Emma,

I would imagine large corporations have often donated to the candidate that will reward them the most.

the funds have done well off the clintons and obama. Very well indeed. All at the expense of the worker

the working person has done badly in the last decade in the US.

It's what they call "Pay for Access/Pay for Favor".

Typically large corporations who want access/favor will make huge contribution payments to the campaign....sometimes the same corporation will 'hedge their bets' by contributing large sums to both major candidates. Hillary has taken such money (all candidates must report size & from whom they receive large donations from), whereas Trump has not taken large donations. Once reported by the various candidates, & the authorities watch them like a hawk, it becomes part of the Public Record.

JFYI......Candidates are absolutely forbidden, by law, to take any donations from Foreign Countries or individuals......Full Stop.

You or I couldn't legally contribute to a U.S. Presidential Candidate.

The authorities aren't too concerned about small individual contributions....but larger contributions are heavily scrutinized.

It's been reported that Hillary's Clinton Foundation is being looked into by authorities because of multiple accusations that foreign Middle Eastern & Russian (amongst many others) monies donated into the Foundation for humanitarian causes & purposes are being funneled into her campaign fund illegally. They're talking about tens of millions.

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Reply #2669 - Aug 12^th, 2016 at 11:48pm

Panther wrote on Aug 12^th, 2016 at 10:06am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 12^th, 2016 at 1:03am:

Hi Emma,

I would imagine large corporations have often donated to the candidate that will reward them the most.

the funds have done well off the clintons and obama. Very well indeed. All at the expense of the worker

the working person has done badly in the last decade in the US.

It's what they call "Pay for Access/Pay for Favor".

Typically large corporations who want access/favor will make huge contribution payments to the campaign....sometimes the same corporation will 'hedge their bets' by contributing large sums to both major candidates. Hillary has taken such money (all candidates must report size & from whom they receive large donations from), whereas Trump has not taken large donations. Once reported by the various candidates, & the authorities watch them like a hawk, it becomes part of the Public Record.

JFYI......Candidates are absolutely forbidden, by law, to take any donations from Foreign Countries or individuals......Full Stop.

You or I couldn't legally contribute to a U.S. Presidential Candidate.

The authorities aren't too concerned about small individual contributions....but larger contributions are heavily scrutinized.

It's been reported that Hillary's Clinton Foundation is being looked into by authorities because of multiple accusations that foreign Middle Eastern & Russian (amongst many others) monies donated into the Foundation for humanitarian causes & purposes are being funneled into her campaign fund illegally. They're talking about tens of millions.

I would say... that is what we call Capitalism.

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