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Reply #210 - Mar 29^th, 2016 at 7:49am

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 7:02am:

One other thing has been added lately and that is Obama's increasing calls not to stigmatize Muslims, they are America's best asset he says.

Sure they are.

CAIR = Council on American-Islamic Relations.

"But there is another side to CAIR that has alarmed many people in positions to know. The Department of Homeland Security refuses to deal with it. Senator Charles Schumer (Democrat, New York) describes it as an organization "which we know has ties to terrorism."[3] Senator Dick Durbin (Democrat, Illinois) observes that CAIR is "unusual in its extreme rhetoric and its associations with groups that are suspect."[4] Steven Pomerantz, the FBI's former chief of counterterrorism, notes that "CAIR, its leaders, and its activities effectively give aid to international terrorist groups."[5] The family of John P. O'Neill, Sr., the former FBI counterterrorism chief who perished at the World Trade Center, named CAIR in a lawsuit as having "been part of the criminal conspiracy of radical Islamic terrorism"[6] responsible for the September 11 atrocities. Counterterrorism expert Steven Emerson calls it "a radical fundamentalist front group for Hamas."

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Reply #212 - Mar 29^th, 2016 at 8:12am

issuevoter wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

After every Muslim atrocity since the 1990s, the only thing offered in response have been empty platitudes about solidarity, standing firm, and not being intimidated. You will notice that when the bombs go off, people run. So much for standing firm.
The first requirement to win a war is unity. The West is not united. Islam is united about one thing, its hatred of the West.

i think you are correct but it may even be simpler then that.
one of the things about humans (in fact about all species) is the law of "Do as little as possible and conserve energy"

this works pretty well for the kangaroos at my joint.
they dont go out and plant a field of lucerne and irrigate it.(they are into being lazy...it is a survival technique).

And most people nowadays have all their basic maslow needs met for food , shelter etc with virtually zero effort.

When your DNA just wants to spread, why not just chill out, live in a durr state, bang dumb chicks, spread your DNA and let the dumbies pick up the tab.

(So the movers and shakers and Tony Robbins reading motivated people probably have it wrong)

Indeed muslims breeding up have the right strategy...kudos Wink

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But i digress, the point i was trying to make is that to unite, act, be strong, be influential, tackle this issue head on with vigor is just TOO MUCH EFFORT for the average joe.

He's a lazy bum and he's rather just ignore the problem.
He's like the farmer who is too lazy to go weed his field.
Eventually the weeds will invade his crop and take his field. They'll grow up between his toes if he does not take action.

How far can he beat them back?

past the horizon if he is not lazy.

But laziness is very tempting Wink

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Reply #213 - Mar 29^th, 2016 at 8:36am

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 7:02am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

After every Muslim atrocity since the 1990s, the only thing offered in response have been empty platitudes about solidarity, standing firm, and not being intimidated. You will notice that when the bombs go off, people run. So much for standing firm.
The first requirement to win a war is unity. The West is not united. Islam is united about one thing, its hatred of the West.

One other thing has been added lately and that is Obama's increasing calls not to stigmatize Muslims, they are America's best asset he says.

I just wonder: you can take the African boy out of the Indonesian education system but can you take the Indonesian education system out of the African boy.

Can I see that birth certificate again please.

Why its already been shown not to be fake, he was born in the USA.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #214 - Mar 29^th, 2016 at 8:40am

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2016/03/21/donald-trump-will-win-in-a-landslide-the-mind-behind-dilbert-explains-why/

Puts some insight into it, although the problem is for me it still doesnt explain why he's running, although I suspect looking at these reasons, its because he wants power, not to help the USA

1. Trump knows people are basically irrational.

2. Knowing that people are irrational, Trump aims to appeal on an emotional level.

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3. By running on emotion, facts don’t matter.

4. If facts don’t matter, you can’t really be “wrong.”

5. With fewer facts in play, it’s easier to bend reality.

6. To bend reality, Trump is a master of identity politics — and identity is the strongest persuader.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #216 - Mar 29^th, 2016 at 9:29am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 8:36am:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 7:02am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

After every Muslim atrocity since the 1990s, the only thing offered in response have been empty platitudes about solidarity, standing firm, and not being intimidated. You will notice that when the bombs go off, people run. So much for standing firm.
The first requirement to win a war is unity. The West is not united. Islam is united about one thing, its hatred of the West.

One other thing has been added lately and that is Obama's increasing calls not to stigmatize Muslims, they are America's best asset he says.

I just wonder: you can take the African boy out of the Indonesian education system but can you take the Indonesian education system out of the African boy.

Can I see that birth certificate again please.

Why its already been shown not to be fake, he was born in the USA.

It was a rhetorical question.
But I'm beginning to think the US needs a constitutional amendment here. Gone are the days when being technically an American-born citizen is a guarantee of absolute loyalty to the US. Maybe candidates for president need to have a cultural affinity worked out on some basis.
We wouldn't want a Manchurian Islamic Candidate.

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Reply #217 - Mar 29^th, 2016 at 9:35am

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 9:29am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 8:36am:

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 7:02am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

After every Muslim atrocity since the 1990s, the only thing offered in response have been empty platitudes about solidarity, standing firm, and not being intimidated. You will notice that when the bombs go off, people run. So much for standing firm.
The first requirement to win a war is unity. The West is not united. Islam is united about one thing, its hatred of the West.

One other thing has been added lately and that is Obama's increasing calls not to stigmatize Muslims, they are America's best asset he says.

I just wonder: you can take the African boy out of the Indonesian education system but can you take the Indonesian education system out of the African boy.

Can I see that birth certificate again please.

Why its already been shown not to be fake, he was born in the USA.

It was a rhetorical question.
But I'm beginning to think the US needs a constitutional amendment here. Gone are the days when being technically an American-born citizen is a guarantee of absolute loyalty to the US. Maybe candidates for president need to have a cultural affinity worked out on some basis.
We wouldn't want a Manchurian Islamic Candidate.

Its a slippery slope, you could technically argue that any candidate you don't agree with is disloyal to the US

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #219 - Mar 29^th, 2016 at 10:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 9:44am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 8:40am:

Puts some insight into it, although the problem is for me it still doesnt explain why he's running, although I suspect looking at these reasons, its because he wants power, not to help the USA.

Yes.

And attention.

Self actualising people always are moving up to higher and higher levels of consciousness.
So one moves from drugs and alcohol to
getting a job to
getting a relationship to
building a business to having monetary success.

But monetary success, in and of itself, is not spiritually allowing one to keep expanding and giving ones gifts.

remember a male, an alpha male will be constantly wanting to penetrate into the world and improve himself.

So the next level above monetary gain is to mentor the next generation.

this donald did thru the show "the apprentice" which was about his sense of "contribution"

Now, as a fully self actualised male, he is doing this so that he can contribute his gifts.

One of the things about masculine energy is that it should be "free"
Feminine energy is contrained and worries about not offending. it is timid.

A true alpha male is confident enough that he says and does whatever he wants.

We must trust that he does this from a place of high consciousness and contribution and i believe that Mr Trump does.

For him to be in the white house would be a very natural thing , it is in alignment with the natural order of things and should work well for everyones betterment

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Reply #220 - Mar 29^th, 2016 at 10:34am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 10:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 9:44am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 8:40am:

Puts some insight into it, although the problem is for me it still doesnt explain why he's running, although I suspect looking at these reasons, its because he wants power, not to help the USA.

Yes.

And attention.

Self actualising people ...

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Reply #221 - Mar 29^th, 2016 at 11:28am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 10:34am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 10:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 9:44am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 8:40am:

Puts some insight into it, although the problem is for me it still doesnt explain why he's running, although I suspect looking at these reasons, its because he wants power, not to help the USA.

Yes.

And attention.

Self actualising people ...

http://cdn4.gurl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/bored-brad-pitt-boyfriend-signs....

well , lets try to be logical.
Donald certainly doesnt need the money.
If he was just a selfish rich person , of low consciousness, he could go sit on a beach on his own island.
The fact that he wants to accept all this grief, scrutiny and make himself a target shows that he DOES value a higher purpose then his own comforts.
Good on him and his motivation would appear very pure

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150871 Gender:	Re: President Donald J Trump Reply #222 - Mar 29^th, 2016 at 11:32am aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 11:28am: The fact that he wants to accept all this grief, scrutiny and make himself a target shows that he ... ... is a bored, failed businessman (successful conman) who craves attention. Drumpf cares about Drumpf. Nobody, or nothing, else.
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Reply #223 - Mar 29^th, 2016 at 11:33am

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 11:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 10:34am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 10:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 9:44am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 8:40am:

Puts some insight into it, although the problem is for me it still doesnt explain why he's running, although I suspect looking at these reasons, its because he wants power, not to help the USA.

Yes.

And attention.

Self actualising people ...

http://cdn4.gurl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/bored-brad-pitt-boyfriend-signs....

well , lets try to be logical.
Donald certainly doesnt need the money.
If he was just a selfish rich person , of low consciousness, he could go sit on a beach on his own island.
The fact that he wants to accept all this grief, scrutiny and make himself a target shows that he DOES value a higher purpose then his own comforts.
Good on him and his motivation would appear very pure

My god you're a smacking halfwit.

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Reply #224 - Mar 29^th, 2016 at 11:45am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 11:32am:

aquascoot wrote on Mar 29^th, 2016 at 11:28am:

The fact that he wants to accept all this grief, scrutiny and make himself a target shows that he ...

... is a bored, failed businessman (successful conman) who craves attention.

Drumpf cares about Drumpf. Nobody, or nothing, else.

I think he's a patriot who cares very deeply about his country.

Career civil servants like barak and michelle or career intellectual elites like bill and hilary....they probably cant see past their own snouts in the trough.

Hilary got into a bit of trouble for saying that herself and bill were broke when they left the white house.
She seems a little focused on her own needs and desires.

A true patriot , like donald though, gives off good clean energy that resonates with the society, that invigorates people.

How anyone could be invigorated by Mrs Clinton is beyond me. It seems even bill prefered overweight plain women to his wifes "energy". Her energy, her "life force" is so vague. What sort of energy does Hilary give off.
Its certianly not the divine feminine. its very dirty energy. like brown coal. Her energy is not focused and laser like. Its so whack. She definitely needs to meditate and get in touch with her "true authentic self"

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