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Reply #165 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 7:02am
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:38pm:
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Motive is the difference between murder and manslaughter.


Really??  Since when?


Since Homo Sapiens developed a brain.

Accidental homicide as against intentional homicide. I hope you're taking notes.
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Reply #166 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 7:03am
 
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Reply #167 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 7:05am
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:57pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:49pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:38pm:
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Motive is the difference between murder and manslaughter.


Really??  Since when?

Since for ever.




I'll bet pounds to peanuts that you will find no definition of murder which includes the word 'motive.'  Prove me wrong.


Use you own brain, Aussie - and you can take that as a compliment.  Grin
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Reply #168 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 8:32am
 
Voting for Hillary Clinton means voting for third world war.

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Reply #169 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 9:38am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 7:05am:
Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:57pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:49pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 26th, 2016 at 8:38pm:
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Motive is the difference between murder and manslaughter.


Really??  Since when?

Since for ever.




I'll bet pounds to peanuts that you will find no definition of murder which includes the word 'motive.'  Prove me wrong.


Use you own brain, Aussie - and you can take that as a compliment.  Grin


So you too reckon motive = intent.
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Reply #170 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 10:01am
 
Emma wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 1:11am:
oh dear wandered off-topic  Cheesy

Is Trump accused of murder.?  No ? 

So get back on track . Let's not digress into even more rubbish. The current rubbish is sufficient.

So  .. having some doubts now Bogey?  Trump might say all the things you want to hear,  BUT ... could he ever deliver.? Would we want him to.?

We won't get to find out.  Why?  Because he won't be voted in by the American people.  I still believe there are more sane, than insane, americans, despite evidence to the contrary.

Time will tell.


Welcome to the thread where it was supposed to be about campaign matters Emma.
I always have doubts about everything. Certainty is not in my DNA.
I believe though if it were a level playing field Trump would win. But in so many ways it's not and it's a surprise he's got this far.

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Reply #171 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:20pm
 
One man's opinion - Joseph Farah, WND:


Republican insiders say he can’t win.

Donald Trump cannot beat Hillary Clinton, they insist.

He’s also dangerous, they say. He is “divisive.” He is alienating U.S. allies and encouraging U.S. enemies, the naysayers claim.

That’s why he must be stopped at all costs.

May I, as a Ted Cruz supporter, just step in here for a minute and explain why Donald Trump, as Republican nominee for president, will win a landslide election victory over Hillary and actually be a welcome alternative to the kind of leadership America has experienced for the last 27 years?
I don’t care what the national polls say now about a matchup between Trump and Clinton. I am old enough to remember vividly what the polls between Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter looked like in 1980 at this point in the presidential campaign. They suggested Reagan had no chance to win. He trailed Carter in the polls by double digits. He went on to carry 44 states that year, including New York and California – 49 states four years later.

That is very close to what I expect Trump to do to Hillary if he becomes the nominee.

Why do I think that?

It’s mostly based on how I see people I know reacting to Trump – friends, relatives, acquaintances. Yes, some fear him. Some loathe him. Some think he’s a joke. But that’s a very tiny minority. Overwhelmingly, what I see are people who can’t wait to pull the lever for him. They’re excited – Republicans, independents, Democrats, people who voted for Barack Obama twice, non-political people, tea party folks, Americans who are fed up with Washington dictating to them.

This isn’t something new. I’ve written about it before. It’s widespread. It’s not based on the kind of small samplings most of the national pollsters use. It’s now based on thousands of people I know and hear from in my position at WND, where I get thousands of emails every day. And, keep in mind, these people know they’re writing to someone who has endorsed Ted Cruz. They’re not telling me what I want to hear.

I’ve also been courted by Republicans who want me to enlist in efforts to thwart Trump at any cost.

It’s inconceivable for me.

While I think Trump will be somewhat unpredictable should he become president, I don’t understand the fear and loathing some feel. I’m not talking about Republican establishment people. I understand Trump represents an existential threat for them. To me that’s a good thing. I’m talking about conservative Republicans who somehow see Trump being worse than Mitt Romney or John McCain.

I don’t believe that at all.

Trump would be a far better president than either one of them – and he can win.

Though I have misgivings about some Trump ideas, here’s what I feel certain he would do as president:
•Seal the border, build a wall and enforce immigration laws. This is without a doubt one of the most important priorities for America’s safety and security. If we don’t do this, we will cease to be a sovereign, self-governing republic in the next generation.
•If the Republican Congress sends Trump a bill repealing Obamacare, he will sign it.
•If the Republican Congress sends Trump a budget that cuts spending, taxes and regulation, he will sign it.
•If the Republican Congress gets serious about freezing the debt and balancing the budget, Trump will approve.
•Trump will take on and defeat ISIS.

Does anyone really doubt any of these assumptions?

If someone asked the naysayers a year ago if they would be happy with a president who would do all of these things, how would they react?

Did we have someone like that as the Republican nominee in 2012? How about 2008? How about 2004 or 2000? How about 1996 or 1992? How about 1988?

Do you get my point?

We haven’t had a presidential nominee like that since 1984 and 1980.

It’s been quite a drought.

So why are some conservative Republicans apoplectic about Trump? Where were they in 2012 and 2008 and over the last 27 years?

There’s certainly no reason to panic about Trump. While he doesn’t have the clear-eyed vision and gentle manner of Ronald Reagan, he does have a lot going for him – especially compared to Hillary, Bernie, Obama, Romney, McCain, both Bushes and even Bob Dole.

Can we relax a little, calm down and enjoy the moment?

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Reply #172 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 3:10pm
 
Keep it brief for my glazed eyes, bogey ...
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Reply #173 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 3:28pm
 
You have to be prepared to read a lot of stuff to absorb ideas & opinions Herb.
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Reply #174 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 4:32pm
 
capitosinora wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 8:32am:
Voting for Hillary Clinton means voting for third world war.



and a brainless twit. Her last gasp for air was sucking up to bruce jenner in drag with his drag queen mates. They just happened to be there, yeah right. She may as well run after the transvestite vote I guess. Then again she really won't be needing it to fail.
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Reply #175 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 8:29pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 3:28pm:
You have to be prepared to read a lot of stuff to absorb ideas & opinions Herb.


That's why we're all relying on YOU to do the foot-work and the heavy-lifting on these reading and research chores.

We rely on YOU to absorb whole libraries of news material every 24 hours so you can then regurgitate it back to us like a pelican mother unloads its beak straight into the gaping maw of its chicks.


That's me probing for tasty morsels of news items at the back of your throat. bogarde.

Much obliged.




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Reply #176 - Mar 27th, 2016 at 11:07pm
 

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:20pm:
While I think Trump will be somewhat unpredictable should he become president, I don’t understand the fear and loathing some feel. I’m not talking about Republican establishment people. I understand Trump represents an existential threat for them. To me that’s a good thing. I’m talking about conservative Republicans who somehow see Trump being worse than Mitt Romney or John McCain.I don’t believe that at all.Trump would be a far better president than either one of them – and he can win.Though I have misgivings about some Trump ideas, here’s what I feel certain he would do as president:•Seal the border, build a wall and enforce immigration laws. This is without a doubt one of the most important priorities for America’s safety and security. If we don’t do this, we will cease to be a sovereign, self-governing republic in the next generation.•If the Republican Congress sends Trump a bill repealing Obamacare, he will sign it.•If the Republican Congress sends Trump a budget that cuts spending, taxes and regulation, he will sign it.•If the Republican Congress gets serious about freezing the debt and balancing the budget, Trump will approve.•Trump will take on and defeat ISIS.Does anyone really doubt any of these assumptions?




YEP.
I find your assumptions have the nature of the words of an acolyte. 

I am not one of those. Worship the rich man whose promises spout out like  .........  yeecch...
... believe him as you wish...  just be prepared to be sadly disappointed.
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Reply #177 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 6:58am
 
I am looking to Trump as a last chance for action.
Look at the last three presidencies.
Clinton virtually nothing. Bush a war that was a mistake. And Obama, the biggest promises of all and the biggest disgrace of all.
Nothing done for America at all in 24 years.

America's cities & infrastructure are crying out for renewal. I think this is a theme Trump should take up & run with now.
There is for eg an eviction epidemic going on in the cities now. A whole industry. This is the kind of thing that is at the root of America's troubles. It all comes down to a roof, food on the table, health.

It needs someone to stand up & be an FDR.

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Reply #178 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 7:27am
 
capitosinora wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 8:32am:
Voting for Hillary Clinton means voting for third world war.



Is there any logic behind this statement or did you just want to make the silliest post on the topic ?

You would as is normal expect that the opposite was a higher probability.

The mad redneck rightard  locking down the borders and insulting everyone else in the world would be much more of an issue in this area.
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Reply #179 - Mar 28th, 2016 at 8:30am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Mar 28th, 2016 at 6:58am:
I am looking to Trump as a last chance for action.
Look at the last three presidencies.
Clinton virtually nothing. Bush a war that was a mistake. And Obama, the biggest promises of all and the biggest disgrace of all.
Nothing done for America at all in 24 years.

America's cities & infrastructure are crying out for renewal. I think this is a theme Trump should take up & run with now.
There is for eg an eviction epidemic going on in the cities now. A whole industry. This is the kind of thing that is at the root of America's troubles. It all comes down to a roof, food on the table, health.

It needs someone to stand up & be an FDR.



Trump's instincts are contrarian to FDR's call of internationalism and economic strangulation.  He espouses a return to the 50s era which dismantled FDR's New Deal and saw American economic growth behind a wall of protective trade.

It's already begun:  from commodity chains and exchanges to a mad-dash for milling and foundry-clean floorspace.  Some local governments (from Mexico to China) have even threatened to impound or outright confiscate tooling to prevent American repatriation (as if a restatement of that possibility were not already baked into the cake), hence the focus INCONUS on start-ups recently, often as subdivisions, reorganization and spin-offs from established host companies, for example, in macroprogramming for multi-gang CNC.

It's a hedge for an obvious trend, and opportunity, in which some basic entrepreneurialism is filling the gap.  Capability is not a question.  We can teach 16-year olds to run HVACs and set the molecular filtration units rather than having grad-students delivering mail (which would mean a raise for everyone involved). 

The question is "How much capacity?  At what price?  On what timetable?"

The money managers have lagged behind as they always do, asking "When do you get funding?", not realizing that money chases wealth, not the other way around.

And while I have many professional relationships overseas including in Aussieland and the Western Pacific, I'm under no illusions as to what the original American Conservative paradigm means for their businesses and our's.

As stated earlier, Trump's instincts are not directly beneficial to Aussies and our overseas partners.  Many are too focused on the negatives without acknowledging that unless business is beneficial to both sides, it won't last.  Others have not fared as well.  Word has gotten around that many have gone nuclear in conference, which is (and is not) surprising.

This is business.

Trump has shifted the dynamics of how we look at a competitive US market, whether he wins or loses - just by pointing out the sword of Damocles.  And if it comes into full focus, no matter what industry in America you're in, everyone will have to break ground, add payroll, and adapt.

Interesting times Smiley
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