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Vic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8554 Melbourne Victoria Gender:	Re: CFMEU slapped with more than $2 million in fines Reply #30 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 2:24pm Good to see the rightards back and posting! What with all the corruption, theft, sleeping around by the ExPM, backstabbing, power struggles, ICAC hearings, retirements and everything else going on with the Libs, the absence has been noted. Welcome back for the day!
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Reply #31 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 2:43pm

While I am not going to deny that there are problems with the CFMEU, which appears to be the last bastion of old style union "thuggery", saying that Bill Shorten has to do something about it is about as ridiculous as saying that Malcolm Turnbull has to do something about reining in the excesses of the private sector.

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Reply #32 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:44pm

Wolseley wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 2:43pm:

While I am not going to deny that there are problems with the CFMEU, which appears to be the last bastion of old style union "thuggery", saying that Bill Shorten has to do something about it is about as ridiculous as saying that Malcolm Turnbull has to do something about reining in the excesses of the private sector.

Bill Shorten is a former UNion head and not leader of the ALP. Yes, he does have a responsibility to do something about union thuggery.

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Reply #33 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:47pm

Wolseley wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 2:43pm:

While I am not going to deny that there are problems with the CFMEU, which appears to be the last bastion of old style union "thuggery", saying that Bill Shorten has to do something about it is about as ridiculous as saying that Malcolm Turnbull has to do something about reining in the excesses of the private sector.

He's the Leader of the ALP. He absolutely can influence the behaviour of the Unions.

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Reply #34 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:44pm:

Wolseley wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 2:43pm:

While I am not going to deny that there are problems with the CFMEU, which appears to be the last bastion of old style union "thuggery", saying that Bill Shorten has to do something about it is about as ridiculous as saying that Malcolm Turnbull has to do something about reining in the excesses of the private sector.

Bill Shorten is a former UNion head and not leader of the ALP. Yes, he does have a responsibility to do something about union thuggery.

He is the leader of the ALP. His prime area of responsibility rests with the ALP. Anyone who suggests otherwise is an idiot.

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Wolseley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1453 Sydney Gender:	Re: CFMEU slapped with more than $2 million in fines Reply #35 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm And exactly how is the leader of the ALP is supposed to be able to influence the behaviour of the Unions?
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Reply #36 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 4:03pm

Wolseley wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

And exactly how is the leader of the ALP is supposed to be able to influence the behaviour of the Unions?

Well for a start before they let their next union mate get on the taxpayer funded gravy train as an MP they require that union leader to fix up the behaviour of their scumbag union mates.

Just a suggestion.

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Reply #37 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:34pm

Wolseley wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

And exactly how is the leader of the ALP is supposed to be able to influence the behaviour of the Unions?

when ever the Labor party has a conference...

its full to the rafters with every union delegates and official..... so yes they do have some influence....at least thats the theory Roll Eyes

but then your probably right..

its the other way round.

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Reply #38 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:38pm

cods wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:34pm:

Wolseley wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

And exactly how is the leader of the ALP is supposed to be able to influence the behaviour of the Unions?

when ever the Labor party has a conference...

its full to the rafters with every union delegates and official..... so yes they do have some influence....at least thats the theory Roll Eyes

but then your probably right..

its the other way round.

The unions run the ALP (not the other way around).

This has been explained to you dozens of times.

Labor are the party created for, and by, unions.

Moreover, this has never been a secret - ever.

Why do you struggle to understand this very simple fact?

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Re: CFMEU slapped with more than $2 million in fines
Reply #39 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:38pm:

cods wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:34pm:

Wolseley wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

And exactly how is the leader of the ALP is supposed to be able to influence the behaviour of the Unions?

when ever the Labor party has a conference...

its full to the rafters with every union delegates and official..... so yes they do have some influence....at least thats the theory Roll Eyes

but then your probably right..

its the other way round.

The unions run the ALP (not the other way around).

This has been explained to you dozens of times.

Labor are the party created for, and by, unions.

Moreover, this has never been a secret - ever.

Why do you struggle to understand this very simple fact?

You're speaking to the hand with that rusted on , been voting Libtards since granny was around

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Re: CFMEU slapped with more than $2 million in fines
Reply #40 - Mar 15^th, 2016 at 9:43am

Its time wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:38pm:

cods wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:34pm:

Wolseley wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

And exactly how is the leader of the ALP is supposed to be able to influence the behaviour of the Unions?

when ever the Labor party has a conference...

its full to the rafters with every union delegates and official..... so yes they do have some influence....at least thats the theory Roll Eyes

but then your probably right..

its the other way round.

The unions run the ALP (not the other way around).

This has been explained to you dozens of times.

Labor are the party created for, and by, unions.

Moreover, this has never been a secret - ever.

Why do you struggle to understand this very simple fact?

You're speaking to the hand with that rusted on , been voting Libtards since granny was around

I just find it strange that cods seems to think that it's some big secret, or that there's something wrong with it.

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Re: CFMEU slapped with more than $2 million in fines
Reply #41 - Mar 15^th, 2016 at 11:51am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:38pm:

cods wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:34pm:

Wolseley wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

And exactly how is the leader of the ALP is supposed to be able to influence the behaviour of the Unions?

when ever the Labor party has a conference...

its full to the rafters with every union delegates and official..... so yes they do have some influence....at least thats the theory Roll Eyes

but then your probably right..

its the other way round.

The unions run the ALP (not the other way around).

This has been explained to you dozens of times.

Labor are the party created for, and by, unions.

Moreover, this has never been a secret - ever.

Why do you struggle to understand this very simple fact?

It's a bit of both, actually, and if you can't see that, then you're blind AND stupid.

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Re: CFMEU slapped with more than $2 million in fines
Reply #42 - Mar 15^th, 2016 at 11:51am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2016 at 9:43am:

Its time wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:38pm:

cods wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:34pm:

Wolseley wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

And exactly how is the leader of the ALP is supposed to be able to influence the behaviour of the Unions?

when ever the Labor party has a conference...

its full to the rafters with every union delegates and official..... so yes they do have some influence....at least thats the theory Roll Eyes

but then your probably right..

its the other way round.

The unions run the ALP (not the other way around).

This has been explained to you dozens of times.

Labor are the party created for, and by, unions.

Moreover, this has never been a secret - ever.

Why do you struggle to understand this very simple fact?

You're speaking to the hand with that rusted on , been voting Libtards since granny was around

I just find it strange that cods seems to think that it's some big secret, or that there's something wrong with it.

Nothing wrong with businesses lobbying and supporting the Coalition then, right?

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Re: CFMEU slapped with more than $2 million in fines
Reply #43 - Mar 15^th, 2016 at 11:52am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 15^th, 2016 at 11:51am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:38pm:

cods wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:34pm:

Wolseley wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

And exactly how is the leader of the ALP is supposed to be able to influence the behaviour of the Unions?

when ever the Labor party has a conference...

its full to the rafters with every union delegates and official..... so yes they do have some influence....at least thats the theory Roll Eyes

but then your probably right..

its the other way round.

The unions run the ALP (not the other way around).

This has been explained to you dozens of times.

Labor are the party created for, and by, unions.

Moreover, this has never been a secret - ever.

Why do you struggle to understand this very simple fact?

It's a bit of both, actually, and if you can't see that, then you're blind AND stupid.

Incorrect.

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Re: CFMEU slapped with more than $2 million in fines
Reply #44 - Mar 15^th, 2016 at 11:53am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 15^th, 2016 at 11:51am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2016 at 9:43am:

Its time wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:38pm:

cods wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 5:34pm:

Wolseley wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

And exactly how is the leader of the ALP is supposed to be able to influence the behaviour of the Unions?

when ever the Labor party has a conference...

its full to the rafters with every union delegates and official..... so yes they do have some influence....at least thats the theory Roll Eyes

but then your probably right..

its the other way round.

The unions run the ALP (not the other way around).

This has been explained to you dozens of times.

Labor are the party created for, and by, unions.

Moreover, this has never been a secret - ever.

Why do you struggle to understand this very simple fact?

You're speaking to the hand with that rusted on , been voting Libtards since granny was around

I just find it strange that cods seems to think that it's some big secret, or that there's something wrong with it.

Nothing wrong with businesses lobbying and supporting the Coalition then, right?

Right.

Next question.

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