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Warning Of Hospital Funding Crisis
Mar 11th, 2016 at 6:22am
 
AMA calls for urgent health funding as Nepean and Wagga Wagga hospitals reach breaking point

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    March 10, 2016
    Sydney Morning Herald

Hospitals are limiting surgery hours and forcing patients to wait longer for elective procedures as an "economic disaster" looms for them, doctors have warned.   Sad

The Australian Medical Association is calling for an urgent injection of funds for public hospitals, which will come under increased pressure from next year when annual funding increases that had been promised are severed.

The call comes as hospitals in western Sydney and rural NSW claim they are at breaking point.

Nurses at Wagga Wagga Hospital have said they will have to suspend elective surgery unless the state government closes beds that have not been funded.


Emergency physicians at Nepean Hospital told the ABC they were treating patients in chairs because there were not enough beds and people in the emergency room were waiting eight hours to see a doctor.   Sad

The doctors' lobby group is ramping up its rhetoric on hospital funding ahead of the May budget, warning that the full implications of the 2014 budget, when $57 billion was ripped out of health, were yet to be felt.

AMA president Brian Owler said patients with life-threatening conditions such as cancer would wait longer for surgery, while emergency departments would struggle to treat half their sickest patients within 30 minutes.

Already 32 per cent of patients were waiting longer than that to be seen by a doctor.

"That's not just a matter of inconvenience," Professor Owler said.

"That's a matter of increasing their complications because we know that if you have ... patients waiting too long in emergency departments that translates to poorer outcomes."

A good case had been made to raise a tax that was hypothecated for health by increasing the Medicare levy or the GST, Professor Owler said.

But the year-on-year increases promised by the federal government were not enough to keep up with the cost of health, with the demands of an ageing population and advanced technology pushing rises to at least 5 per cent a year.

"Now the only alternative for state and territory governments is to look at the services they provide and start to rationalise the services," Professor Owler said.

"That means they have to look at what outpatient clinics, for instance, they run. Do they invest in extra education programs? Do they say, look we're not going to offer that service anymore? Do they cut their operating list so they finish at 3 o'clock instead of 6 o'clock? Some hospitals already do.

"The rubber starts to hit the road from next year."

Health Minister Sussan Ley said she had acknowledged many times the challenges facing the health system.

"I have also said just pouring more money in, day after day, year after year, without complementary reform, won't necessarily deliver the improved outcomes that we want," Ms Ley said.

"What the Turnbull government is doing is implementing measures to ensure public hospital funding is both sustainable and affordable well into the future.

"Short term, funding for public hospitals is increasing by around 21.5 per cent, or $3.3 billion, over the next four years.

"Longer term, we are working constructively with the states and territories to develop a series of health system reforms based on the Reform of the Federation white paper."

Wagga Wagga Hospital nurses have given their local health district until Tuesday to respond to their demand to close down beds that have not been funded.

The state-of-the-art hospital officially opened in December, but nurses say they have been working overtime because more beds have been opened than the hospital is staffed to attend.

"Nurses are being forced to work ridiculous amounts of overtime, ambulances are being held up, patients at times have been in resuscitation beds that aren't available for resuscitation," Nurses Association lead organiser Linda Griffiths said.   Sad

"It puts everybody in a very awkward, desperate situation."


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Reply #1 - Mar 11th, 2016 at 6:36am
 
What are you all bitching about? None of this matters as long as 'Teflon' has the money for his roads that will do next to nothing.
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Reply #2 - Mar 11th, 2016 at 8:54am
 
Introduce user fees for Hospital services.  Simple.
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Reply #3 - Mar 11th, 2016 at 9:17am
 
macman wrote on Mar 11th, 2016 at 6:36am:
What are you all bitching about? None of this matters as long as 'Teflon' has the money for his roads that will do next to nothing.



.. except create future deadlock while providing nice little earners for a collection of cronies via board and management positions ....

All fixed...

Let's face it the big cities are dead, and soon to begin the dying... and unless we all enter the illegal firearms market we won't have a gun to stand on in a crisis, and all those marauding armed gangs (are they Muslims?) will just take our produce, steal our fine women, and enslave and kill the rest.

Just reading a novel of Middle Ages Saxon England.... few cattle raids, theft of property and women, bit of the olde invasion by the Norse and the Danes, marry off your daughter to cement a dynasty or die nasty ... fifteen hundred years or so to climb out of the open sewer streets and from under the wattle roof and we're headed back there....... and most of us are without the means to self-protect...
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Reply #4 - Mar 11th, 2016 at 9:18am
 
Swagman wrote on Mar 11th, 2016 at 8:54am:
Introduce user fees for Hospital services.  Simple.


Rein in two of the most powerful unions in the country, the AMA and College of Surgeons. Even better.
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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.
 
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Reply #5 - Mar 11th, 2016 at 11:10am
 
Swagman wrote on Mar 11th, 2016 at 8:54am:
Introduce user fees for Hospital services.  Simple.


Remove medicare levy and use your own savings for services.  That's the lib way i suppose.

Seriously can't understand why libs want to live in Australia - if you like being "liberal", go and live in America and enjoy the "lib-like" system. 
Join the working poor slavery rather than the Swag "progressive tax" slavery. 
Join the "no healthcare for all" instead of "healthcare for all".
You like guns?  plenty over there. 
Like trickle down?  Go and see it work (not work really) first hand in the U.S.
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Reply #6 - Mar 11th, 2016 at 11:38am
 
Swagman wrote on Mar 11th, 2016 at 8:54am:
Introduce user fees for Hospital services.  Simple.


Better still. No more negative gearing on existing properties. That should add 4 bill a year to their coffers Wink
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Reply #7 - Mar 12th, 2016 at 12:41pm
 
stunspore wrote on Mar 11th, 2016 at 11:10am:
Swagman wrote on Mar 11th, 2016 at 8:54am:
Introduce user fees for Hospital services.  Simple.


Remove medicare levy and use your own savings for services.  That's the lib way i suppose.

Seriously can't understand why libs want to live in Australia - if you like being "liberal", go and live in America and enjoy the "lib-like" system. 
Join the working poor slavery rather than the Swag "progressive tax" slavery. 
Join the "no healthcare for all" instead of "healthcare for all".
You like guns?  plenty over there. 
Like trickle down?  Go and see it work (not work really) first hand in the U.S.


Who'd pay the taxes then Stun?

You'd lose at least 65% of your tax base..... Grin

The trickle would dry up.... Cheesy
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Reply #8 - Mar 12th, 2016 at 2:41pm
 
3.3 billion over 4 years??

We throw a billion a MONTH down the toilet on interest... and as no-one is even "talking" about getting the original debt down, it will probably continue to get worse.

21% ?? imagine what they could do with the 48 billion over that 4 years if we werent paying (China? not sure who we lent it from)
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Reply #9 - Mar 12th, 2016 at 5:46pm
 
crocodile wrote on Mar 11th, 2016 at 9:18am:
Swagman wrote on Mar 11th, 2016 at 8:54am:
Introduce user fees for Hospital services.  Simple.


Rein in two of the most powerful unions in the country, the AMA and College of Surgeons. Even better.


You mean the Assemblage of Gods and Goddesses?  Never happen....
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Reply #10 - Mar 12th, 2016 at 6:17pm
 
Swagman wrote on Mar 12th, 2016 at 12:41pm:
stunspore wrote on Mar 11th, 2016 at 11:10am:
Swagman wrote on Mar 11th, 2016 at 8:54am:
Introduce user fees for Hospital services.  Simple.


Remove medicare levy and use your own savings for services.  That's the lib way i suppose.

Seriously can't understand why libs want to live in Australia - if you like being "liberal", go and live in America and enjoy the "lib-like" system. 
Join the working poor slavery rather than the Swag "progressive tax" slavery. 
Join the "no healthcare for all" instead of "healthcare for all".
You like guns?  plenty over there. 
Like trickle down?  Go and see it work (not work really) first hand in the U.S.


Who'd pay the taxes then Stun?

You'd lose at least 65% of your tax base..... Grin

The trickle would dry up.... Cheesy


I doubt it.  There can't be that many unAustralians that want to move to U.S.
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