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Reply #165 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:39am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 11:35pm:

The part I find galling in all this is how it is my problem that people who have nothing to do with me or my country turn up on the doorstep unannounced and just demand that we let them in.

Think - if you didn't like the house you lived in and you saw a house in another area better than yours.
Would you go over, thump on the door unannounced and demand to be allowed to live in there too?

If he then said he couldn't let you in - but had arranged with someone else to live in theirs for a period of time - would you then start smashing that place up because its not where you want to be.

We have to take a stance or things get wrecked.

Germany are really starting to feel the folly of their leader ignoring the wishes of the people.

Many Australians do not want these people coming in - they need to ensure they don't, for the sake of our future generations.

Take your feet of the seat, son. You can reapply for your passport when we’re good and ready.

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Reply #166 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 7:58am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 11:35pm:

The part I find galling in all this is how it is my problem that people who have nothing to do with me or my country turn up on the doorstep unannounced and just demand that we let them in.

who says they were unannounced?

your country invited them, delivery of said invite was by air mail via one of their smart bombs.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39715 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #167 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 9:47am Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:31am: According to the article the Navy didn't give any money to the fishermen. Yeas.......someone on Board, not in the Navy, did.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #168 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 9:56am Aussie wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 9:47am: Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:31am: According to the article the Navy didn't give any money to the fishermen. Yeas.......someone on Board, not in the Navy, did. Perhaps the fisherman pulled up the USD in their fishing nets , sounds logical
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #169 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 10:01am Boats still coming because the smugglers know even if they don't make it the Libs will pay them to turn back , when the Libs talk about economic refugees are they actually referring to skippers, our Navy, under the libs instruction , are paying to turn around.
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Reply #170 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 10:26am

Its time wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 10:01am:

Boats still coming because the smugglers know even if they don't make it the Libs will pay them to turn back , when the Libs talk about economic refugees are they actually referring to skippers, our Navy, under the libs instruction , are paying to turn around.

Yet the government didn't pay anyone to turn that boat around in Indonesian waters. The Navy gave some food, fuel, water and life jackets to the fisherman who picked up the illegals. Nothing wrong with that. If the Navy had taken them to Australia, it would've been accused of kidnapping/piracy, because they'd have been taken from Indonesian waters. So the Navy did the right thing entirely!

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Reply #171 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 11:36am

Its time wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 10:01am:

Boats still coming because the smugglers know even if they don't make it the Libs will pay them to turn back , when the Libs talk about economic refugees are they actually referring to skippers, our Navy, under the libs instruction , are paying to turn around.

This shows how little you and others know about this issue, if you availed yourself of the facts then you would know that paying the crews not to proceed with their human cargo is the easiest way to ensure the trade is stopped permanently. I dont know whether the Australian government is paying the crews to turn back or not, but if they are it is a very smart thing to do.

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Reply #172 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 11:45am

ian wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

Its time wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 10:01am:

Boats still coming because the smugglers know even if they don't make it the Libs will pay them to turn back , when the Libs talk about economic refugees are they actually referring to skippers, our Navy, under the libs instruction , are paying to turn around.

This shows how little you and others know about this issue, if you availed yourself of the facts then you would know that paying the crews not to proceed with their human cargo is the easiest way to ensure the trade is stopped permanently. I dont know whether the Australian government is paying the crews to turn back or not, but if they are it is a very smart thing to do.

More importantly, it saves lives.

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Reply #173 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:10pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

ian wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

Its time wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 10:01am:

Boats still coming because the smugglers know even if they don't make it the Libs will pay them to turn back , when the Libs talk about economic refugees are they actually referring to skippers, our Navy, under the libs instruction , are paying to turn around.

This shows how little you and others know about this issue, if you availed yourself of the facts then you would know that paying the crews not to proceed with their human cargo is the easiest way to ensure the trade is stopped permanently. I dont know whether the Australian government is paying the crews to turn back or not, but if they are it is a very smart thing to do.

More importantly, it saves lives.

yes, this policy has saved a lot of lives. There have been no drownings of refugees attempting to cross from Indonesia since it started. It has been an outstanding success.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #174 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:14pm ian wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:10pm: yes, this policy has saved a lot of lives ha s it? or did they take an alternate route to Europe instead and drown there instead?
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Reply #175 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:34pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

ian wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

yes, this policy has saved a lot of lives

ha s it? or did they take an alternate route to Europe instead and drown there instead?

Not unless they left Indonesia, went back to their homeland and then decided to cross into Europe. Do you think thats probable?

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 28516 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #176 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:47pm John Smith wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:14pm: ian wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:10pm: yes, this policy has saved a lot of lives ha s it? or did they take an alternate route to Europe instead and drown there instead? Our government is not responsible for what happens in Europe.
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Reply #177 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 4:31pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

ian wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

yes, this policy has saved a lot of lives

ha s it? or did they take an alternate route to Europe instead and drown there instead?

Our government is not responsible.

True.

They are one of the most irresponsible governments this country has ever seen.

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Reply #178 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 4:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

ian wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

yes, this policy has saved a lot of lives

ha s it? or did they take an alternate route to Europe instead and drown there instead?

Our government is not responsible.

True.

They are one of the most irresponsible governments this country has ever seen.

Not as irresponsible as the last pack of idiots who let all those people drown.

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Reply #179 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 6:07pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 4:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 4:31pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

ian wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

yes, this policy has saved a lot of lives

ha s it? or did they take an alternate route to Europe instead and drown there instead?

Our government is not responsible.

True.

They are one of the most irresponsible governments this country has ever seen.

Not as irresponsible as the last pack of idiots who let all those people drown.

Let's not forget the traumatic toll Labor's incompetence took on RAN & Customs personnel who had to retrieve the bodies from the sea and those who were nearly killed when a people smuggling boat exploded beneath them.

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