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Reply #150 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

And what is wrong wit that? If queue jumpers can pay people smugglers then it's obviously OK to pay people to get what you want.

1. there's no queue.

2. it's not illegal for asylum seekers to pay people smugglers.

You don't really know much about this subject, do you Sore End?

1. Australia say there is a queue - its refugee quota.

2. It's not illegal to take your sorry Iranian arse to Nauru or Manus Island because you thought it's not illegal to pay people smugglers.

There you go gweggy, everyone is right. We are right here in Australia and them queue jumpin' asylum seekin' fake refugees are ALSO right in offshore detention.
Win Win. We are all in agreement. Ain't that noice. Kumbaya, what??

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Reply #151 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:41pm

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

And what is wrong wit that? If queue jumpers can pay people smugglers then it's obviously OK to pay people to get what you want.

1. there's no queue.

2. it's not illegal for asylum seekers to pay people smugglers.

You don't really know much about this subject, do you Sore End?

1. Australia say there is a queue - its refugee quota.

A quota is not a queue.

You struggle with the actual meaning of words, don't you Sore End?

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #152 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:44pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:32pm: Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:30pm: So keeping them offshore for ever is correct. Even if it involves child abuse. Nice going, Sore End. THey are abusing they own children. They do that wherever they are.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #153 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:46pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:37pm: Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:31pm: No queue? What are those people in Nauru queueing for then? That's correct: there's no queue. How many times do you wish to go over this? Sooooo .... what are those people in Nauru queueing for? Coconuts?
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Reply #154 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:48pm

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:46pm:

ian wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Most refugees do sail past multiple chances for a new life to settle in the best countries.

Who could blame them?

Who cares? The bottom line is the people smuggling trade is reprehensible and and legally and morally wrong. Allowing people to buy their way in perpetuates the trade. Australia can and does allow refugees in anyway so its a moot point.

Abbott paid people smugglers.

He should have aimed the guns at them and counted to three. Could have saved a lot of money.

Coming to Australia by boat from Indonesia is a racketr and it is and must be treated as a racket.

They are lucky not to be all shot into the water.

Imagine - 'turn back or we will shoot'. And then shoot if they don't turn back.

Defending one's borders from unauthorised and unwanted breaches. Every boat leaving Indonesian waters without authorisation should be treated as a hostile act by Indonesia - which is what they are. They are lucky to be turned back and not gunned down.

This is Australia, not gaza strip

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150851 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #155 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:51pm Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:46pm: Sooooo .... what are those people in Nauru queueing for? Coconuts? They aren't in a queue.
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Reply #156 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:51pm

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:32pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

So keeping them offshore for ever is correct.

Even if it involves child abuse.

Nice going, Sore End.

THey are abusing they own children. They do that wherever they are.

Are you sure?

You've been wrong about everything else tonight.

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Reply #157 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:55pm

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:13pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

Executive summary: Queue jumper? F Vck orf.

More astounding ignorance.

There is no queue.

Really?

How come then that 12,000 Syrians are brought here while all those illegals are in Nauru and Manus?

I tell you how come. The illegals opted for the wrong queue. And now they known it.

The other queue always moves faster - and don't they know it!!!!

80 only arrived so far last i heard , you think the Libs will actually honor their pledge to take 12000?

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Reply #158 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 11:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:41pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

And what is wrong wit that? If queue jumpers can pay people smugglers then it's obviously OK to pay people to get what you want.

1. there's no queue.

2. it's not illegal for asylum seekers to pay people smugglers.

You don't really know much about this subject, do you Sore End?

1. Australia say there is a queue - its refugee quota.

A quota is not a queue.

Why not?

I think it is precisely a queue - you get here when your place in that quota says its your turn. It is a queue that the Australian people have marked out and assigned a place to you in it. It is NOT your decision to take a place in that queue, it is the Australian people's. when you are told to stop trying to crash into the queue you are take to offshore detention. Nauru and PNG detention mean that you have been a gate crasher despite being warned about that kind of behaviour and you are not tolerated because you ignored the warning.

You were told where the queue was and you continued to pretend that here was no queue - so now you are in offshore detention.

Gweg, YOU and your stupid ilk have been shafting these people and you ENJOY doing it because it gives you the opportunity to rubbish your own people and elected governments and so you have been luring these queue jumpers into the false belief that there is ' no queue'. And so now they are in offshore detention. Nothing is a too great a price for your lefty fascists because YOU are not paying the price. You will sacrifice any and all to your toxic and destructive ideology and mindless sloganeering.

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Reply #159 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 11:06pm

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 11:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:41pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

And what is wrong wit that? If queue jumpers can pay people smugglers then it's obviously OK to pay people to get what you want.

1. there's no queue.

2. it's not illegal for asylum seekers to pay people smugglers.

You don't really know much about this subject, do you Sore End?

1. Australia say there is a queue - its refugee quota.

A quota is not a queue.

Why not?

They are two different things, that's why.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #160 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 11:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:51pm: Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:46pm: Sooooo .... what are those people in Nauru queueing for? Coconuts? They aren't in a queue. Well, not NOW, they aren't - they will never settle here. Thanks, gweg, you have done it.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150851 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #161 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 11:14pm Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 11:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:51pm: Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 10:46pm: Sooooo .... what are those people in Nauru queueing for? Coconuts? They aren't in a queue. Well, not NOW, they aren't Correct.
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #162 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 11:17pm Anyone who enters Australia legally does so in a queue, including those on tourist visas. how very stupid to suggest there is no queue. If there is no queue, then anyone can enter anytime. why would we even have a visa system if there is no queue? How very , very stupid to think there is no queue.
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Reply #163 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 11:18pm

ian wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 11:17pm:

Anyone who enters Australia legally does so in a queue, including those on tourist visas. how very stupid to suggest there is no queue. If there is no queue, then anyone can enter anytime. why would we even have a visa system if there is no queue? How very , very stupid to think there is no queue.

Incorrect.

On so many levels.

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Reply #164 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 11:35pm

The part I find galling in all this is how it is my problem that people who have nothing to do with me or my country turn up on the doorstep unannounced and just demand that we let them in.

Think - if you didn't like the house you lived in and you saw a house in another area better than yours.
Would you go over, thump on the door unannounced and demand to be allowed to live in there too?

If he then said he couldn't let you in - but had arranged with someone else to live in theirs for a period of time - would you then start smashing that place up because its not where you want to be.

We have to take a stance or things get wrecked.

Germany are really starting to feel the folly of their leader ignoring the wishes of the people.

Many Australians do not want these people coming in - they need to ensure they don't, for the sake of our future generations.

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