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Reply #15 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:31am

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:27am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

If our government has paid the crews to turn back then whats the issue?

it's illegal to pay people smugglers.

They paid fisherman. Read the article properly.

to transport people to another country ....

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Reply #16 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:36am

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:27am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

If our government has paid the crews to turn back then whats the issue?

it's illegal to pay people smugglers.

They paid fisherman. Read the article properly.

to transport people to another country ....

They still didn't pay people smugglers like you just posted. They gave provisions to a fishing boat to take them back to Indonesia because their boat sank. The Australian Navy actually saved their lives.

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Reply #17 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:38am

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:36am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:27am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

If our government has paid the crews to turn back then whats the issue?

it's illegal to pay people smugglers.

They paid fisherman. Read the article properly.

to transport people to another country ....

They still didn't pay people smugglers like you just posted. They gave provisions to a fishing boat to take them back to Indonesia because their boat sank. The Australian Navy actually saved their lives.

The boat sank in Indonesian waters I might add. The Australian Navy braved a diplomatic issue to save these people.

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Reply #18 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:46am

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:38am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:36am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:27am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

If our government has paid the crews to turn back then whats the issue?

it's illegal to pay people smugglers.

They paid fisherman. Read the article properly.

to transport people to another country ....

They still didn't pay people smugglers like you just posted. They gave provisions to a fishing boat to take them back to Indonesia because their boat sank. The Australian Navy actually saved their lives.

The boat sank in Indonesian waters I might add. The Australian Navy braved a diplomatic issue to save these people.

The indos must be upset we're trotting around in their waters .

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Reply #19 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:47am

Its time wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:46am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:38am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:36am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:27am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

If our government has paid the crews to turn back then whats the issue?

it's illegal to pay people smugglers.

They paid fisherman. Read the article properly.

to transport people to another country ....

They still didn't pay people smugglers like you just posted. They gave provisions to a fishing boat to take them back to Indonesia because their boat sank. The Australian Navy actually saved their lives.

The boat sank in Indonesian waters I might add. The Australian Navy braved a diplomatic issue to save these people.

The indos must be upset we're trotting around in their waters .

They would have drowned otherwise. Where was the Indonesian Navy?

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Reply #20 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 11:15am

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

If our government has paid the crews to turn back then whats the issue?

it's illegal to pay people smugglers.

and? Thats your sole, reason? The crew on the boats are technically people smugglers, yes. But they are at the bottom of the food chain, generally poverty stricken Indonesian villagers from remote areas, used as dupes by the organisers and paid very little. Paying these people not to deliver their human cargo if it happened is a very smart move as it breaks the organisers model.

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Reply #21 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 11:17am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 8:21am:

macman wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 8:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 8:03am:

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

macman wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:29am:

The whole story makes no sense to me. There's something missing there. No way would the fishermen do that without some incentive besides water and food. One day the truth about all these incidents at sea will be revealed and we can be more ashamed of our government than we are now.

If our government has paid the crews to turn back then whats the issue? I dont get it, its working, the people smuggling model is broken. Win/win.

That's why the left wing nutjob brigade is upset - the Coalition is doing something right and making tgem look like the incompetent fools that they are.

My concern is with being continually lied to by the libs. If there is no issue with paying people smugglers, why hide it?

Because if they advertise the fact, then tomorrow we'll have 50 fishing boats heading toward us with people posing as illegal immigrants just so boat skippers can pocket some cash.

wont happen. The crew were allegedly paid, not the human cargo.

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Reply #22 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 11:18am

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

macman wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:29am:

The whole story makes no sense to me. There's something missing there. No way would the fishermen do that without some incentive besides water and food. One day the truth about all these incidents at sea will be revealed and we can be more ashamed of our government than we are now.

If our government has paid the crews to turn back then whats the issue? I dont get it, its working, the people smuggling model is broken. Win/win.

Might work out cheaper than paying these country shopping economic migrants Centrelink benefits for the rest of their lives along with dept of housing subsidy.

Bob Carr called them economic migrants.

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Reply #23 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 1:42pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:36am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:31am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:27am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

If our government has paid the crews to turn back then whats the issue?

it's illegal to pay people smugglers.

They paid fisherman. Read the article properly.

to transport people to another country ....

They still didn't pay people smugglers like you just posted. They gave provisions to a fishing boat to take them back to Indonesia because their boat sank. The Australian Navy actually saved their lives.

like i posted? where did I post that exactly?

Ian asked what the issue was, I told him. That rightards are happy to continually disregard the law when it suits them is a poor reflection on you, not me.

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Reply #24 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 1:43pm

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 11:15am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

If our government has paid the crews to turn back then whats the issue?

it's illegal to pay people smugglers.

and? Thats your sole, reason? The crew on the boats are technically people smugglers, yes. But they are at the bottom of the food chain, generally poverty stricken Indonesian villagers from remote areas, used as dupes by the organisers and paid very little. Paying these people not to deliver their human cargo if it happened is a very smart move as it breaks the organisers model.

it's also my sole reason for not shooting certain people.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #25 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 1:47pm You're trying valiantly to make something out of nothing John. We've been there and both sides of politics support it. Whatever it takes to stop them or you can have a Rudd scenario again. Would that be preferable to you? You'd get on well with Angela Merkel.
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Reply #26 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 2:20pm

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 1:47pm:

You're trying valiantly to make something out of nothing John.
We've been there and both sides of politics support it.

Whatever it takes to stop them or you can have a Rudd scenario again. Would that be preferable to you?

You'd get on well with Angela Merkel.

what point am I making boges? Ian asked what the issue was, and I told him. You can disregard it all you like, it doesn't change anything. It is still illegal.

My personal opinion is that both labor and the libs have got it wrong.

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Reply #27 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 3:32pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 1:43pm:

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 11:15am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

If our government has paid the crews to turn back then whats the issue?

it's illegal to pay people smugglers.

and? Thats your sole, reason? The crew on the boats are technically people smugglers, yes. But they are at the bottom of the food chain, generally poverty stricken Indonesian villagers from remote areas, used as dupes by the organisers and paid very little. Paying these people not to deliver their human cargo if it happened is a very smart move as it breaks the organisers model.

it's also my sole reason for not shooting certain people.

I doubt it. I can also guarantee that you break the law every day in some way, just like everybody else.

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Reply #28 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 6:21pm

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 3:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 1:43pm:

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 11:15am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

ian wrote on Mar 11^th, 2016 at 7:44am:

If our government has paid the crews to turn back then whats the issue?

it's illegal to pay people smugglers.

and? Thats your sole, reason? The crew on the boats are technically people smugglers, yes. But they are at the bottom of the food chain, generally poverty stricken Indonesian villagers from remote areas, used as dupes by the organisers and paid very little. Paying these people not to deliver their human cargo if it happened is a very smart move as it breaks the organisers model.

it's also my sole reason for not shooting certain people.

I doubt it. I can also guarantee that you break the law every day in some way, just like everybody else.

..well, ..so,.. anarchy is the goal then now is it? Shocked

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Reply #29 - Mar 11^th, 2016 at 6:55pm

The crew of the people smuggling boat were paid by the illegals who wanted to come here. The governmwnt gave no money to the smugglers OR the fishermen who took them back to Indonesia. The government paid no one anything. The navy just provided rice, water, fuel and life jackets. That's all. No laws were broken - real or imagined.

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