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Reply #105 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:30pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 1:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

I suppose a $15,000US people smuggling ticket gives one more scope to pick and choose.

Yes: money gets you a long way in this world.

Wouldn't you strive for the very best, if you could afford it?

Or, are you happy to just settle for second best?

If I didn't feel safe in my country I wouldn't be thinking about the best country. I'd be thinking about my safety.

really? so you wouldn't take into consideration the fact that the next country might see you and your kids in a camp for the next 20 years, with little food, no career prospects, no education and no future? you'd just close your eyes and run blindly?

Actually, come to think of it, I'd believe that you would. .. you're a rightie. you live for here and now. the future doesn't ever come into your thoughts.

Real refugees don't have the luxury of picking salvation and determining it's 5 star rating.

why? it's not that hard to pick a good country. It doesn't take a genius to work out that the countries that consistently rate in the top 3 'best countries to live in' will attract asylum seekers. YOu do realise that they do read, write and watch tv just the same as you do , right? Cheesy

Most refugees do sail past multiple chances for a new life to settle in the best countries. Most of the worlds real refugees footslog it to a border refugee camp and live in a shanty. There's multiple millions of them worldwide.

don't sail past

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Reply #106 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:31pm

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:18pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:13pm:

You look at history - the Greeks and the Italians have had a positive influence everywhere.

yeah yeah ... that's not what the rabid right were saying at the time. Back then the headlines were all about importing criminal mafiosi, thieves and murders.

In 30 years time, you'll be crying about those coming from Africa and telling us how great the muslims have assimilated Cheesy

The mafia you can control. Jihad you can't.

No need to control Jihad, we don't have it in Australia.

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Reply #107 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:33pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 1:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 12:46pm:

I suppose a $15,000US people smuggling ticket gives one more scope to pick and choose.

Yes: money gets you a long way in this world.

Wouldn't you strive for the very best, if you could afford it?

Or, are you happy to just settle for second best?

If I didn't feel safe in my country I wouldn't be thinking about the best country. I'd be thinking about my safety.

really? so you wouldn't take into consideration the fact that the next country might see you and your kids in a camp for the next 20 years, with little food, no career prospects, no education and no future? you'd just close your eyes and run blindly?

Actually, come to think of it, I'd believe that you would. .. you're a rightie. you live for here and now. the future doesn't ever come into your thoughts.

Real refugees don't have the luxury of picking salvation and determining it's 5 star rating.

why? it's not that hard to pick a good country. It doesn't take a genius to work out that the countries that consistently rate in the top 3 'best countries to live in' will attract asylum seekers. YOu do realise that they do read, write and watch tv just the same as you do , right? Cheesy

Most refugees do sail past multiple chances for a new life to settle in the best countries. Most of the worlds real refugees footslog it to a border refugee camp and live in a shanty. There's multiple millions of them worldwide.

and? no one says they can't sail past. Last time I went to Europe I flew over about 40 countries ... should I have stopped at each of them?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 150851 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #108 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:34pm Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:28pm: Most refugees do sail past multiple chances for a new life to settle in the best countries. Who could blame them?
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #109 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:36pm Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:18pm: WHY is there a 'Muslim community' if you can't tell the difference between Muslims and everyone else? Articulate. Explain. Greggary claimed he can tell a Muslim just by looking at them.
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #110 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:36pm We've talked about this a million times guys. I smell a rat as many people do. I don't trust asylum seekers having $20,000US to give to a criminal.
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Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame
Reply #111 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:38pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

We've talked about this a million times guys. I smell a rat as many people do. I don't trust asylum seekers having $20,000US to give to a criminal.

A multi-billionaire can be an asylum seeker.

It has nothing to do with one's wealth.

So, having established that fact, why wouldn't you trust an asylum seeker with money?

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Reply #112 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:41pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:18pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:13pm:

You look at history - the Greeks and the Italians have had a positive influence everywhere.

yeah yeah ... that's not what the rabid right were saying at the time. Back then the headlines were all about importing criminal mafiosi, thieves and murders.

In 30 years time, you'll be crying about those coming from Africa and telling us how great the muslims have assimilated Cheesy

The mafia you can control. Jihad you can't.

No need to control Jihad, we don't have it in Australia.

You lefty mongs will lie, as you do here, just to avoid uncomfortable truths.

OF COURSE there is jihad in Australia. There is jihad everywhere that Muslims live.

For you to say that there is no jihad in Australia is to deal yourself out of any discussion as a completely stupid, wilfully uninformed,wilfully idiotic parrot who utters without having any thought, idea or comprehension thereof.

A cazzo, in a word.

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Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame
Reply #113 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:41pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

I don't trust asylum seekers having $20,000US to give to a criminal.

Why? you realise that as soon as their is civil unrest, the rich are the first to be targeted?

My cousin married someone who's family ran from Saddam when he first took control. Before that they had exclusive rights to import Mercs in Iraq. An oil rich country and every Merc went through them. Should they have pretended to be poor?

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #114 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:34pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:28pm: Most refugees do sail past multiple chances for a new life to settle in the best countries. Who could blame them? Fine - sail to Nauru and enjoy.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame Reply #115 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:42pm Soren wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:41pm: OF COURSE there is jihad in Australia. no, I'm talking about the real Australia, not that imaginary place you have in your head.
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Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame
Reply #116 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Most refugees do sail past multiple chances for a new life to settle in the best countries.

Who could blame them?

Who cares? The bottom line is the people smuggling trade is reprehensible and and legally and morally wrong. Allowing people to buy their way in perpetuates the trade. Australia can and does allow refugees in anyway so its a moot point.

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Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame
Reply #117 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:44pm

ian wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Most refugees do sail past multiple chances for a new life to settle in the best countries.

Who could blame them?

Who cares? The bottom line is the people smuggling trade is reprehensible and and legally and morally wrong. Allowing people to buy their way in perpetuates the trade. Australia can and does allow refugees in anyway so its a moot point.

So, what's QANTAS when they fly them in and get paid for it?

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Re: Paying the boats to stop shame shame shame
Reply #118 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:45pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

I don't trust asylum seekers having $20,000US to give to a criminal.

Why? you realise that as soon as their is civil unrest, the rich are the first to be targeted?

My cousin married someone who's family ran from Saddam when he first took control. Before that they had exclusive rights to import Mercs in Iraq. An oil rich country and every Merc went through them. Should they have pretended to be poor?

Why is it that rightards always "think" that asylum seekers have to be poor?

Seriously - where did that nonsense come from?

Why are they so ignorant to the facts?

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Reply #119 - Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:46pm

ian wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Most refugees do sail past multiple chances for a new life to settle in the best countries.

Who could blame them?

Who cares? The bottom line is the people smuggling trade is reprehensible and and legally and morally wrong. Allowing people to buy their way in perpetuates the trade. Australia can and does allow refugees in anyway so its a moot point.

Abbott paid people smugglers.

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