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Reply #15 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:14am

cods wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 9:52am:

macman wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 9:39am:

cods wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 9:32am:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/andrew-bolt/vile-attack-on-peta-cr...

a funny thing happened on the way to the publishers.. Grin

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Credlin is the target of journalist Niki Savva, who obsessively attacked her as a columnist on The Australian and now savages her in her book, The Road to Ruin, purporting to explain why the Abbott government fell.

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But there’s more. Six years ago Savva wrote another book in which she confessed that “as a journalist I lied often, usually about my sources, but about other things, too”.

She admitted she had a rule that politicians were either sources or targets and that “I learned to slice and dice anyone who … spoke to others and not me”.

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They knew Savva was no friend. As Savva wrote in 2010, she was even then keeping a “loser’s file” of cuttings on Abbott, someone from whom she’d “recoiled in horror at the prospect of (being) leader”.

sounds like savva has a bigger reason for this book and having it released NOW..

at least we knew Mark Latham was a bitter soul...

this person pretends to be impartial...at least isnt that what a journo is meant to be?..

You are seriously asking us that question after quoting Bolt from the Smellograph? Grin

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I fully expected a leftie to bring that up/

but you guys claim he is a columnist not a journo..

you cant have it both ways.. Grin

What is savva?

You playing semantics mrs metho drinker??

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Reply #16 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:19am

lee wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:03am:

“Rightly or wrongly, the perception is that you are sleeping with your chief of staff. That’s the perception, and you need to deal with it.”

So perceptions become facts? Unbelievable.

No, but perception is everything especially in politics, from the author you all wish to think solely is focused on sexual innuendo

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One former staffer compared their relationship to that of King Edward III and American socialite Wallis Simpson, who were famously “slavishly dependent” on each other.

“This was not meant to imply an affair; it was meant to describe the depth of the dependence, the consuming obsession, and what Abbott was prepared to sacrifice for it,” Savva wrote.

“Like King Edward VIII, who gave up his throne because he could not do the job without Wallis by his side, Abbott had convinced himself he could not do it without Credlin. Ultimately, it cost him the highest office in the land.”

They both seemed to agree Abbott could not perform as prime minister without Ms Credlin by his side.
In the end, they went down together.

But let's keep the focus on dicks

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Reply #17 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:26am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

lee wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:03am:

“Rightly or wrongly, the perception is that you are sleeping with your chief of staff. That’s the perception, and you need to deal with it.”

So perceptions become facts? Unbelievable.

No, but perception is everything especially in politics, from the author you all wish to think solely is focused on sexual innuendo

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One former staffer compared their relationship to that of King Edward III and American socialite Wallis Simpson, who were famously “slavishly dependent” on each other.

“This was not meant to imply an affair; it was meant to describe the depth of the dependence, the consuming obsession, and what Abbott was prepared to sacrifice for it,” Savva wrote.

“Like King Edward VIII, who gave up his throne because he could not do the job without Wallis by his side, Abbott had convinced himself he could not do it without Credlin. Ultimately, it cost him the highest office in the land.”

They both seemed to agree Abbott could not perform as prime minister without Ms Credlin by his side.
In the end, they went down together.

But let's keep the focus on dicks

Since Edward III died in 1377, Mrs Simpson must have been incredibly old when she finally passed in 1986.

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Reply #18 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:30am

lee wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:13am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:03am:

“Rightly or wrongly, the perception is that you are sleeping with your chief of staff. That’s the perception, and you need to deal with it.”

So perceptions become facts? Unbelievable.

Fierravanti-Wells has even confirmed that she indeed had this conversation with Tony Abbott. Really, what has Savva done that is so awful. Seriously, we all know why Abbott fell on his sword without reading Savva's book.

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Reply #19 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:33am

crocodile wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:30am:

Fierravanti-Wells has even confirmed that she indeed had this conversation with Tony Abbott. Really, what has Savva done that is so awful. Seriously, we all know why Abbott fell on his sword without reading Savva's book.

So "Fierravanti-Wells has even confirmed that she indeed had this conversation with Tony Abbott". Does it change its meaning from perceptions to fact?

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Reply #20 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:37am

crocodile wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:26am:

Since Edward III died in 1377, Mrs Simpson must have been incredibly old when she finally passed in 1986.

'Edward VIII (Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David; 23 June 1894 – 28 May 1972) was King of the United Kingdom and the Dominions of the British Empire, and Emperor of India, from 20 January 1936 until his abdication on 11 December the same year.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VIII

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Reply #21 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:45am

lee wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:37am:

crocodile wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:26am:

Since Edward III died in 1377, Mrs Simpson must have been incredibly old when she finally passed in 1986.

'Edward VIII (Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David; 23 June 1894 – 28 May 1972) was King of the United Kingdom and the Dominions of the British Empire, and Emperor of India, from 20 January 1936 until his abdication on 11 December the same year.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VIII

Yes, that is true for Edward VIII. The original transcript is out by 5 Edwards. Edward III and Mrs Simpson lived 600 years apart.

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Reply #22 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:48am

lee wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:33am:

crocodile wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:30am:

Fierravanti-Wells has even confirmed that she indeed had this conversation with Tony Abbott. Really, what has Savva done that is so awful. Seriously, we all know why Abbott fell on his sword without reading Savva's book.

So "Fierravanti-Wells has even confirmed that she indeed had this conversation with Tony Abbott". Does it change its meaning from perceptions to fact?

It doesn't change the meaning at all. Savva never claimed it as fact. She only made note that Fierravanti-Wells spoke to the PM regarding the subject. She spoke the truth.

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Reply #23 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:49am

lee wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:33am:

crocodile wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:30am:

Fierravanti-Wells has even confirmed that she indeed had this conversation with Tony Abbott. Really, what has Savva done that is so awful. Seriously, we all know why Abbott fell on his sword without reading Savva's book.

So "Fierravanti-Wells has even confirmed that she indeed had this conversation with Tony Abbott". Does it change its meaning from perceptions to fact?

I'm not understanding your line of thought.

No one has said Abbott & Credlin WERE having an affair, so no facts are involved or needed.

The actual facts are that their relationship was so intertwined that it could be perceived they were, Cods implied it was gossip with no source or basis in fact & I pointed out that it was not an unnamed rumour but a piece of history confirmed with a name & actual quote from source.

The "fact" is they were perceived to be sleeping together, not if the actually were or not.

But hey let's keep playing word semantics because as Cods said this is a thread on the credentials of Savva.

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Savva has worked as a correspondent in the Canberra Press Gallery, for The Australian newspaper and for the Herald Sun and The Age. She's also worked as the Washington correspondent for News Ltd. She now writes for The Australian and appears regularly as a panelist on ABC Insiders.[1]

She worked as press secretary to the Australian Treasurer, Peter Costello in the Howard Government, for six years, before working on Prime Minister John Howard's staff for three.[2]

Savva is married to Vince Savva, a Liberal political staffer in the office of Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.[3]

They seem pretty solid to me.

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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: gossip about SAVVA Reply #24 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:49am Quote: Savva, too, has possible vested interests she has been reluctant to disclose. Her husband is on Turnbull’s staff — a fact Savva angrily insists is irrelevant. why would anyone quote this self interested and self confessed liar? what a joke...
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: gossip about SAVVA Reply #25 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:52am Good on you SAVVA for reporting the facts , ignore the rightard lynch mob
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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6382 Australia Gender:	Re: gossip about SAVVA Reply #26 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 12:10pm Its time wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 11:52am: Good on you SAVVA for reporting the facts , ignore the rightard lynch mob She's a Greek-Cypriot lying arsehole and a self-confessed one at that!
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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: gossip about SAVVA Reply #27 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 2:30pm She's one ugly looking broad. Who, older than 6 wears a fringe?
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: gossip about SAVVA Reply #28 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 2:40pm So a person's worth is judged by their looks & hairstyle You phu ckers aren't even trying anymore
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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: gossip about SAVVA Reply #29 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 2:44pm Yes! Unless you are a female you wouldn't comprehend!
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