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A house divided against itself cannot stand
Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:33am
 
The Federal Liberals are in disarray. Allegations against Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull appearing to lose control of the direction of his Party. Ministerial resignations it's all there.

The worst thing the Libs did to themselves was to assassinate their leader Tony Abbott.

You may not have liked him but there is no mistake he was a leader, Malcolm Turnbull isn't.

Is the impossible going to happen, is little Bill Shorten, shortening in the odds?

He is not a Leader's boot strap..Lord help us all!
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Re: A house divided against itself cannot stand
Reply #1 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:39am
 
No Howard Minister visited the mine when those two miners were trapped. Shorten was there.

Shorten is releasing policy, the government isn’t.

Shorten will do me.

A lot of people were and are disparaging about Treasurer Swan yet he oversaw a $180Bn fiscal consolidation.

Shorten will do me as PM until and unless he proves otherwise.
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Re: A house divided against itself cannot stand
Reply #2 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:43am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:39am:
No Howard Minister visited the mine when those two miners were trapped. Shorten was there.

Shorten is releasing policy, the government isn’t.

Shorten will do me.

A lot of people were and are disparaging about Treasurer Swan yet he oversaw a $180Bn fiscal consolidation.

Shorten will do me as PM until and unless he proves otherwise.



Well there you go decision made..Now the retards can go back to who,s phucking who and who,s not paying Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: A house divided against itself cannot stand
Reply #3 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:47am
 
bwood1946 wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:43am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:39am:
No Howard Minister visited the mine when those two miners were trapped. Shorten was there.

Shorten is releasing policy, the government isn’t.

Shorten will do me.

A lot of people were and are disparaging about Treasurer Swan yet he oversaw a $180Bn fiscal consolidation.

Shorten will do me as PM until and unless he proves otherwise.



Well there you go decision made..Now the retards can go back to who,s phucking who and who,s not paying Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Durp durp diddly durp  what ?
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Re: A house divided against itself cannot stand
Reply #4 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:00am
 
red baron wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:33am:
You may not have lied liked him but there is no mistake he was a leader, Malcolm Turnbull isn't.

You have apparently missed the news that Abbott's leadership was so dysfunctional that Credlin was doing everything for him including breaching protocol and national security.

Abbott was manifestly unsuitable for the job of Prime Minister. It is a shame that we had to put up with two years of Abbott leading the government to learn that.

Abbott was a bumbling fool who couldn't answer questions from the media without careful preparation. This is why he avoided media scrutiny as much as possible. He had numerous other shortcomings. The only people who really followed Abbott were those who did it out of morbid curiosity.

Turnbull's weaknesses are also showing. His honeymoon is clearly over. His satisfaction rating has plunged since December. This loss of support is showing no signs of slowing, and he is taking the Coalition's support with it. Turnbull could be facing a September election with approval ratings much the same as they were in November 2009 shortly before he got rolled by Abbott. The voters saw through him in 2009 and there's every chance that they could do so again before a September election. That is why the government are talking up an early election - they know that if Turnbull had an extra two or three months in the job his shortcomings will be more apparent to the voters.

Meanwhile Shorten's ratings have steadily improved since December. Releasing policy has helped Shorten. The Shorten-led ALP are behaving like a Government - releasing policy - and the Abbott-Turnbull government are behaving like an Opposition - not releasing policy and trying the small-target strategy. This could well portend the fate of both if Shorten were to lead the ALP back into government.
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Reply #5 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:02am
 
Its time wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:47am:
bwood1946 wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:43am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:39am:
No Howard Minister visited the mine when those two miners were trapped. Shorten was there.

Shorten is releasing policy, the government isn’t.

Shorten will do me.

A lot of people were and are disparaging about Treasurer Swan yet he oversaw a $180Bn fiscal consolidation.

Shorten will do me as PM until and unless he proves otherwise.



Well there you go decision made..Now the retards can go back to who,s phucking who and who,s not paying Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Durp durp diddly durp  what ?

Best not feed the trolls.
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Reply #6 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:14am
 
red baron wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:33am:
The Federal Liberals are in disarray. Allegations against Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull appearing to lose control of the direction of his Party. Ministerial resignations it's all there.

The worst thing the Libs did to themselves was to assassinate their leader Tony Abbott.

You may not have lied him but there is no mistake he was a leader, Malcolm Turnbull isn't.

Is the impossible going to happen, is little Bill Shorten, shortening in the odds?

He is not a Leader's boot strap..Lord help us all!



of course it was... I am still getting over.. they took the same road... Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

shock I think dopes that to you.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

and now look at them no better than labor at its worst.. paralyzed...... its like a Pop Up govt..

and the leader turncoat is frozen he doesnt know how to act.....and to see that twit shortarse try and make headway out of it is laughable..

he has at least two people krudd and gillard staring at him in utter  disbelief...

selective memory ... what?. Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #7 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:16am
 
cods wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:14am:
red baron wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:33am:
The Federal Liberals are in disarray. Allegations against Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull appearing to lose control of the direction of his Party. Ministerial resignations it's all there.

The worst thing the Libs did to themselves was to assassinate their leader Tony Abbott.

You may not have lied him but there is no mistake he was a leader, Malcolm Turnbull isn't.

Is the impossible going to happen, is little Bill Shorten, shortening in the odds?

He is not a Leader's boot strap..Lord help us all!



of course it was... I am still getting over.. they took the same road... Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

shock I think dopes that to you.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

and now look at them no better than labor at its worst.. paralyzed...... its like a Pop Up govt..

and the leader turncoat is frozen he doesnt know how to act.....and to see that twit shortarse try and make headway out of it is laughable..

he has at least two people krudd and gillard staring at him in utter  disbelief...

selective memory ... what?. Grin Grin Grin


Shock i think dopes that to you , even google translate doesn't know what you're on about  Cheesy
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Reply #8 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:17am
 
Is brainstrust1946 your sock Cods ?
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Reply #9 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:38am
 
red baron wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:33am:
The Federal Liberals are in disarray. Allegations against Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull appearing to lose control of the direction of his Party. Ministerial resignations it's all there.

The worst thing the Libs did to themselves was to assassinate their leader Tony Abbott.

You may not have liked him but there is no mistake he was a leader, Malcolm Turnbull isn't.

Is the impossible going to happen, is little Bill Shorten, shortening in the odds?

He is not a Leader's boot strap..Lord help us all!


If Abbott was still leader the libs would be headed for certain anhialation. Abbott was so bad that when he was deposed the public didn't care who Turnbull was - other than he wasn't Abbott. The 'not being Abbott' factor was the single cause of the libs turnaround in the polls. Now that the public is getting past the overwhelming relief of Abbott leaving, they are starting to think more calmly about who has replaced him. And it shouldn't be a surprise that Turnbull is proving to be a bit of a dud. Not surprising because as Bam pointed out, this isn't the first time he has been judged by the public to be a dud. He is proving a dud in two ways: 1. he can't unify the party after the trauma of the overthrow and 2. he completely lacks the courage required to take the policy initiative - instead opting to bunker down and not offer anything bold on the policy front until after the election. His strategy in achieving this seems to be to pretend he is starting this great discussion for tax reform - trying to convince us that he is approaching the policy front in a calm and measured way. It is clear now that this tactic has completely backfired - culminating in his treasurer becoming a laughing stock for speaking nothing but waffle.

What I find interesting in this period of the political cycle is that for once the polls are not being driven by personality, but by the public's seeming interest in who is creating the right policy - or in labor's case, any policy at all.
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Reply #10 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:47am
 
Its time wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:47am:
bwood1946 wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:43am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:39am:
No Howard Minister visited the mine when those two miners were trapped. Shorten was there.

Shorten is releasing policy, the government isn’t.

Shorten will do me.

A lot of people were and are disparaging about Treasurer Swan yet he oversaw a $180Bn fiscal consolidation.

Shorten will do me as PM until and unless he proves otherwise.



Well there you go decision made..Now the retards can go back to who,s phucking who and who,s not paying Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Durp durp diddly durp  what ?

The mindless always resort to abuse. I dont think I've ever read a post from her that wasn't pure abuse.
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Reply #11 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:50am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:39am:
No Howard Minister visited the mine when those two miners were trapped. Shorten was there.

Shorten is releasing policy, the government isn’t.

Shorten will do me.

A lot of people were and are disparaging about Treasurer Swan yet he oversaw a $180Bn fiscal consolidation.

Shorten will do me as PM until and unless he proves otherwise.


Shorten was there as a Union hack. What good could having a Howard government (or any government) minister there do? Absolutely none. they'd have gotten in the way if anything.
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Reply #12 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:57am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:50am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:39am:
No Howard Minister visited the mine when those two miners were trapped. Shorten was there.

Shorten is releasing policy, the government isn’t.

Shorten will do me.

A lot of people were and are disparaging about Treasurer Swan yet he oversaw a $180Bn fiscal consolidation.

Shorten will do me as PM until and unless he proves otherwise.


Shorten was there as a Union hack. What good could having a Howard government (or any government) minister there do? Absolutely none. they'd have gotten in the way if anything.



So a Union honcho attending an industrial accident site is somehow a bad thing?

amazing.. simply amazing...
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Reply #13 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 11:15am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:57am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 10:50am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:39am:
No Howard Minister visited the mine when those two miners were trapped. Shorten was there.

Shorten is releasing policy, the government isn’t.

Shorten will do me.

A lot of people were and are disparaging about Treasurer Swan yet he oversaw a $180Bn fiscal consolidation.

Shorten will do me as PM until and unless he proves otherwise.


Shorten was there as a Union hack. What good could having a Howard government (or any government) minister there do? Absolutely none. they'd have gotten in the way if anything.



So a Union honcho attending an industrial accident site is somehow a bad thing?

amazing.. simply amazing...


Actually I never said that. Please show us where I said that.
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Reply #14 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 11:28am
 
red baron wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:33am:
The Federal Liberals are in disarray. Allegations against Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull appearing to lose control of the direction of his Party. Ministerial resignations it's all there.

The worst thing the Libs did to themselves was to assassinate their leader Tony Abbott.

You may not have liked him but there is no mistake he was a leader, Malcolm Turnbull isn't.

Is the impossible going to happen, is little Bill Shorten, shortening in the odds?

He is not a Leader's boot strap..Lord help us all!

You think copper internet makes the clever country that people actually died for worth leading?

Son, you need to take a break on the crack pipe  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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