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Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Reply #45 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 9:53pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Gillard didn't really have rumours.
It was known that she had an affair with married Craig Emerson.
Crean had to tell them to knock it off.

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.

Yeas, and so shallow it was that a MHR went to Abbott and confronted him with the perception. That MHR was willing to tell Savva that she had done so.

Ridiculous. The Prime Minister should have the pick of the room. What’s wrong with being intimate with your chief of staff? What’s wrong with her feeding you, crying on your shoulder and enjoying the odd playful slap on the bottom? What’s wrong with her choosing your cabinet, approving their senior political staffers, and, for that matter, most senior government appointments?

We’re not talking about leftards, here. These people are grown-ups.

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Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Reply #46 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:02pm

matty wrote on Mar 7^th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

Not a good comparison. One was an unfounded rumour that might be true, but really, who cares.

The other is Niki Savva recounting what she was told by an Abbott ally who challenged him about it and also challenged Credlin. Savva couldn't give a ff about the rumour in her book, and doesn't spend much time on it. She does spend most of the time on the weird relationship they had. And recounts plenty of people who were allies of Abbott, or who worked under Credlin. And they all tip a huge bucket on her.

All Liberal insiders and many were on Abbott's side. Big difference to a throwaway comment by a radio dj.

Peta Credlin makes Mark Latham look normal in comparison.

I read the book. There is no doubt Savva is on the money. She literally quotes a host of former staffers and politicians not afraid to put their names to it. Many of them loyal to Abbott for years previous to Credlin.

Savva had an axe to grind, but Credlin being Credlin made so it easy for her.

One of the most interesting ones was from Peter Reith. John Howard suggested to Abbott to support Reith for President. So Abbott went to Reith and told him he would support him. Just before the ballot Reith had heard rumours, so he confronted Abbott who re-affirmed his support. So Reith stands against Stockdale. When Abbott votes, he does a public act of showing Stockdale his voting slip as a way of saying "I voted for you". Reith loses. Reith said later about Abbott, "He just lied to me."

The background to the story was that Credlin thought Reith as federal Liberal party president would undermine her husband Liberal federal director Brian Loughnane. But Abbott didn't just turn on Reith, he publicly humiliated him.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard? Reply #47 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:03pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 9:36pm: Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring. Arent these allegations being made in a published book? I dont see either Credlin or Abbott threatening litigation for slander.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61290 Here Gender:	Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard? Reply #48 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:06pm Quote: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard? The things said about Gillard were obviously false, what is being said about Abbott does not seem to be in the same category.
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard? Reply #49 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:09pm I wish they'd run the country instead of acting like children.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61290 Here Gender:	Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard? Reply #50 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:11pm Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:09pm: I wish they'd run the country instead of acting like children. I doubt that it would have made any difference to running the country, I doubt Tony would use that as an excuse.
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Melanias purse

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Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Reply #51 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:20pm

ian wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.

Arent these allegations being made in a published book? I dont see either Credlin or Abbott threatening litigation for slander.

Exactly. This sort of nonsense shouldn’t be written in the first place. The slurs of infidelity pale in comparison to the other things this book goes into. Scullduggery, leaking, political assassination, policy ineptitude and almost complete government paralysis. I mean, really.

Some things are best left unsaid. Why can’t we talk about all the good things Mr Abbott and Ms Credlin did?

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Melanias purse Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101151	Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard? Reply #52 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:23pm Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:09pm: I wish they'd run the country instead of acting like children. Grown-ups, you mean. You mind your manners, Homo.
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Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Reply #53 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:34pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

ian wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.

Arent these allegations being made in a published book? I dont see either Credlin or Abbott threatening litigation for slander.

Exactly. This sort of nonsense shouldn’t be written in the first place. The slurs of infidelity pale in comparison to the other things this book goes into. Scullduggery, leaking, political assassination, policy ineptitude and almost complete government paralysis. I mean, really.

Some things are best left unsaid. Why can’t we talk about all the good things Mr Abbott and Ms Credlin did?

*LOL*

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Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Reply #54 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:36pm

Brendon wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:02pm:

matty wrote on Mar 7^th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

Why did everyone criticise Howard Sattler for spreading rumours about Gillard's partner being a fag, but not everyone loves it when rumours are spread about Abbott committing infidelity? Where is the criticising and sacking of Niki Savva?

Not a good comparison. One was an unfounded rumour that might be true, but really, who cares.

The other is Niki Savva recounting what she was told by an Abbott ally who challenged him about it and also challenged Credlin. Savva couldn't give a ff about the rumour in her book, and doesn't spend much time on it. She does spend most of the time on the weird relationship they had. And recounts plenty of people who were allies of Abbott, or who worked under Credlin. And they all tip a huge bucket on her.

All Liberal insiders and many were on Abbott's side. Big difference to a throwaway comment by a radio dj.

Peta Credlin makes Mark Latham look normal in comparison.

I read the book. There is no doubt Savva is on the money. She literally quotes a host of former staffers and politicians not afraid to put their names to it. Many of them loyal to Abbott for years previous to Credlin.

Savva had an axe to grind, but Credlin being Credlin made so it easy for her.

One of the most interesting ones was from Peter Reith. John Howard suggested to Abbott to support Reith for President. So Abbott went to Reith and told him he would support him. Just before the ballot Reith had heard rumours, so he confronted Abbott who re-affirmed his support. So Reith stands against Stockdale. When Abbott votes, he does a public act of showing Stockdale his voting slip as a way of saying "I voted for you". Reith loses. Reith said later about Abbott, "He just lied to me."

The background to the story was that Credlin thought Reith as federal Liberal party president would undermine her husband Liberal federal director Brian Loughnane. But Abbott didn't just turn on Reith, he publicly humiliated him.

Yes, but so what? If Mr Abbott wants to protect his chief of staff’s interests over his party’s, surely that’s his right as our elected Prime Minister.

Say what you’ll do and do what you say, that’s Mr Abbott’s motto. Behind the scenes, he said it’s best to give into Ms Credlin when she’s in one of her moods and sort things out later.

Women.

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Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Reply #55 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 11:07pm

I see the lowest of the low common denominators are just loving nothing but solicitous gossip that has been confirmed as nothing but a rumour.

Not like Shortens rape case where he was investigated or Pilbeserks hubby who spent time in the slammer for for dealing heroin and was later caught with X pills.

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Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Reply #56 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 11:14pm

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

ian wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.

Arent these allegations being made in a published book? I dont see either Credlin or Abbott threatening litigation for slander.

Some things are best left unsaid.

yes, like your posts with this constant gay drama queen sarcastic innuendo. Ok we get it, you are gay.

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Why can’t we talk about all the good things Mr Abbott and Ms Credlin did?

Go for it, you are telling the story.

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Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Reply #57 - Mar 9^th, 2016 at 11:50pm

ian wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 11:14pm:

Melanias purse wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

ian wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2016 at 9:36pm:

Abbott and Credlin are more malicious whispering rumouring.

Arent these allegations being made in a published book? I dont see either Credlin or Abbott threatening litigation for slander.

Some things are best left unsaid.

yes, like your posts with this constant gay drama queen sarcastic innuendo. Ok we get it, you are gay.

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Why can’t we talk about all the good things Mr Abbott and Ms Credlin did?

Go for it, you are telling the story.

I'd say anything you ever say is better left unsaid, drunk batman Wink

. It'll at least stop you from making yourself look so silly all the time.

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Jennifer Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 134 QLD Gender:	Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard? Reply #58 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 12:07am If only you could do the same, but I doubt you can stop yourself from making a fool of yourself. You are an expert at it.
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Re: Okay spread rumours about Abbott but not Gillard?
Reply #59 - Mar 10^th, 2016 at 12:21am

Jennifer wrote on Mar 10^th, 2016 at 12:07am:

If only you could do the same, but I doubt you can stop yourself from making a fool of yourself. You are an expert at it.

This would make better sense if you were to just say 'I doubt you could stop yourself from making a fool of yourself, you're an expert at it.'

Would you like to try again? I'll pretend I didn't see your first attempt.

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