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Re: WA back on track
Reply #60 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 1:50pm

mariacostel wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 11:59am:

mariacostel wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 11:52am:

Bam wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 10:51am:

http://independentaustralia.net/wordpress-opt/wp-content/2012/05/trickle-down.jp...

Rather than use cheesy photos,

You do it. Why can't others?

mariacostel wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 11:52am:

how about you make the claim that the average worker is WORSE OFF in the 30 years since that statement. Then WE can laugh at you as per the photo.

Casualisation of the Australian workforce is rising, permanent full-time jobs are getting scarce. Millions of Australians don't have work that's stable enough to get a bank loan, far more than 30 years ago, both in absolute numbers and as a percentage of the work force.

Trickle down is a MYTH.

How about you quote ACTUAL FIGURES, because unemployment is far lower than back in the 70s and house ownership is still the highest in the world. Permanent jobs getting scarce? WHAT RUBBISH! The 'job for life' has certainly gone, but thats no loss to a worker with any skills.

I do love the silly statement that less people are getting bank loans now IN ABSOLUTE NUMBERS than 30 years ago.

You are your own worst enemy with foolishness like that.

..was that a misquote by maria: oh noes Roll Eyes

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Re: WA back on track
Reply #61 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 1:55pm

Swagman wrote on Mar 7^th, 2016 at 9:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2016 at 9:33pm:

Swagman wrote on Mar 7^th, 2016 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2016 at 7:44pm:

of course it's attractive ... with the libs, companies that make millions don't have to pay tAX

...good idea Jonathon. A company tax cut would create more jobs.

meanwhile you want to milk the pensioner, right?

.....more jobs are good for pensioners too. It's the people with those jobs that pay the most of the cost of pensions.

Good old trickle down that Lefties can't comprehend.

You need the companies to provide the jobs that pay for the pensioners and the marginalised folk.

By bashing companies the way unions and Labor do they are in reality bashing pensioners and the down trodden. Sad

swaggy believes anyone who wants to enter into legal partnership should be allowed to make money selling whatever crap the market doesn't need or want

Hey, let's all be middlemen and bugger year 11 economics Cheesy

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Re: WA back on track
Reply #62 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 2:36pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 1:36pm:

mariacostel wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 8:28am:

Neocon economics brought the USA down, $17Trn debt.

Here the neocons are building thoroughly to a $1Trn debt.

Some STILL believe the trickle down lie? Wow!

Hows the FTTN nodes going since YOU claim they cannot work in temperatures over 30 degrees?

Hows the $30B database claim working out?

$20Bn audit was what I said. If you ever read anything you would know addresses have been found to be wrong, copper has had to be (cheaply) remediated etc. So this is on course.

The node cabinets have heat exchangers in them which cannot cope with temperatures over 30°C. Several have already failed—Walkerville for one.

A cut price FTTH may be on the cards, using a simpler topology (not loops) and a thinner cable.

Rubbish. if 30 degrees was their max operating temperature they would have ALL failed long ago. You just can't get a thing right.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: WA back on track Reply #63 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 3:02pm Well, you won’t be convinced and frankly you are too dumb to bother debating so we shall see next summer when there will be more nodes to fail.
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Re: WA back on track
Reply #64 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 3:13pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 3:02pm:

Well, you won’t be convinced and frankly you are too dumb to bother debating so we shall see next summer when there will be more nodes to fail.

It is pure logic, dear imbecile. If your claim that the nodes cannot operate over 30 degrees were true, EVERY node would have failed by now. And yet, NONE have failed from temperature issues. Not one. Ergo, your claim is rubbish and demonstrably so.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: WA back on track Reply #65 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 3:44pm Quite a few HAVE failed. As I said, you are too dumb and uninformed to bother debating. All you have is abuse.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19922 Gender:	Re: WA back on track Reply #66 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 4:24pm Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 3:44pm: Quite a few HAVE failed. Got a link for that?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: WA back on track Reply #67 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 4:30pm Why don’t you do some bloody reading?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19922 Gender:	Re: WA back on track Reply #68 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 4:34pm Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 4:30pm: Why don’t you do some bloody reading? I would if my searches turned up something to read. I tried FTTN Cabinet failure, NBN Cabinet failure, Cabinet failure NBN Australia. Zip, nada, nothing. I even tried on NBNCo.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: WA back on track Reply #69 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 4:47pm Well, keep trying.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19922 Gender:	Re: WA back on track Reply #70 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 5:01pm Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 4:47pm: Well, keep trying. It makes me think n this case absence of evidence is proof of evidence of absence.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: WA back on track Reply #71 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 5:04pm Back on track for what ?
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: WA back on track Reply #72 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 5:05pm lee wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 5:01pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 4:47pm: Well, keep trying. It makes me think n this case absence of evidence is proof of evidence of absence. It makes us think you are just propaganda for the foreign investor cabal GO COPPER INTERNET
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: WA back on track Reply #73 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 5:06pm Its time wrote on Mar 8^th, 2016 at 5:04pm: Back on track for what ? For the next mining boom of course... <twiddles thumbs >
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Re: WA back on track
Reply #74 - Mar 8^th, 2016 at 5:08pm

Bah.

Here is a nice post from Whirlpool:

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The problem with passive/fan type of cooling is that the temperature inside the cabinet will never get below the outside ambient temperature which means the electronics will have cope with temperatures of 40C+ degrees.

To keep the FTTN working in high temperatures

1. The electronics will be of high quality (military grade) expensive.
2. The speed get throttled back and maybe to a point where they shut down.
3. The cabinets use refrigerated cooling also expensive.

All not very nice options.

When designing a system and its critical you have to design for the worst possible conditions so the cabinets to operate at 50C degrees.

P.S. When Tasmania was connected to the national electricity the major power sub station was only designed to operate up to 35C degrees, first hot day came along and the sub station shutdown.

Mr,Wizzard

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/index.cfm?action=reply&r=48852574

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