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Reply #30 - Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:16pm

Swagman wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 7:17pm:

It's an irrelevant question.

I'm all for the employee being compensated for working on weekends, and I'm all for the employers being able to apply a surcharge for opening on weekends.

So, where 's the problem

I'm not at all surprised that you would find it irrelevant and refuse to answer it. A good example of a trade unionist with their head in the sand.

The surcharge is subject to the market..... most people would buy their coffees at the shop selling coffee for $4 and the other shop would have far less sales due to it being non competitive......and maybe close on Sundays and so its Sunday staff lose 8 hours work. So instead of a day's pay they get effall.

I'm all for the employee being compensated for working on weekends, and I'm all for the employers being able to apply a surcharge for opening on weekends.

So, where 's the problem?

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Reply #31 - Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:32pm

Swagman wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:00pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 8:11pm:

Swagman wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 8:07pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 8:02pm:

They charge more than enough during the week to cover penalty rates on weekends , i am dead against any surcharge that makes it harder for those who are stretching the budget already enjoying a family night out .

...so you'd buy the cheaper one too?

I dont even drink coffee , i do however try different resturants around the town i live in and base my dining experience on the quality of product first and foremost .

.....Maccas and Hungry Jacks?

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Reply #32 - Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Swagman wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 7:17pm:

It's an irrelevant question.

I'm all for the employee being compensated for working on weekends, and I'm all for the employers being able to apply a surcharge for opening on weekends.

So, where 's the problem

I'm not at all surprised that you would find it irrelevant and refuse to answer it. A good example of a trade unionist with their head in the sand.

The surcharge is subject to the market..... most people would buy their coffees at the shop selling coffee for $4 and the other shop would have far less sales due to it being non competitive......and maybe close on Sundays and so its Sunday staff lose 8 hours work. So instead of a day's pay they get effall.

I'm all for the employee being compensated for working on weekends, and I'm all for the employers being able to apply a surcharge for opening on weekends.

So, where 's the problem?

It's already factored in , there is no need for a surcharge .

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Reply #33 - Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:36pm

Its time wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Swagman wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 7:17pm:

It's an irrelevant question.

I'm all for the employee being compensated for working on weekends, and I'm all for the employers being able to apply a surcharge for opening on weekends.

So, where 's the problem

I'm not at all surprised that you would find it irrelevant and refuse to answer it. A good example of a trade unionist with their head in the sand.

The surcharge is subject to the market..... most people would buy their coffees at the shop selling coffee for $4 and the other shop would have far less sales due to it being non competitive......and maybe close on Sundays and so its Sunday staff lose 8 hours work. So instead of a day's pay they get effall.

I'm all for the employee being compensated for working on weekends, and I'm all for the employers being able to apply a surcharge for opening on weekends.

So, where 's the problem?

It's already factored in , there is no need for a surcharge .

Yes, you're 100% correct.

However, I have no problem with them applying a surcharge anyway.

What I want to know is, why Longy thinks I'm a hypocrite.

When I asked him, he ran away.

Funny, that.

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: A Surcharge To Cover Penalty Rates Reply #34 - Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:39pm .
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150615 Gender:	Re: A Surcharge To Cover Penalty Rates Reply #35 - Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 10:52pm More silence from the rightards who condone child abuse. What a surprise.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: A Surcharge To Cover Penalty Rates Reply #36 - Mar 4^th, 2016 at 11:34pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 10:52pm: More silence from the rightards who condone child abuse. What a surprise. ....W T F are you on about?
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: A Surcharge To Cover Penalty Rates Reply #37 - Mar 7^th, 2016 at 1:13pm This surcharge happened to me today at my local eatery , I was quite surprised and asked them if they would be lowering their rate that already encompasses penalty rates that they charge during the week, I got the impression it won't be working both ways .
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Re: A Surcharge To Cover Penalty Rates
Reply #38 - Mar 7^th, 2016 at 1:16pm

Its time wrote on Mar 7^th, 2016 at 1:13pm:

This surcharge happened to me today at my local eatery , I was quite surprised and asked them if they would be lowering their rate that already encompasses penalty rates that they charge during the week, I got the impression it won't be working both ways .

...did they give you a cold pie?

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Reply #39 - Mar 7^th, 2016 at 1:22pm

Swagman wrote on Mar 7^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 7^th, 2016 at 1:13pm:

This surcharge happened to me today at my local eatery , I was quite surprised and asked them if they would be lowering their rate that already encompasses penalty rates that they charge during the week, I got the impression it won't be working both ways .

...did they give you a cold pie?

No I didn't want the special sauce from some business owner who knew I was on to his double dipping, so I waited until I had finished the meal first.

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Reply #40 - Mar 7^th, 2016 at 2:08pm

Swagman wrote on Mar 7^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 7^th, 2016 at 1:13pm:

This surcharge happened to me today at my local eatery , I was quite surprised and asked them if they would be lowering their rate that already encompasses penalty rates that they charge during the week, I got the impression it won't be working both ways .

...did they give you a cold pie?

Or maybe flinched at an abusive pollie demanding pizza for him and his family and friends?

Seriously, as one poster stated some time ago, most of us have become used to the 10 or 15 percent loading that most places put on for public holidays etc, and has been happening since Noah was a boy. Where does that "extra" money go if not to make up in some way for penalty rates?

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Wolseley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1453 Sydney Gender:	Re: A Surcharge To Cover Penalty Rates Reply #41 - Mar 7^th, 2016 at 2:49pm stunspore wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 8:11am: This has been around for ages. As long as most of us can remember I would think. At least 50 years as far as I can recall. I'm surprised that anyone considers it newsworthy.
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Reply #42 - Mar 7^th, 2016 at 3:06pm

Its time wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:32pm:

Swagman wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 9:00pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 8:11pm:

Swagman wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 8:07pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2016 at 8:02pm:

They charge more than enough during the week to cover penalty rates on weekends , i am dead against any surcharge that makes it harder for those who are stretching the budget already enjoying a family night out .

...so you'd buy the cheaper one too?

I dont even drink coffee , i do however try different resturants around the town i live in and base my dining experience on the quality of product first and foremost .

.....Maccas and Hungry Jacks?

Don't look so sad ... Swags from Dapto, an area where Maccas and Hungry Jacks are considered to be a 'fine dining' experience

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Reply #43 - Mar 7^th, 2016 at 3:25pm

"Labour is not just an ordinary input. There are ethical and community norms about the way in which a country treats its employees." - From the productivity commission.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-07/verrender-why-we-should-be-worried-about-w...

Just to add to this:
"Lower wages income results in less spending. That means reduced profits for corporations. And that flows through to crimped tax receipts - both income and company - with the potential to form a spiralling impact on the government's ability to deliver services."

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Reply #44 - Mar 7^th, 2016 at 3:32pm

"Labour is not just an ordinary input. There are ethical and community norms about the way in which a country treats its employees." - From the productivity commission.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-07/verrender-why-we-should-be-worried-about-w...

Just to add to this:
"Lower wages income results in less spending. That means reduced profits for corporations. And that flows through to crimped tax receipts - both income and company - with the potential to form a spiralling impact on the government's ability to deliver services."

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