Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 2:29pm:



Or citing references.

Pick up your game, Homo.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 3:16pm:
I'm not allowed to Pecca. Post up the link for me if you have the guts.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
I can't cite links until I've got up a certain number of posts. Because you are such a ball licker you've never been banned and wouldn't know this.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 3:25pm:
why?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 3:28pm:
Think what you want. It's a big story at the moment that anybody can find info on. You are making a story about nothing. In fact you are acting like sheila with her pants pulled down.

In 'murica, unless someone gets shot, it's not a real blue!

issuevoter wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 10:39pm:



Maybe. Just another day in capitalist greedy corporate America.

issuevoter wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 10:39pm:


The OP is a long time supporter of the KKK (as well as a plagiarist).

As a fellow racist, he doesn't like to see the Klan members treated in this manner.

But no, it's not worthy of our interest.

Issue voter, Karnal, someone's posted something that doesn't pique OUR interest. How dare they infringe on OUR sensitivities on OUR social medial site? Should'nt OUR moderators apply OUR rules and have them banned off OUR Ozpolitics? That's why you are and always will be a ball licker, Pecker.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 11:08am:


Sorry, Homo, I don't understand the question.

Can you ask it again in language a Pakistani can understand? Pretend I'm your next door neighbour.

Carnal; the language I shall use is dit,dit,dit...dum,dum,dum.  Yes, I think I'll try English. Firstly, I wasn't asking a question, I was making a comment. The entire thread is about a group's right to demonstrate without being assaulted. Even if they are repulsive. If you're like Pecker (and I suspect you are) you'll undoubtedly be shaking your fist at the idea of someone supporting the KKK's right to hold a peaceful demonstration. If that's the case (and I suspect it is) then what does that REALLY say about your attitude towards freedom of speech. Of course, have all the freedom of speech you want as long as it conforms to our wishy-washy leftist hand-wringing. BTW, I wouldn't even to talk to the piece of camel's faeces from next door.

They didn't "say" anything - they were attacked as soon as they got out of their cars.

Not sure how the rally was publicised, but media outlets probably played a major role in inciting the violence, by publicising and sensationalising something which wouldn't usually attract much interest.  It's not uncommon behaviour by the media, who just wash their hands of it.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:


Ah.

So what's that funny little symbol at the end of your comment?

"Should'nt OUR moderators apply OUR rules and have them banned off OUR Ozpolitics?"

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:


Depends what you mean by peaceful protests. 

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-24/gun-seized-ahead-of-reclaim-australia-rally/6644638 - guns seized from groups attending reclaim Australia.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/police-investigate-kill-threats-against-councillor-stephen-jolly-20150802-giplc3.html - kill threats against councillor by extremists.

And in between, there is a bit of public roasting of pork, and also more times or not, I reckon the Reclaim Australia protesters holding their ground fighting back and harassing others as well.    It goes both ways when you have two groups of extremists in the same place + young men + alcohol.

The Black Lives Matter movement is full of anti white racists and nobody bothers them when they chuck on a demo. If you don't like the people who are chucking on a demo then don't turn up. It's democracy at work.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:


That depends. In most Australian states, you need permission to hold a protest demo, particularly if you're blocking streets. The police make a judgment call whether such a protest is likely to attract violence.

Queensland has quite strict laws about gatherings. NSW is more liberal. The police didn't (or couldn't) stop the Cronulla riot, for example. They did, however, recommend that people stay home on that day.

I'm all for the freedom of assembly, but I've come to hate protests. They are inherently angry. This anger has nowhere to go. People always leave street protests disappointed. Such anger and disappointment does not necessarily translate into political action. I can't think of anything worse than marching down George Street chanting slogans in unison. Hey hey, ho ho...

It might be different when people have no other way to express their discontent. The Arab Spring centred around a number of key protests in city centres, and they had the effect of removing governments.

The most instrumental demonstrations, of course, were the US civil rights marches in the 1960s. They had such an impact, LBJ begged Martin Luther King to stop the marches. The result of this was blacks getting the vote and the end of segregation.

The KKK can hardly be compared to this. Most members insist on anonymity. Their platform is a racially "pure" America. They want blacks and Hispanics somehow removed from society. They hide their identities to evade the law and avoid social stigma. This can hardly be seen as freedom of expression.

The civil rights movement was about applying the US constitution to all members of society. The KKK want to abandon the constitution and the rule of law. The difference between these two movements is stark: one wants to uphold the law, the other wants to evade it.

Any reference to freedom of expression needs to take this into account.

Big Donger wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 8:52am:
So you don't like demos that turn nasty but you respected the American civil right demos that turned nasty???

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:23am:
The klan is a legal institution in the sates. Those two muslim groups are banned. Different thing.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:25am:
Aren't you getting off track. Where did that question come from? You moved from an American issue to Australia and now asking if I'm a member of the klan. Damage control obviously.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:37am:
nope. are you a member of gay pride?

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:45am:
You do come across and girly and beta . It thought you were.

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:24am:


Er...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 10:38am:


No it's not, it's just using more sophisticated PR methods.

"Check them out on Youtube".

And check them out on Wikipedia:

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