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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 151284 Gender:	Re: Blacks And Do-gooders Attack The Klan Reply #15 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 9:14am issuevoter wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 10:39pm: Is this incident or incidents really worthy of our interest? The OP is a long time supporter of the KKK (as well as a plagiarist). As a fellow racist, he doesn't like to see the Klan members treated in this manner. But no, it's not worthy of our interest.
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Reply #16 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 10:51am

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 28^th, 2016 at 2:29pm:

Three people were stabbed and 13 others were arrested when a California Ku Klux Klan rally erupted into clashes with counter-protesters yesterday.

Police believe the fight began when six KKK members arrived at the protest site in Anaheim and were attacked by counter-protesters, one of whom was purportedly armed with a wooden plank.

The initial assault led to a retaliatory attack in which a counter-protester was stabbed, and then spiralled into a number of smaller fights, investigators believe.

All three stabbing victims – one of whom was critically injured – have been identified as counter-protesters.

A number of KKK members received injuries ranging from “minor to significant”, police said, including two KKK members who were stomped on by the crowd.

Six KKK members and seven counter-protesters have been arrested.

Counter-protester are also believed to have smashed the windows of a KKK member’s SUV.

Witness Brian Levin said he attempted to intervene, standing between the Klansmen and the crowd of counter-protesters in an attempt to stem the violence, even rescuing two Klansmen.

He claims that when he identified himself to one of them as a Jew, the man replied by thanking him.

Obviously somebody doesn't like freedom of speech.

Oh, I know, Homo. Fancy blacks and do-gooders criticizing the KKK. So mean.

FD should be along in a sec to defend them. FD believes in Freeeeeeedom.

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Blacks And Do-gooders Attack The Klan Reply #17 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 11:08am Issue voter, Karnal, someone's posted something that doesn't pique OUR interest. How dare they infringe on OUR sensitivities on OUR social medial site? Should'nt OUR moderators apply OUR rules and have them banned off OUR Ozpolitics? That's why you are and always will be a ball licker, Pecker.
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tickleandrose Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4201 Gender:	Re: Blacks And Do-gooders Attack The Klan Reply #18 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 12:49pm KKK is a organization / entity that supports racial segregation, racial superiority, and far right nationalism. Of course there will be other extremist group on the opposite of the spectrum targeting against them. This bit of news comes as no surprise.
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Reply #19 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 1:23pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 11:08am:

Issue voter, Karnal, someone's posted something that doesn't pique OUR interest. How dare they infringe on OUR sensitivities on OUR social medial site? Should'nt OUR moderators apply OUR rules and have them banned off OUR Ozpolitics? That's why you are and always will be a ball licker, Pecker.

Sorry, Homo, I don't understand the question.

Can you ask it again in language a Pakistani can understand? Pretend I'm your next door neighbour.

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Blacks And Do-gooders Attack The Klan Reply #20 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 1:52pm The interesting thing about this is the dweebs that came out to "counter protest" (read: attack what they deemed as soft targets) were genuinely shocked that they could come to harm.
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Reply #21 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 2:00pm

Carnal; the language I shall use is dit,dit,dit...dum,dum,dum. Yes, I think I'll try English. Firstly, I wasn't asking a question, I was making a comment. The entire thread is about a group's right to demonstrate without being assaulted. Even if they are repulsive. If you're like Pecker (and I suspect you are) you'll undoubtedly be shaking your fist at the idea of someone supporting the KKK's right to hold a peaceful demonstration. If that's the case (and I suspect it is) then what does that REALLY say about your attitude towards freedom of speech. Of course, have all the freedom of speech you want as long as it conforms to our wishy-washy leftist hand-wringing. BTW, I wouldn't even to talk to the piece of camel's faeces from next door.

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Reply #22 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 2:07pm

re Mr Hammer

I do not think the principle of Freedom of speech is at risk here. The KKK were allowed to have the demonstration. They are within their right to free speech. However, because what they say is quiet extreme, and at some cases offensive to others, the others may retaliate and in this case physically. So Freedom of speech also means that the KKK members must be prepared for the consequences of their speech.

Now, the KKK members are well within their right to press charges for physical assault if they are able to identify their attackers, and if the police think there is a case to be presented to the judge.

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Reply #23 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 2:12pm

They didn't "say" anything - they were attacked as soon as they got out of their cars.

Not sure how the rally was publicised, but media outlets probably played a major role in inciting the violence, by publicising and sensationalising something which wouldn't usually attract much interest. It's not uncommon behaviour by the media, who just wash their hands of it.

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Reply #24 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 2:17pm

I agree, Rose. At the same time, we have seen attacks on the Australia Patriot's Front or whatever they're called while they have held peaceful protests in Australia. When I write peaceful I don't mean agreeable or even justifiable. I mean an assembly of like minded people voicing their opinions in a legal and democratic way. Is that still legal? Or are the freedoms of speech and assembly now only reserved for those with 'acceptable' opinions? If that's the case how can we be sure we have freedom of speech and not just a licence to express what our betters allow?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 151284 Gender:	Re: Blacks And Do-gooders Attack The Klan Reply #25 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 3:18pm Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 2:00pm: I wasn't asking a question, I was making a comment. Ah. So what's that funny little symbol at the end of your comment? "Should'nt OUR moderators apply OUR rules and have them banned off OUR Ozpolitics?"
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Reply #26 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 4:13pm

... wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 2:12pm:

They didn't "say" anything - they were attacked as soon as they got out of their cars.

Not sure how the rally was publicised, but media outlets probably played a major role in inciting the violence, by publicising and sensationalising something which wouldn't usually attract much interest. It's not uncommon behaviour by the media, who just wash their hands of it.

Perhaps they may not have 'said' something at that time, does not mean that they have not said something offensive before hand. And the people there who were waiting for them, did so because the things that they have said in and past, rather than what is anticipated then.

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Reply #27 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 4:18pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:

I agree, Rose. At the same time, we have seen attacks on the Australia Patriot's Front or whatever they're called while they have held peaceful protests in Australia. When I write peaceful I don't mean agreeable or even justifiable. I mean an assembly of like minded people voicing their opinions in a legal and democratic way. Is that still legal? Or are the freedoms of speech and assembly now only reserved for those with 'acceptable' opinions? If that's the case how can we be sure we have freedom of speech and not just a licence to express what our betters allow?

Depends what you mean by peaceful protests.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-24/gun-seized-ahead-of-reclaim-australia-rally/6644638 - guns seized from groups attending reclaim Australia.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/police-investigate-kill-threats-against-councillor-stephen-jolly-20150802-giplc3.html - kill threats against councillor by extremists.

And in between, there is a bit of public roasting of pork, and also more times or not, I reckon the Reclaim Australia protesters holding their ground fighting back and harassing others as well. It goes both ways when you have two groups of extremists in the same place + young men + alcohol.

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Reply #28 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 4:23pm

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 4:13pm:

... wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 2:12pm:

They didn't "say" anything - they were attacked as soon as they got out of their cars.

Not sure how the rally was publicised, but media outlets probably played a major role in inciting the violence, by publicising and sensationalising something which wouldn't usually attract much interest. It's not uncommon behaviour by the media, who just wash their hands of it.

Perhaps they may not have 'said' something at that time, does not mean that they have not said something offensive before hand. And the people there who were waiting for them, did so because the things that they have said in and past, rather than what is anticipated then.

They were there, because the media publicised their little gathering with the intent of stirring up poo like this.

They got their bloodshed, now they just throw up their hands and say "who me? We're just reporting the news"

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Blacks And Do-gooders Attack The Klan Reply #29 - Feb 29^th, 2016 at 4:27pm The Black Lives Matter movement is full of anti white racists and nobody bothers them when they chuck on a demo. If you don't like the people who are chucking on a demo then don't turn up. It's democracy at work.
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