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Reply #105 - Mar 1^st, 2016 at 11:10am

yes lee - I will take on board your suggestion and examine it at the next formal meeting.

well done - you're always thinking outside the box - well done

Commercial exploitation may well be the way to go.

Perhaps an Americium-241 tax and cap and trade system implemented on a global scale.

have you always been this brilliant or do you need to work hard on it?

I am just amazed - absolutely amazed at your supreme gifts

well done mate

well done

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Reply #106 - Mar 1^st, 2016 at 12:26pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 10:43am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 10:26am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:53am:

ARPANSA Lunacy

lets examine the lunacy in the limited Australian Nuclear safety sector. The ARPANSA gang have very interesting advise on how to dispose of small amounts of Am241 - an alpha emitter with a half life of over 400 years. Apparently people should only be concerned if 10 or more detectors need to be disposed of at once. Disposing of less than 10 detectors apparently entails NO RISK AT ALL. Cheesy

Safe disposal of smoke detectors

Individual (or small numbers of) smoke alarms can be safely disposed of in domestic rubbish. The amount of radioactive material in each smoke alarm is extremely small. From environmental and public health perspectives, the disposal of individual smoke alarms with domestic rubbish does not represent any risk.

When more than ten smoke alarms (or more particularly, the Americium-241 sources) are collected together for bulk disposal, they must be treated as radioactive waste, and the requirements of the National Health and Medical Research Council's Code of Practice for the Near-Surface Disposal of Radioactive Waste in Australia (1992) must be met. Contact your state or territory radiation control authority for advice.

http://www.arpansa.gov.au/radiationprotection/factsheets/is_smokedetector.cfm

Dont worry Chimp dont ingest or inhale your smoke detector you should be fine.

so according to ARPANSA, disposing of 10 or more smoke detectors at one time, becomes a legal and medical nuclear waste issue to be dealt by authorities.

And yet communities around Australia can dump thousands of smoke detectors collectively into the local municipal rubbish dump.

I am sure that the supremely sealed containers of Am241 will survive 10 to 20 half lifes - what's a mere 4,320 to 8,640 years?

there should not be any leakage into the immediate ground water OR any bio-accumulation in the ecosystem.

Flojack guarantees this for up to 8,000 years

Well done mate.

There are almost 10 million homes in Australia and perhaps even more commercial buildings etc. Although the Am241 content in each smoke detector is small (~0.0002 grams), the cumulative effect of disposal needs to be taken into consideration.

Good luck - humans know everything and know exactly what they are doing - especially if corporate and Banking profits are involved

Well done everybody - well done

Yep, synroc.

And the banking and corporate references. Wheres the alfoil hat?

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Reply #108 - Mar 1^st, 2016 at 1:24pm

Why is thousands of Am241 laced smoke detectors dumped in the local rubbish tip SAFE prudent disposal policy, but if one has 10 faulty smoke detectors that one wishes to dispose of, then the toxic nuclear waste disposal legislation is activated and authorities must be called in from around Australia to handle this Health and Safety issue?

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well done Gojack - well done mate

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Reply #109 - Mar 1^st, 2016 at 4:47pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 1:24pm:

Why is thousands of Am241 laced smoke detectors dumped in the local rubbish tip SAFE prudent disposal policy, but if one has 10 faulty smoke detectors that one wishes to dispose of, then the toxic nuclear waste disposal legislation is activated and authorities must be called in from around Australia to handle this Health and Safety issue?

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well done Gojack - well done mate

Am241 is dangerous when outside the smoke detector.

It's crazy to fill rubbish dumps with such toxic waste.

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Reply #111 - Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:15pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:10pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 1:21pm:

synroc

Yes synroc, ceramics, gloasses you know science

Why did it take 2 years before they could examine the partial meltdown in the reactor core at Three Mile Island and then a further 20 years to remove the damaged core?

How much of the 100+ tons of reactor core did they convert into synroc?

Was there any Am241 in the melted mess?

Gee, I wonder where the coriums are at the Fukushima Daichi disaster site? Do you know when the synroc experts will arrive Kojack?

Grin

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Reply #112 - Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:19pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:15pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:10pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 1:21pm:

synroc

Yes synroc, ceramics, gloasses you know science

Why did it take 2 years before they could examine the partial meltdown in the reactor core at Three Mile Island and then a further 20 years to remove the damaged core?

How much of the 100+ tons of reactor core did they convert into synroc?

Was there any Am241 in the melted mess?

Gee, I wonder where the coriums are at the Fukushima Daichi disaster site? Do you know when the synroc experts will arrive Kojack?

Grin

We were talking about disposal of americium from smoke detectors. Stop moving the goal,s.

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Reply #113 - Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 9:01am

Well done Chimp,

I'd call that your Ajax post. You should get all the emotive bits together and make it into a laminated poster, which you can pull out every time you get tired of thinking for yourself. You're certainly pulling out all the propaganda you can find regardless of relevance or truth. What happened to those standards you apply ruthlessly against fossil fuel shills?

I can see a certain resemblance to Donald Trump. Very populist, but in the end, "you run out of m0rons".

I just wanted to say well done, Chimp. Well done mate. Wink

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Reply #114 - Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 9:24am

John_Taverner wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 9:01am:

Well done Chimp,

I'd call that your Ajax post. You should get all the emotive bits together and make it into a laminated poster, which you can pull out every time you get tired of thinking for yourself. You're certainly pulling out all the propaganda you can find regardless of relevance or truth. What happened to those standards you apply ruthlessly against fossil fuel shills?

I can see a certain resemblance to Donald Trump. Very populist, but in the end, "you run out of m0rons".

I just wanted to say well done, Chimp. Well done mate. Wink

thanks mate - and by the way - a very big well done to you John - Congratulations on the moderation and hard work you have put into Ozpolitic - everybody in here is very proud of you mate so well done

Why were there radionuclides from the Fukushima fallout detected in Greece John - in Northern Greece mate.

Radioiodine and radiocesium in Thessaloniki, Northern Greece due to the Fukushima nuclear accident
M. Manolopoulou, E. Vagena, S. Stoulos, A. Ioannidou, C. Papastefanou

Journal of Environmental Radioactivity
Volume 102, Issue 8, August 2011, Pages 796–797

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0265931X11000828

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Reply #115 - Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 9:32am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:19pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:15pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:10pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 1:21pm:

synroc

Yes synroc, ceramics, gloasses you know science

Why did it take 2 years before they could examine the partial meltdown in the reactor core at Three Mile Island and then a further 20 years to remove the damaged core?

How much of the 100+ tons of reactor core did they convert into synroc?

Was there any Am241 in the melted mess?

Gee, I wonder where the coriums are at the Fukushima Daichi disaster site? Do you know when the synroc experts will arrive Kojack?

Grin

We were talking about disposal of americium from smoke detectors. Stop moving the goal,s.

Poor Kojack, he doesnt like goal posts being moved.

Well perhaps Dojack will enjoy this article - seeing as glass containing readioactive isotopes is near to his heart. It appears that some sort of glass like substrate has entrapped radionuclides such as Cesium from the post melt down mess at Fukushima and the explosion ejected these fine particles into the ecosystem and also for some people to breath in. Well Done TEPCO

Emission of spherical cesium-bearing particles from an early stage of the Fukushima nuclear accident

http://www.nature.com/articles/srep02554?message-global=remove&WT.ec_id=SREP-704...

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Reply #116 - Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 9:44am

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 9:24am:

John_Taverner wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 9:01am:

Well done Chimp,

I'd call that your Ajax post. You should get all the emotive bits together and make it into a laminated poster, which you can pull out every time you get tired of thinking for yourself. You're certainly pulling out all the propaganda you can find regardless of relevance or truth. What happened to those standards you apply ruthlessly against fossil fuel shills?

I can see a certain resemblance to Donald Trump. Very populist, but in the end, "you run out of m0rons".

I just wanted to say well done, Chimp. Well done mate. Wink

thanks mate - and by the way - a very big well done to you John - Congratulations on the moderation and hard work you have put into Ozpolitic - everybody in here is very proud of you mate so well done

Why were there radionuclides from the Fukushima fallout detected in Greece John - in Northern Greece mate.

Radioiodine and radiocesium in Thessaloniki, Northern Greece due to the Fukushima nuclear accident
M. Manolopoulou, E. Vagena, S. Stoulos, A. Ioannidou, C. Papastefanou

Journal of Environmental Radioactivity
Volume 102, Issue 8, August 2011, Pages 796–797

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0265931X11000828

You forgot to post the last paragrpah from that article big fella

In conclusion, there is no problem for the Greek population and no preventive measures are needed to be provided against the nuclear accident according to the Greek Atomic Energy Commission (GAEC) Bulletin No.11 of 26 March 2011 (GAEC, 2011), the official agent of the Greek Government.

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Reply #117 - Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 9:47am

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 9:32am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:19pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:15pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 9:10pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 1:21pm:

synroc

Yes synroc, ceramics, gloasses you know science

Why did it take 2 years before they could examine the partial meltdown in the reactor core at Three Mile Island and then a further 20 years to remove the damaged core?

How much of the 100+ tons of reactor core did they convert into synroc?

Was there any Am241 in the melted mess?

Gee, I wonder where the coriums are at the Fukushima Daichi disaster site? Do you know when the synroc experts will arrive Kojack?

Grin

We were talking about disposal of americium from smoke detectors. Stop moving the goal,s.

Poor Kojack, he doesnt like goal posts being moved.

Well perhaps Dojack will enjoy this article - seeing as glass containing readioactive isotopes is near to his heart. It appears that some sort of glass like substrate has entrapped radionuclides such as Cesium from the post melt down mess at Fukushima and the explosion ejected these fine particles into the ecosystem and also for some people to breath in. Well Done TEPCO

Emission of spherical cesium-bearing particles from an early stage of the Fukushima nuclear accident

http://www.nature.com/articles/srep02554?message-global=remove&WT.ec_id=SREP-704...

This one claims further study needed.

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Reply #118 - Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 9:58am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 4:47pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 1:24pm:

Why is thousands of Am241 laced smoke detectors dumped in the local rubbish tip SAFE prudent disposal policy, but if one has 10 faulty smoke detectors that one wishes to dispose of, then the toxic nuclear waste disposal legislation is activated and authorities must be called in from around Australia to handle this Health and Safety issue?

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well done Gojack - well done mate

Am241 is dangerous when outside the smoke detector.

It's crazy to fill rubbish dumps with such toxic waste.

Very low risk. Each smoke detector contains less than 1 micro Curie (μCi or uCi if you're lazy).

See these minerals?

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/uraninite

About 1 gram of uraninite gives you about 4 uCi (3FMT). You can legally send all these samples through the post.

Worried? Why not buy a Geiger counter for your smartphone

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Smart-Geiger-Nuclear-Radiation-Detector-Counter-Test-f...

LOL - you get what you pay for.

* See if you can guess what FMT stands for. It's a new unit of activity.

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Reply #119 - Mar 2^nd, 2016 at 3:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 4:47pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2016 at 1:24pm:

Why is thousands of Am241 laced smoke detectors dumped in the local rubbish tip SAFE prudent disposal policy, but if one has 10 faulty smoke detectors that one wishes to dispose of, then the toxic nuclear waste disposal legislation is activated and authorities must be called in from around Australia to handle this Health and Safety issue?

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well done Gojack - well done mate

Am241 is dangerous when outside the smoke detector.

It's crazy to fill rubbish dumps with such toxic waste.

Well done Mr Sir Bobby

Remember smoke detectors containing Am241 are not dangerous or considered nuclear waste, if a citizen throws 9 or less smoke detectors in his/her rubbish bin at one time.

But, Mr Sir Bobby, if that citizen has 10 smoke detectors or more to dispose of, then we have a national nuclear waste disposal issue that requires the regulatory bodies to enter the premises with suits and masks and special trucks etc.

Well done Mr Sir Bobby

As a slave you have done very well indeed mate

Congratulations

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