John_Taverner wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 5:00pm:


The headline piece is what Tollefson wrote, it wasn't from the abstract. I never claimed it was the paper written by Fyfe et al.

Did Tollefson, who writes for Nature, correctly state what was written in the paper?

I have now given you the paper; does it say what it is purported to have said?

If not please tell us why Tollefson, and by implication Nature, lied.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 5:22pm:



I know why you write so small.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 29^th, 2016 at 6:02pm:



Nope. You are doing "nasty" things to yourself.i

New Questions on the "hiatus".

'To investigate why the global warming trend varies from decade to decade, scientists from the National Oceanography Centre (NOC, UK) will work alongside those from nine other research organisations as part of a major new multidisciplinary research project. Over the last decade a slowdown, or hiatus, has been observed in the global warming of the earth’s surface. Although it is important to note that heat is still accumulating in other parts of the climate system, such as the deep ocean.'

http://www.hydro-international.com/content/news/project-investigates-the-global-...


This follows on from a new satellite adjustment from Carl Mears of RSS. The main assumption being that tropical Relative Humidity (RH) is near-constant at 0.8.

'Over the tropical oceans, atmospheric temperature and total column water vapor (TCWV) are tightly constrained assuming near-constant relative humidity and the Clausius-Clapeyron relationship (Mears et al. 2007; Wentz and Schabel 2000).

https://sci-hub.io/10.1175/JCLI-D-15-0744.1

'The  seasonal  differences  in  RH  agree very  well  (both  sign  and  magnitude)  with  the  GCM  (Del Genio et al. 1994):  15% to 20% in the midtroposphere and 0%  to  10%  in  the  low  and  upper  troposphere,  and  have  the same  sign  as  those  from  the  Stratosphere  Aerosol  and  Gas Experiment  (SAGE-II)  but  larger  magnitudes  (Rind  et  al.1991; Del Genio et al. 1994).'

https://www.arm.gov/publications/proceedings/conf08/extended_abs/wang_j.pdf

So how near-constant is Relative Humidity?

Where has the warming been found in the deep ocean? How deep is deep?

Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 4:19pm:



The COP21 Agreement couldn't even decide what is an industrialised country and what isn't. The agreement was and is a waste of trees.

lee wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 4:24pm:


what about the 12 billion dollars you and your fellow tax payers in Australia use to prop up the fossil fuel and mining sectors? Sectors which are 83% foreign owned by multinational corporations and only employ about 3% of the Total Australian workforce. Great subsidy bargain for the tax payer isn't it lee?

why does your beloved foreign owned fossil fuel scam require socialistic welfare and protection to survive lee? Does it pay for the externalities it creates in society and the environment?

you appear to be very silent of these matters lee.

You're a deranged political fascist when it suits you and a Stalinist Marxist centralist control freak when things dont suit you lee.

And we all know what sort of person this neurosis encompasses dont we folks.

Well done lee - exposed again in public for what you are

You need to get to the nearest KFC for a fill up mate.

lee wrote on Mar 13^th, 2016 at 6:49pm:

Te be a semantic debate or not to be a semantic debate: that is the question  !!