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Reply #45 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:47pm

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:35am:

Defence is defence ... warmongering is not defence.

Defence is not waiting until you have been invaded and fighting for your very existence. It is very much includes ones ability to project force outside your country and fight as part of an integrated coalition.

The greens defence policy is fkken joke, much like all the green's policies.

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Reply #47 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:29pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:53pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:48am:

The Cessna I learned to fly in climbs faster than a Tiger Moth.

typical lib, thinks last centuries technology will do Cheesy

a tiger moth? please those things were already old before I was even born Cheesy

Did armpit tell you about the time he was an astronaut ?

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Reply #48 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:37pm

This white paper was released as a deflection from the Libs embarrassing performance with NG, Turnbull was making a point of steering the conversation towards Defence hoping to get some sort of criticism, but good ol Labor were on to that school boy trap. Then we had Turnbull busting out the Abort slogans , vote Labor and you will be poorer , oh dear rightards , its not looking good Grin

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Reply #49 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 7:34pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:24pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:35am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:25am:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:44am:

Those that support throwing money at the war machine, just for the sake of it ... where were they when the coalition were attacking our ability of soft diplomacy via ABC's asian network?

How come only noisy subs and dud fighters are the only arrow's in the coalition's quill?

Return and lift funding to the ABC and SBS ... and give back the Asian Network to the ABC.

There is a massive arms build u in our art of the world and you want us to invest in a K-Pop radio station instead of advanced weapons systems to protect our country.

How the fkk do you even tie your laces to go to the dole office and get your handout?

Defence is defence ... warmongering is not defence.

By using all means available, including diplomacy, direct and soft, we can have the biggest bang for our bucks.

To devalue diplomacy, shows your lack of understanding behind human behaviour and the economics that underpin our way of life.

To cut spending to organisations like CSIRO. To try and make higher education a luxury item.

So many actions of the coalition to weaken Australia and to save money, so to throw the cash back so to make the military sector fat and lazy.

"the best defence is a good offence". Or are you the last ignoramus not to know that? Why do you think countries dont attack the USA? Because of their defences or because they will get blown to hell if they try?

The best defence is interconnection. By drawing out our similarities and our showing combined future, we can then put our war toys aside and move on.
Soft diplomacy is one of the ways to achieve this end. The ABC's Asian Network was a vital part ... until the coalition's ideological war on the ABC killed it.

Meanwhile Australia's current plan is to enter a arms race with a region which will have 80% of the world's economy in a few decades. An arms race is a sure bet loss for Australia (and the US).

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Reply #50 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 7:45pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:47pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:35am:

Defence is defence ... warmongering is not defence.

Defence is not waiting until you have been invaded and fighting for your very existence. It is very much includes ones ability to project force outside your country and fight as part of an integrated coalition.

The greens defence policy is fkken joke, much like all the green's policies.

So how are a handful of extremely noisy subs suppose to protect us during a cyber war ... will they finally be able to keep the illegal Japanese whalers out of our waters?

The hawks who want to financially profit from the war machine, want to equip us for a 20th century war, not a 21st.

I have no problem with well thought out investment in defence. Unfortunately Australia is being taken for a ride by the US ... and the coalition ~ and labor ~ are saying "jump how high"?

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Reply #51 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:45pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 6:37am:

____ wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:39am:

Meanwhile more important sectors are screwed !

Australian military to receive $30 billion boost in long-awaited Defence White Paper

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-25/defence-white-paper-australian-army-to-rec...

The ADF is more than just war. They also do humanitarian and relief work.

And gang rape, sexual harassment, and bullying.

Don't forget the gang rape, sexual harassment, and bullying.

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Reply #52 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:52pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:22pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:06am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:55am:

The F-16 is one of the best multi-role fighter jets ever made AND it's a single engine aircraft AND it doesn't possess stealthy technology like the F-35 does.

But the F35 is a flying brick -

it can't turn - & it can't climb faster than a tiger moth.

You're a real bullshit artist, you know that? The Cessna I learned to fly in climbs faster than a Tiger Moth. Oh, and the F-35 turns quite well, actually. You don't have a clue what you're talking about - just parroting the crap spewed by the opponents of the F-35 without giving it any thought yourself. You're pretty gullible.

I picked that up about Bobby months ago. He is extraordinarily gullible. Definitely a single-engine brain.

And you've never heard of hyperbole - fool!

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Reply #53 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:23pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:52pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:22pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:06am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:55am:

The F-16 is one of the best multi-role fighter jets ever made AND it's a single engine aircraft AND it doesn't possess stealthy technology like the F-35 does.

But the F35 is a flying brick -

it can't turn - & it can't climb faster than a tiger moth.

You're a real bullshit artist, you know that? The Cessna I learned to fly in climbs faster than a Tiger Moth. Oh, and the F-35 turns quite well, actually. You don't have a clue what you're talking about - just parroting the crap spewed by the opponents of the F-35 without giving it any thought yourself. You're pretty gullible.

I picked that up about Bobby months ago. He is extraordinarily gullible. Definitely a single-engine brain.

And you've never heard of hyperbole - fool!

I found it most entertaining , well done for hooking a cpl of rightards

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 117304 Melbourne Gender:	Re: $30,000,000,000 Extra For War ! Reply #54 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:29pm Its time wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:23pm: I found it most entertaining , well done for hooking a cpl of rightards The only reason we're getting F35s is that we can operate as a team with the Yanks. No other plane will do that.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: $30,000,000,000 Extra For War ! Reply #55 - Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:52pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:29pm: Its time wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:23pm: I found it most entertaining , well done for hooking a cpl of rightards The only reason we're getting F35s is that we can operate as a team with the Yanks. No other plane will do that. Couldnt we retrofit our tiger moths ?
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Reply #56 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 3:46pm

Its time wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:53pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:48am:

The Cessna I learned to fly in climbs faster than a Tiger Moth.

typical lib, thinks last centuries technology will do Cheesy

a tiger moth? please those things were already old before I was even born Cheesy

Did armpit tell you about the time he was an astronaut ?

That was Grappler.

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Reply #57 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 3:47pm

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 7:34pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:24pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:35am:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 9:25am:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:44am:

Those that support throwing money at the war machine, just for the sake of it ... where were they when the coalition were attacking our ability of soft diplomacy via ABC's asian network?

How come only noisy subs and dud fighters are the only arrow's in the coalition's quill?

Return and lift funding to the ABC and SBS ... and give back the Asian Network to the ABC.

There is a massive arms build u in our art of the world and you want us to invest in a K-Pop radio station instead of advanced weapons systems to protect our country.

How the fkk do you even tie your laces to go to the dole office and get your handout?

Defence is defence ... warmongering is not defence.

By using all means available, including diplomacy, direct and soft, we can have the biggest bang for our bucks.

To devalue diplomacy, shows your lack of understanding behind human behaviour and the economics that underpin our way of life.

To cut spending to organisations like CSIRO. To try and make higher education a luxury item.

So many actions of the coalition to weaken Australia and to save money, so to throw the cash back so to make the military sector fat and lazy.

"the best defence is a good offence". Or are you the last ignoramus not to know that? Why do you think countries dont attack the USA? Because of their defences or because they will get blown to hell if they try?

The best defence is interconnection. By drawing out our similarities and our showing combined future, we can then put our war toys aside and move on.
Soft diplomacy is one of the ways to achieve this end. The ABC's Asian Network was a vital part ... until the coalition's ideological war on the ABC killed it.

Meanwhile Australia's current plan is to enter a arms race with a region which will have 80% of the world's economy in a few decades. An arms race is a sure bet loss for Australia (and the US).

"Peace in our time"

Some people do not learn from history,

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Reply #58 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 3:49pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:52pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:22pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:06am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:55am:

The F-16 is one of the best multi-role fighter jets ever made AND it's a single engine aircraft AND it doesn't possess stealthy technology like the F-35 does.

But the F35 is a flying brick -

it can't turn - & it can't climb faster than a tiger moth.

You're a real bullshit artist, you know that? The Cessna I learned to fly in climbs faster than a Tiger Moth. Oh, and the F-35 turns quite well, actually. You don't have a clue what you're talking about - just parroting the crap spewed by the opponents of the F-35 without giving it any thought yourself. You're pretty gullible.

I picked that up about Bobby months ago. He is extraordinarily gullible. Definitely a single-engine brain.

And you've never heard of hyperbole - fool!

Nice try, but your ignorance on almost every topic is legendary. You only learned after-the-fact that the F35 can actually go VERTICAL for brief periods. Try that in a tiger moth.

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Reply #59 - Feb 27^th, 2016 at 3:52pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 27^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:52pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:22pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 8:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 6:06am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26^th, 2016 at 5:55am:

The F-16 is one of the best multi-role fighter jets ever made AND it's a single engine aircraft AND it doesn't possess stealthy technology like the F-35 does.

But the F35 is a flying brick -

it can't turn - & it can't climb faster than a tiger moth.

You're a real bullshit artist, you know that? The Cessna I learned to fly in climbs faster than a Tiger Moth. Oh, and the F-35 turns quite well, actually. You don't have a clue what you're talking about - just parroting the crap spewed by the opponents of the F-35 without giving it any thought yourself. You're pretty gullible.

I picked that up about Bobby months ago. He is extraordinarily gullible. Definitely a single-engine brain.

And you've never heard of hyperbole - fool!

Nice try, but your ignorance on almost every topic is legendary. You only learned after-the-fact that the F35 can actually go VERTICAL for brief periods. Try that in a tiger moth.

Longy/Maria,
just sell your fibro dump in Adelaide before property crashes
& stay out of technical discussions.

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