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Reply #15 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:02am

Swagman wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 8:58am:

Bam wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 7:50am:

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$30,000,000,000 Extra For War !

... over 10 years.

We need to look at the annual figure on all such policy announcements to ensure we are comparing like with like.

That's true.

$3 Billion a year for defense..... compared to $12 Billion a year in interest payments, from Leftist Govt overspending.... Sad

Puts it into context somewhat don't it.... Cheesy

Which is about what it would take to build FTTP - and FTTP would have an roi of 10% -defense does not!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-06/has-the-government-doubled-the-budget-defi...

Damn that ALP....

The LNP have doubled the budget deficit - they are responsible for the budget deficit.

As was Howard when he was treasurer!

60% of the 96 billion in 1996 can be attributed to his time as treasurer.

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Reply #16 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:24am

21st Century Dialup Network wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:02am:

The LNP have doubled the budget deficit - they are responsible for the budget deficit.

Sorry.......the billion a month interest bill was applicable in 2013 - 14 fiscal year

The Coalition and Australian tax-payer inherited Labor's debt, the interest on Labor's debt and Rudd -> Gillard -> Rudd Labor's 6 budget deficits. Cheesy

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Reply #17 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:29am

Swagman wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

21st Century Dialup Network wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:02am:

The LNP have doubled the budget deficit - they are responsible for the budget deficit.

Sorry.......the billion a month interest bill was applicable in 2013 - 14 fiscal year

The Coalition and Australian tax-payer inherited Labor's debt, the interest on Labor's debt and Rudd -> Gillard -> Rudd Labor's 6 budget deficits. Cheesy

they forget labor started borrowing for the stimulus..way back in 2008....they spent their inherited surplus....on WHAT we will never know.... ho hum..

at least if the libs are borrowing we could have some planes and subs to show for it.

unlike labors debt.. NOTHING>

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Reply #18 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:36am

cods wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:29am:

they forget labor started borrowing for the stimulus..way back in 2008....they spent their inherited surplus....on WHAT we will never know.... ho hum..

at least if the libs are borrowing we could have some planes and subs to show for it.

are you nuts? labor had the gfc to deal with, the libs propsal at the time was going to cost almost as much as labors. Australia was one of few countries to avoid a recession because of labors policies.

The libs have now DOUBLED the deficit and no GFC. Cheesy

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Reply #19 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:37am

cods wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:29am:

Swagman wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

21st Century Dialup Network wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:02am:

The LNP have doubled the budget deficit - they are responsible for the budget deficit.

Sorry.......the billion a month interest bill was applicable in 2013 - 14 fiscal year

The Coalition and Australian tax-payer inherited Labor's debt, the interest on Labor's debt and Rudd -> Gillard -> Rudd Labor's 6 budget deficits. Cheesy

they forget labor started borrowing for the stimulus..way back in 2008....they spent their inherited surplus....on WHAT we will never know.... ho hum..

at least if the libs are borrowing we could have some planes and subs to show for it.

unlike labors debt.. NOTHING>

What have Libs got to show from doubling the budget deficit apart from low economic growth , lowest wage growth in 18 years , highest unemployment in years ? Ever feel like you have been cheated Cheesy

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Reply #21 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:40am

And the Liberal government have what? Since they took power, they have made cuts to health, disability, education, abc, sbs. They also tried to cut merger incomes of nursing home elderlies and veterans by way of indexation. They increased tax for the rich. And all that, the budge deficit still blow up by billions.

I think the Liberal government have lost its directions.

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Reply #22 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:13am

Swagman wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

21st Century Dialup Network wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:02am:

The LNP have doubled the budget deficit - they are responsible for the budget deficit.

Sorry.......the billion a month interest bill was applicable in 2013 - 14 fiscal year

The Coalition and Australian tax-payer inherited Labor's debt, the interest on Labor's debt and Rudd -> Gillard -> Rudd Labor's 6 budget deficits. Cheesy

They have still caused the budget deficit to double - even taking into account the alp's deficit.

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Reply #23 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:23am

____ wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:39am:

Meanwhile more important sectors are screwed !

Australian military to receive $30 billion boost in long-awaited Defence White Paper

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-25/defence-white-paper-australian-army-to-rec...

And a whole lot of crappy F-35's with single engines. Much cheaper to get some old F-86 Sabre jets from the Arizona museum and retrofit them Cheesy

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Reply #24 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:39am

John Smith wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:36am:

cods wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:29am:

they forget labor started borrowing for the stimulus..way back in 2008....they spent their inherited surplus....on WHAT we will never know.... ho hum..

at least if the libs are borrowing we could have some planes and subs to show for it.

are you nuts? labor had the gfc to deal with, the libs propsal at the time was going to cost almost as much as labors. Australia was one of few countries to avoid a recession because of labors policies.

The libs have now DOUBLED the deficit and no GFC. Cheesy

Your ignorance slip is showing once again Jonathon.

They haven't doubled the debt or interest commitment though. They have been trying to rein it in actually, but are being blocked by the ridiculously irresponsible and unrepresentative Senate.

Labor was actually in Govt right throughout the mining commodities boom and whilst Australia enjoyed record high terms of trade and record high iron ore prices yet they still managed to rack up enough debt that is costing the tax-payer a Billion Dollars a month.

The economic outlook for Australia is far worse at present than at any time during the GFC.

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Reply #25 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:55am

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:23am:

____ wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:39am:

Meanwhile more important sectors are screwed !

Australian military to receive $30 billion boost in long-awaited Defence White Paper

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-25/defence-white-paper-australian-army-to-rec...

And a whole lot of crappy F-35's with single engines. Much cheaper to get some old F-86 Sabre jets from the Arizona museum and retrofit them Cheesy

LOL

And you with your decades of experience working on /with advanced fighter jets. Well you do have years of experience in believing everything you see on YouTube. Grin

Lets keep the technical stuff to the technical people and you stick to whinging about house prices shall we.

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Reply #26 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 11:29am

Swagman wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:39am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:36am:

cods wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 9:29am:

they forget labor started borrowing for the stimulus..way back in 2008....they spent their inherited surplus....on WHAT we will never know.... ho hum..

at least if the libs are borrowing we could have some planes and subs to show for it.

are you nuts? labor had the gfc to deal with, the libs propsal at the time was going to cost almost as much as labors. Australia was one of few countries to avoid a recession because of labors policies.

The libs have now DOUBLED the deficit and no GFC. Cheesy

Your ignorance slip is showing once again Jonathon.

They haven't doubled the debt or interest commitment though. They have been trying to rein it in actually, but are being blocked by the ridiculously irresponsible and unrepresentative Senate.

Labor was actually in Govt right throughout the mining commodities boom and whilst Australia enjoyed record high terms of trade and record high iron ore prices yet they still managed to rack up enough debt that is costing the tax-payer a Billion Dollars a month.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/Terms-of-Trade1.jpg http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/Comm%20prices.jpg

The economic outlook for Australia is far worse at present than at any time during the GFC.

who mentioned the debt Swag? and what budget saving policies are being blocked? are you referring to the cuts to medicare abbott wanted to make where ALL the money went into a future fund? or perhaps your referring to the increase in GST that would end up costing more than it raised? tell me which policies exactly are budget saving?

If the economic outlook is worse, it's because we have id iots in charge. Only a lib would claim the current economi c climate is worse than during the GFC

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Reply #27 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:41pm

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:55am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:23am:

____ wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:39am:

Meanwhile more important sectors are screwed !

Australian military to receive $30 billion boost in long-awaited Defence White Paper

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-25/defence-white-paper-australian-army-to-rec...

And a whole lot of crappy F-35's with single engines. Much cheaper to get some old F-86 Sabre jets from the Arizona museum and retrofit them Cheesy

LOL

And you with your decades of experience working on /with advanced fighter jets. Well you do have years of experience in believing everything you see on YouTube. Grin

Lets keep the technical stuff to the technical people and you stick to whinging about house prices shall we.

Single engine jet aircrafts are so old school. You'd have to be completrely retarded to even contemplate such primitive designs !!

And does this thing have thrust vectoring ?

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Reply #28 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:44pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:41pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:55am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:23am:

____ wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:39am:

Meanwhile more important sectors are screwed !

Australian military to receive $30 billion boost in long-awaited Defence White Paper

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-25/defence-white-paper-australian-army-to-rec...

And a whole lot of crappy F-35's with single engines. Much cheaper to get some old F-86 Sabre jets from the Arizona museum and retrofit them Cheesy

LOL

And you with your decades of experience working on /with advanced fighter jets. Well you do have years of experience in believing everything you see on YouTube. Grin

Lets keep the technical stuff to the technical people and you stick to whinging about house prices shall we.

Single engine jet aircrafts are so old school. You'd have to be completrely retarded to even contemplate such primitive designs !!

And does this thing have thrust vectoring ?

And what if Trump wins the election & abandons the F35 project?
Didn't he say he would?

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Reply #29 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:44pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:41pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:55am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 10:23am:

____ wrote on Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:39am:

Meanwhile more important sectors are screwed !

Australian military to receive $30 billion boost in long-awaited Defence White Paper

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-25/defence-white-paper-australian-army-to-rec...

And a whole lot of crappy F-35's with single engines. Much cheaper to get some old F-86 Sabre jets from the Arizona museum and retrofit them Cheesy

LOL

And you with your decades of experience working on /with advanced fighter jets. Well you do have years of experience in believing everything you see on YouTube. Grin

Lets keep the technical stuff to the technical people and you stick to whinging about house prices shall we.

Single engine jet aircrafts are so old school. You'd have to be completrely retarded to even contemplate such primitive designs !!

And does this thing have thrust vectoring ?

And what if Trump wins the election & abandons the F35 project?
Didn't he say he would?

Yeh Trump reckons it's been a bad deal right from the start and should be scrapped.

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