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Re: Government to change Senate voting laws
Reply #90 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 3:08pm

Bam wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 8:02am:

You're wrong. Open this link and scroll down to ticket Z where Muir is and go across to the far right. You'll note that this is the AEC website for first preference votes in the senate race of 2013, and it shows the total number of first preference votes to Muir was 16. Ergo, I was right, you were wrong.

http://results.aec.gov.au/17496/Website/SenateDivisionFirstPrefsByVoteType-17496...

Epic fail from Armpit!!

He's posted the below-the-line results for ONE SEAT and tried to pretend that it was the results for all votes cast in all 37 seats in Victoria.

Muir actually got 17,083 first-preference votes, including above-the-line votes.

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Re: Government to change Senate voting laws
Reply #91 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 3:34pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:24am:

Kat wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 9:23am:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:39am:

Kat wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 10:25pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 5:09pm:

Kat wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 4:50pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 4:35pm:

Kat wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 2:06pm:

Swagman wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 1:54pm:

Kat wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 11:33am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 11:31am:

Kat wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 11:20am:

What part of 'NO government should EVER be permitted to control both Houses' don't these right-wing fektards understand???

oh for crying out loud...

the political retard strikes again... Roll Eyes

Kat's reliable, gotta give her that!

And 100% correct.

.....and 100% in fantasy land as usual Cheesy

Insults don't make me any less correct, either.

NOTHING could ever make you correct.

Except for the fact that I AM correct.

Suck it up.

If you think you are correct then why not put up an actual ARGUMENT instead of just venting you infected spleen?

Make your case or just shut up.

I have.

On numerous occasions.

You were probably too busy trolling, and missed it.

You are incapable of making a considered argument. You just vent your infected spleen and go back to your 4hr/wk job.

Make everyone's day - go and suffer a total existence failure.

Useless LNP troll.

More venting of you infected spleen. You lack so much... one of those things you lack is a full-time job.

Piss off and become extinct, you troll-tard.

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mariacostel

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Re: Government to change Senate voting laws
Reply #92 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:28pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:40am:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:35am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 5:52pm:

Cods, I don't care which Party has Government whether that be the Coalition, Labor, Greens or even PUP. I do not want that Party to have control of the Senate. I like what we have......some people from left field.....ordinary Australians.......in a position that the Government has to convince them (unless the other major Party supports a Government proposal in the Senate) that what they propose is good for the Country.

Why dont we just have people elected fairly and democratically and let the results speak for themselves.

what is unfair and undemocratic about the minors doing deals? the libs do it all the time and you don't whinge.

Over 50% of the population voted against the GST when it was introduced, yet you didn't call it undemocratic when Howard bought it in anyway, did you?. The public voted to bring in an ETS and you supported the libs when they refused to back it didn't you? What happened to democracy then?

It's funny how you use the undemocratic excuse when it suits but forget all about it when push comes to shove

99.5% of the population voted against Ricky Muir yet he is a senator.

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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: Government to change Senate voting laws Reply #93 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:29pm Aussie wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 2:00pm: Clive has his say. Also confirms that in his view Malcolm is just baby sitting the PMship for Abbott. Link. Why would you take any notice of a perennial fool like Palmer?
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Re: Government to change Senate voting laws
Reply #94 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:31pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 2:00pm:

Clive has his say. Also confirms that in his view Malcolm is just baby sitting the PMship for Abbott.

Link.

Why would you take any notice of a perennial fool like Palmer?

Don't. I don't care either way. But.....I'll bet he is right.

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mariacostel

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Re: Government to change Senate voting laws
Reply #95 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:31pm

Kat wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 3:34pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:24am:

Kat wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 9:23am:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:39am:

Kat wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 10:25pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 5:09pm:

Kat wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 4:50pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 4:35pm:

Kat wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 2:06pm:

Swagman wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 1:54pm:

Kat wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 12:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 11:33am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 11:31am:

Kat wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 11:20am:

What part of 'NO government should EVER be permitted to control both Houses' don't these right-wing fektards understand???

oh for crying out loud...

the political retard strikes again... Roll Eyes

Kat's reliable, gotta give her that!

And 100% correct.

.....and 100% in fantasy land as usual Cheesy

Insults don't make me any less correct, either.

NOTHING could ever make you correct.

Except for the fact that I AM correct.

Suck it up.

If you think you are correct then why not put up an actual ARGUMENT instead of just venting you infected spleen?

Make your case or just shut up.

I have.

On numerous occasions.

You were probably too busy trolling, and missed it.

You are incapable of making a considered argument. You just vent your infected spleen and go back to your 4hr/wk job.

Make everyone's day - go and suffer a total existence failure.

Useless LNP troll.

More venting of you infected spleen. You lack so much... one of those things you lack is a full-time job.

Piss off and become extinct, you troll-tard.

Spend a hard 30 minutes at work today?

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Re: Government to change Senate voting laws
Reply #96 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:32pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:31pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 2:00pm:

Clive has his say. Also confirms that in his view Malcolm is just baby sitting the PMship for Abbott.

Link.

Why would you take any notice of a perennial fool like Palmer?

Don't. I don't care either way. But.....I'll bet he is right.

Palmer is a political amateur whose only weapon is money. HE spent $50M on getting elected and then decided he didnt like it and ran away. His pitiful party followed him.

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Re: Government to change Senate voting laws
Reply #97 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:35pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:31pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 2:00pm:

Clive has his say. Also confirms that in his view Malcolm is just baby sitting the PMship for Abbott.

Link.

Why would you take any notice of a perennial fool like Palmer?

Don't. I don't care either way. But.....I'll bet he is right.

Palmer is a political amateur whose only weapon is money. HE spent $50M on getting elected and then decided he didnt like it and ran away. His pitiful party followed him.

Really? I know there is no way you'll provide a link to support either outburst.

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Re: Government to change Senate voting laws
Reply #98 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:39pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:35pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:31pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 2:00pm:

Clive has his say. Also confirms that in his view Malcolm is just baby sitting the PMship for Abbott.

Link.

Why would you take any notice of a perennial fool like Palmer?

Don't. I don't care either way. But.....I'll bet he is right.

Palmer is a political amateur whose only weapon is money. HE spent $50M on getting elected and then decided he didnt like it and ran away. His pitiful party followed him.

Really? I know there is no way you'll provide a link to support either outburst.

"political amateur" is a proven fact. He rarely shows up in parliament, clearly has no idea of how to run a party since everyone left him and has mess up almost everything he has tried in parliament before losing interest.

'amateur' is a generous assessment. FOOL is a better one.

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Re: Government to change Senate voting laws
Reply #99 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:42pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:40am:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:35am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 5:52pm:

Cods, I don't care which Party has Government whether that be the Coalition, Labor, Greens or even PUP. I do not want that Party to have control of the Senate. I like what we have......some people from left field.....ordinary Australians.......in a position that the Government has to convince them (unless the other major Party supports a Government proposal in the Senate) that what they propose is good for the Country.

Why dont we just have people elected fairly and democratically and let the results speak for themselves.

what is unfair and undemocratic about the minors doing deals? the libs do it all the time and you don't whinge.

Over 50% of the population voted against the GST when it was introduced, yet you didn't call it undemocratic when Howard bought it in anyway, did you?. The public voted to bring in an ETS and you supported the libs when they refused to back it didn't you? What happened to democracy then?

It's funny how you use the undemocratic excuse when it suits but forget all about it when push comes to shove

99.5% of the population voted against Ricky Muir yet he is a senator.

And is by FAR one of the best in the current Senate.

Piss off.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39687 Gender:	Re: Government to change Senate voting laws Reply #100 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:43pm Maria/LongLie, he has been in politics since the day of Joe the Jerk in Queensland. He has been LNP dna for more than probably touching on 2.5 decades, and was one of its major donors. Yeas, he's an amateur.
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Re: Government to change Senate voting laws
Reply #101 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:47pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:43pm:

Maria/LongLie, he has been in politics since the day of Joe the Jerk in Queensland. He has been LNP dna for more than probably touching on 2.5 decades, and was one of its major donors. Yeas, he's an amateur.

Since when has 'being a donor' made you 'in politics'. The clown got 26% at the last election in his seat and is now on just 2%. That is the kind of swing that proves the point that he has no idea what he is doing. The early days of PUP in the senate was one embarrassment after another until it all predictably unravelled. He has no clue what he is doing in politics. He is incompetent at the art of politics.

What kind of political 'expert' attacks the Clerk of the Senate for refusing to accept his bill despite it being unconstitutional?

He is a fool, as is anyone who still supports him.

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Re: Government to change Senate voting laws
Reply #102 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:48pm

Kat wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:42pm:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:40am:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:35am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 5:52pm:

Cods, I don't care which Party has Government whether that be the Coalition, Labor, Greens or even PUP. I do not want that Party to have control of the Senate. I like what we have......some people from left field.....ordinary Australians.......in a position that the Government has to convince them (unless the other major Party supports a Government proposal in the Senate) that what they propose is good for the Country.

Why dont we just have people elected fairly and democratically and let the results speak for themselves.

what is unfair and undemocratic about the minors doing deals? the libs do it all the time and you don't whinge.

Over 50% of the population voted against the GST when it was introduced, yet you didn't call it undemocratic when Howard bought it in anyway, did you?. The public voted to bring in an ETS and you supported the libs when they refused to back it didn't you? What happened to democracy then?

It's funny how you use the undemocratic excuse when it suits but forget all about it when push comes to shove

99.5% of the population voted against Ricky Muir yet he is a senator.

And is by FAR one of the best in the current Senate.

Piss off.

Long day at the bike assembly plant? Your anger is showing.

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Re: Government to change Senate voting laws
Reply #103 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:57pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:47pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:43pm:

Maria/LongLie, he has been in politics since the day of Joe the Jerk in Queensland. He has been LNP dna for more than probably touching on 2.5 decades, and was one of its major donors. Yeas, he's an amateur.

Since when has 'being a donor' made you 'in politics'. The clown got 26% at the last election in his seat and is now on just 2%. That is the kind of swing that proves the point that he has no idea what he is doing. The early days of PUP in the senate was one embarrassment after another until it all predictably unravelled. He has no clue what he is doing in politics. He is incompetent at the art of politics.

What kind of political 'expert' attacks the Clerk of the Senate for refusing to accept his bill despite it being unconstitutional?

He is a fool, as is anyone who still supports him.

Odd you would be critical about a bloke you know nothing of. He was a Life Member of the LNP and was also a delegate of the Qld LNP to National Conferences. It seems you know absolutely nothing relevant.

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Re: Government to change Senate voting laws
Reply #104 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:13pm

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 5:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:40am:

mariacostel wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:35am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 5:52pm:

Cods, I don't care which Party has Government whether that be the Coalition, Labor, Greens or even PUP. I do not want that Party to have control of the Senate. I like what we have......some people from left field.....ordinary Australians.......in a position that the Government has to convince them (unless the other major Party supports a Government proposal in the Senate) that what they propose is good for the Country.

Why dont we just have people elected fairly and democratically and let the results speak for themselves.

what is unfair and undemocratic about the minors doing deals? the libs do it all the time and you don't whinge.

Over 50% of the population voted against the GST when it was introduced, yet you didn't call it undemocratic when Howard bought it in anyway, did you?. The public voted to bring in an ETS and you supported the libs when they refused to back it didn't you? What happened to democracy then?

It's funny how you use the undemocratic excuse when it suits but forget all about it when push comes to shove

99.5% of the population voted against Ricky Muir yet he is a senator.

How do you vote against someone on a senate ticket ?

Can I vote above the line and just vote not liberal, that would make it easy for many people.

I don't believe that anyone specifically voted against Muir, they didn't did they ?

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