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http://pamelageller.com/2010/08/italy-islam-not-recognized-as-a-religion-denied-...

well, technically they have only banned islam from taking tax breaks.

but it is the thought that counts

well done Italy.

Will they cover the rudey bits on their status next time a muzzie head of state visits?

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 7:31pm:


Then where would the President of America be in most countries? sleeping in a cardboard box under a bridge? 

Iran ran rings around America over the Iraq war. Installed their own groomed Iraqi leaders into government, and virtually stole Iraq under America's nose.

They even convinced Russia into Syria.

Don't underestimate the Iranians.

well done Italy!

And now, do the same to Catholicism too please.

Soren wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 9:47pm:

All of it needs to go.

But definitely when it comes to evilness/stupidity of religion, the rank has to be 1. Islam and followed very closely behind is  2. Catholicism/Christianity.

Soren wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:19pm:


How is that PC, dimwit?

Soren wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:42pm:


do you know how to read? Where did I say they are all the same? I said all religion has to go. And on a RANK, which fundamentally implies I don't think they are the same, the worst religions are islam followed closely by Catholicism/Christianity.

Stop pulling on your decrepit foreskin and go to sleep.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 6:20am:

Has it though?  Has it really?  I think you have a very poor understanding of political correctness.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 9:56pm:


Where does Judaism rank on this list?

Oh.  Personally I'd put it at number 1.

What ever the political perspective: left, right, or inside-out, I read a lot of wishful-thinking on this forum. People love to crow about their views coming to ascendency. In the west, most things stumble along in middle of the road mediocrity. (How's that for alliterative alliances?)

The Italian initiative, as positive as it is, will likely run into all kinds of opposition from the EU, the UN, and Amnesty International to mention a few. We have to remember that the upper echelon of Western adminstrations are peopled with the enemies of freedom. It is not that its a big conspiracy of villains; in some cases, they mean well. In other cases they don't want to upset the apple cart, even if it means a massacre or two.

For this initiative to be productive, it needs to be part of a raft of policies to restrict the spread of Islam, and publicise the reality of its intention towards other cultures. That will not happen while leaders left an right blow a smoke screen between their voters and the undermining of pluralism. Good luck to the Italian people, they'll need it.

... wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 9:49am:


What about boongism, Honky? You've never been too fond of that.

Mind you, they did invent a stick...

Marla wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:


Can't see Italy doing that Marlon........and they've already tried dictatorships, so the Marx brothers are out.....

... wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 11:25am:

But you support banning some religions, why not all?

... wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 6:13pm:

So you disagree with decision in italy?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 6:10pm:

Are you an ijit on purpose or are you simply oblivious?
As Honky points out for the thickos like you at the back of the class, Italy didn't ban Islam.

It just doesn't recognise it AS a religion.

And if you now ask what the difference is then complete m0ronic ijit is correct.

Soren wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:02pm:

decrepit foreskin, did I do such a thing? But I propose we cancel recognitions of ALL religions. Much better.

Soren wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 6:02pm:


Please, when we had an aristocracy that was built around religion and state being as one we saw no beloved gawd. We saw a d1ck gawd who killed people for stealing bread.

Only when we created secular societies did our societies become very nice. And still, dickhead religious losers try to influence, and each time they try to influence it results in some kind of depravity or discrimination.

Hence, let's just cancel recognition of all religion. No more. You can believe in hocus pocus if you like, but don't expect any recognition of such stupid belief.

... wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 8:00pm:

back to your I don't care argument? Come on wes, you don't care about anything it seems!  Let's have a decent discussion about why in our secular state we should recognise one particular fcked up religion, but deny recognition to another fcked up religion? Why not just deny recognition to ALL fcked up religions?

... wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 8:04pm:

Agreed. Defund the synagogue for paying to murder citizens.
Defund catholicism for being used by the mafia for the exact same thing.

In fact, I'd go as simple as defund all of it for making people stupid.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:59pm:

You must be a lapsed Irish Catholic. Nobody else can be this stupid.

double plus good wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:57pm:


They did? Please enlighten us on this curious historic precedent, Homo.

innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 4:01pm:


Do you think? If Corey Bernardi and Donald Trump are anything to go on, I'd say there's a few others who see the Muslim as their saviors too, Innocent. Mr Abbott was so keen on invading ISIS, he sought advice from the public service on staging his own invasion. Why?

They're Muslims.

And let's not forget George W Bush. Remember, after Sept 11, he went and invaded Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia. Sure, he got his countries mixed up, but you can see how.

They both have Muslims.

Clash of civilizations, innit.

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 4:12pm:

Ijit.

Soren wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 7:28pm:


Do you know what you are, dear boy?

You’re a seeker - a sincere traveller on the long journey to the light.

Oppress the bastards.

Do you realise that young earth creationists are invoking the old testament pretty much exclusively?

freediver wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

ask them what religion they relate to.

The churches are the charities.

I asked you if you had a problem with what Jesus said or did. Are you now saying that Christianity is worse than Judaism because the old testament reflects badly on Christianity?

Of course you didn't say. Why would you respond to the question I actually asked? Let us try this again. Do you have specific problems with what jebus said or did?

It is what his followers believe that defines who Jesus is. What other record do we have?

The mumbo jumbo is always free. It's the things you have to pay for that the money is spent on.

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What don't you like about that? It sounds like a pretty cool party trick to me. Are you saying that after all the rape and pillage, this is what sticks in your mind as bad?

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Of course you would. You manage to find a problem with someone turning water into wine. Fortunately you don't get to decide what counts as charitable.

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Free wine for example?

Is there some reason you consistently misspell Jesus' name?  You know very well it's not "jebus".  I'd consider that to be deliberate disrespect. 

... wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 9:08am:

How do we really know?  For all we know it was jebus.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 9:20am:


Because it comes from the simpsons, not any historical source.

I repeat - you know very well it's not "jebus", so why do you consistently misspell it?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 9:21am:


I am confused about whether you have a problem with the water into wine trick.

When making a distinction between Christianity and Judaism, which is what you did and what I asked about, Jesus is pretty much the extent of it.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 9:45am:


Nothing about number of followers here Alevine. It sounds like you were judging the religion itself. And you would have a hard time putting Judaism above Buddhism if you are taking the number of followers into account. Hinduism has about 80 times as many followers, and Buddhism nearly 40. You must have some major issues with Jews to do that.

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I'm not. Let's shift the goal posts every single post and abandon any pretext of making sense.

freediver wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 7:13am:


Can we quote you on this, FD?