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Reply #60 - Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:45am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:34am:

One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions.

GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election.

He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation.

Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues.

He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning.

Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy.

“The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said.

“It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice.

Just shows how antisemitic she is.

The BDS is a boycott against Israel, not exclusively Israeli Jews.
So is not anti semitic.

Same as South African Apartheid Boycott wasn't anti christian.

Desperation is hiding behind anti semitic claims, rather than debate the apartheid system Israel is operating.

p.s

http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/04/01/the-ugly-little-australian-coalition-aga...

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Reply #61 - Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:46am

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:39am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:34am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:21am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:00am:

You claimed the BDS wanted all jewish people dead. And Greens supporters who backed the BDS, including a Greens Senator, were anti semitic because of this.

You really should control your blind hatred of progressive thinking people.

Where did i say that? Quote it. I said all greens members support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people. Not only is that anti semitic, but it's hardly progressive. And it definitely doesnt come from thinking people.

Tell me, why do you refuse to own your support of hamas when you clearly do?

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She ( Senator Lee Rhiannon ) is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people.

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She supports a terrorist organisation who's intentions are to destroy all Jewish people.

Thats not anti semitic

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Does she support hamas?

You owe an apology to Senator Lee Rhiannon, Greens Supporters, and the BDS movement.

Where did i mention the bds movement as the organisation that wants to destroy all jewish people?

Like i said time and again, you need to think. And stop your silly support of an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people. All greens members support hamas. Its spew worthy how dumb the party ands its members are.

By the now highlighted quote being in reply to a BDS discussion.

Just cut the bull and admit your lies are because you are Greensophobic.

My lies about what, that the greens support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people? You do support that! Own it.

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Reply #62 - Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:48am

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:34am:

One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions.

GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election.

He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation.

Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues.

He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning.

Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy.

“The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said.

“It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice.

Just shows how antisemitic she is.

The BDS is a boycott against Israel, not exclusively Israeli Jews.
So is not anti semitic.

Same as South African Apartheid Boycott wasn't anti christian.

Desperation is hiding behind anti semitic claims, rather than debate the apartheid system Israel is operating.

p.s

http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/04/01/the-ugly-little-australian-coalition-aga...

I thought israel is an apartheid state? Non jewish israelis? What?? Is that like non muslim palestinean? Oh no, hamas would have them all killed. But its ok, you suppirt that one.

And like i said, im not referring to the bds but her support of an organisation that wants to see all jewish people killed. You need to own what you stand for. Afterall, you dont disagree with any greens policies.

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Reply #63 - Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:49am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:39am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:34am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:21am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:00am:

You claimed the BDS wanted all jewish people dead. And Greens supporters who backed the BDS, including a Greens Senator, were anti semitic because of this.

You really should control your blind hatred of progressive thinking people.

Where did i say that? Quote it. I said all greens members support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people. Not only is that anti semitic, but it's hardly progressive. And it definitely doesnt come from thinking people.

Tell me, why do you refuse to own your support of hamas when you clearly do?

Quote:

She ( Senator Lee Rhiannon ) is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people.

Quote:

She supports a terrorist organisation who's intentions are to destroy all Jewish people.

Thats not anti semitic

?

Quote:

Does she support hamas?

You owe an apology to Senator Lee Rhiannon, Greens Supporters, and the BDS movement.

Where did i mention the bds movement as the organisation that wants to destroy all jewish people?

Like i said time and again, you need to think. And stop your silly support of an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people. All greens members support hamas. Its spew worthy how dumb the party ands its members are.

By the now highlighted quote being in reply to a BDS discussion.

Just cut the bull and admit your lies are because you are Greensophobic.

My lies about what, that the greens support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people? You do support that! Own it.

yes that lie.

You claimed Greens Senator supports Hamas ... then wanted me to find out if she does ... how dumb to you take all the readers of this thread !

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Reply #64 - Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:51am

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:49am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:46am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:39am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:34am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:21am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:00am:

You claimed the BDS wanted all jewish people dead. And Greens supporters who backed the BDS, including a Greens Senator, were anti semitic because of this.

You really should control your blind hatred of progressive thinking people.

Where did i say that? Quote it. I said all greens members support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people. Not only is that anti semitic, but it's hardly progressive. And it definitely doesnt come from thinking people.

Tell me, why do you refuse to own your support of hamas when you clearly do?

Quote:

She ( Senator Lee Rhiannon ) is an anti semite, as are many greens members, who support an organisation that wishes to see the death of all jewish people.

Quote:

She supports a terrorist organisation who's intentions are to destroy all Jewish people.

Thats not anti semitic

?

Quote:

Does she support hamas?

You owe an apology to Senator Lee Rhiannon, Greens Supporters, and the BDS movement.

Where did i mention the bds movement as the organisation that wants to destroy all jewish people?

Like i said time and again, you need to think. And stop your silly support of an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people. All greens members support hamas. Its spew worthy how dumb the party ands its members are.

By the now highlighted quote being in reply to a BDS discussion.

Just cut the bull and admit your lies are because you are Greensophobic.

My lies about what, that the greens support an organisation that wants to kill all jewish people? You do support that! Own it.

yes that lie.

You claimed Greens Senator supports Hamas ... then wanted me to find out if she does ... how dumb to you take all the readers of this thread !

? She of course supports hamas. Just like you do too.

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Reply #65 - Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:51am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:48am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:34am:

One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions.

GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election.

He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation.

Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues.

He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning.

Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy.

“The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said.

“It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice.

Just shows how antisemitic she is.

The BDS is a boycott against Israel, not exclusively Israeli Jews.
So is not anti semitic.

Same as South African Apartheid Boycott wasn't anti christian.

Desperation is hiding behind anti semitic claims, rather than debate the apartheid system Israel is operating.

p.s

http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/04/01/the-ugly-little-australian-coalition-aga...

And like i said, im not referring to the bds but her support of an organisation that wants to see all jewish people killed. You need to own what you stand for. Afterall, you dont disagree with any greens policies.

Where is your proof the Lee supports Hamas.
You continually claim this as fact ... yet have never stated evidence to back up your propaganda.

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Reply #66 - Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:53am

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:51am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:48am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:34am:

One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions.

GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election.

He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation.

Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues.

He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning.

Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy.

“The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said.

“It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice.

Just shows how antisemitic she is.

The BDS is a boycott against Israel, not exclusively Israeli Jews.
So is not anti semitic.

Same as South African Apartheid Boycott wasn't anti christian.

Desperation is hiding behind anti semitic claims, rather than debate the apartheid system Israel is operating.

p.s

http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/04/01/the-ugly-little-australian-coalition-aga...

And like i said, im not referring to the bds but her support of an organisation that wants to see all jewish people killed. You need to own what you stand for. Afterall, you dont disagree with any greens policies.

Where is your proof the Lee supports Hamas.
You continually claim this as fact ... yet have never stated evidence to back up your propaganda.

Oh she doesnt? Oh so she mustnt be out there demanding formal recognition of a state controlled by a terrorist organisation? Oh wait...

Seriously, you need to think some times.

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Reply #68 - Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:58am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:53am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:51am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:48am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:34am:

One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions.

GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election.

He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation.

Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues.

He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning.

Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy.

“The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said.

“It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice.

Just shows how antisemitic she is.

The BDS is a boycott against Israel, not exclusively Israeli Jews.
So is not anti semitic.

Same as South African Apartheid Boycott wasn't anti christian.

Desperation is hiding behind anti semitic claims, rather than debate the apartheid system Israel is operating.

p.s

http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/04/01/the-ugly-little-australian-coalition-aga...

And like i said, im not referring to the bds but her support of an organisation that wants to see all jewish people killed. You need to own what you stand for. Afterall, you dont disagree with any greens policies.

Where is your proof the Lee supports Hamas.
You continually claim this as fact ... yet have never stated evidence to back up your propaganda.

Oh she doesnt? Oh so she mustnt be out there demanding formal recognition of a state controlled by a terrorist organisation? Oh wait...

Seriously, you need to think some times.

Anyone who supports a two state solution wants all jews dead ?
That's what you are now twisting your lies towards.

You are likely the worst person to try and defend Israel's Apartheid System.

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Reply #69 - Feb 5^th, 2016 at 12:01pm

Israel doesn't have an apartheid system.
It's a democracy where 1m Arab citizens are entitled to vote in the election.

And Lee Rhiannon consistently defended Hamas missile attacks into Israel in 2012 and said Hamas did not use human shields when IDF footage shows they clearly do.

The woman is blinded by a hatred of the state of Israel.

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Reply #71 - Feb 5^th, 2016 at 12:12pm

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:58am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:53am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:51am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:48am:

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:45am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:36am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 11:34am:

One thing Brown was always right on was moving the Greens from that hate filled policy and rebuking Rhiannon for her Israel views publically on a number of occasions.

GREENS leader Bob Brown has carpeted future Senate colleague Lee Rhiannon for her anti-Israel stance, telling her the policy was a mistake that cost the party votes in the NSW state election.

He has also accused Julia Gillard of insulting Australians by suggesting Greens voters do not have a love of family or their nation.

Senator Brown said the Israel boycott proposal was against his advice and had alienated NSW voters when the party should have been focusing on bread-and-butter issues.

He had conveyed his views to Greens senator-elect Ms Rhiannon in a “robust” phone call this morning.

Senator Brown said the federal Greens in no way endorsed the policy.

“The NSW Greens have taken to having their own shade of foreign policy,” Senator Brown said.

“It was a mistake. I differ from Lee on that, and so do the other components of the NSW Greens, who handled so badly that part of the campaign against my advice.

Just shows how antisemitic she is.

The BDS is a boycott against Israel, not exclusively Israeli Jews.
So is not anti semitic.

Same as South African Apartheid Boycott wasn't anti christian.

Desperation is hiding behind anti semitic claims, rather than debate the apartheid system Israel is operating.

p.s

http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/04/01/the-ugly-little-australian-coalition-aga...

And like i said, im not referring to the bds but her support of an organisation that wants to see all jewish people killed. You need to own what you stand for. Afterall, you dont disagree with any greens policies.

Where is your proof the Lee supports Hamas.
You continually claim this as fact ... yet have never stated evidence to back up your propaganda.

Oh she doesnt? Oh so she mustnt be out there demanding formal recognition of a state controlled by a terrorist organisation? Oh wait...

Seriously, you need to think some times.

Anyone who supports a two state solution wants all jews dead ?
That's what you are now twisting your lies towards.

You are likely the worst person to try and defend Israel's Apartheid System.

Any one who wants a 2 state solution that excuses hamas and lets hamas control a state, yes, that means you support them.

And once again, please be consistent. Do you support a palestine state where jewish people are executed on sight?

Also, please define apartheid state in your own words, i think you dont know the meaning. Use examples from israeli laws.

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Reply #72 - Feb 5^th, 2016 at 12:14pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 12:01pm:

Israel doesn't have an apartheid system.
It's a democracy where 1m Arab citizens are entitled to vote in the election.

And Lee Rhiannon consistently defended Hamas missile attacks into Israel in 2012 and said Hamas did not use human shields when IDF footage shows they clearly do.

The woman is blinded by a hatred of the state of Israel.

She is indeed. And itll be the reason why she boycotts israel, against the wishes of her party, but sits quietly regarding our trades with countries like saudi arabia. She is antisemitic.

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Reply #74 - Feb 5^th, 2016 at 5:12pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:27am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2016 at 9:24am:

The Libs and Labs are past their use-by date

Parliament is just immature behavior pitting one adolescent group against another - a waste of money and compulsory votes

The Sun is going to burn out one day so we'd better get some intelligent adults in Parliament before it's too late

Id say remove political donations, publicly fund elections, demand manifests on first day of election, and lets see how it goes. i want parties based on ideology back, not parties based on the interests of those who donated the most.

Why would you want that? You dont think you might also want parties with competence, pragmatism and humanity? Ideology is a base-line position. How you put it together in real life is the hard part. For example, it is one thing to say 'we endorse indigenous rights' as an ideology and then try and implement that in the real world. Take for example the last 30 years of government which endorses those rights but has still failed to make a real world impact.

Ideology is easy. After all, it is mere thinking. Implementation in the real world is the hard part and generally, you dont want an ideologue anywhere near you when you try to do just that.

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