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Re: Hijab-wearing athlete to make U.S. Olympic history
Reply #90 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 5:09pm

freediver wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:

But you agree with me that she was called Muhammed, don't you?

You're so right FD - she was "called" Muhammad - incorrectly by the person who wrote the article.

Just as long as you understand how idiotic your original point was - to attempt to ridicule muslims for naming their women Muhammad.

A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #91 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 5:20pm

Soren wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

Er.... isn't she an American? There is such a thing as a surname in American culture (can I say 'American culture'?)

Correct - she would presumably adopt Muhammad as her "surname" in such circumstances as a first and last name is required. In which case you would have to agree that mocking her for being "called" Muhammad, is no less ridiculous as mocking a western girl with the surname Bruce or James or Scott for being "called" a boy's name.

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How about Ibtihaj Bint Mohammed, then. She is a bint, isn't she? We can agree on that, surely.

Depends where her Islamic heritage is. The more formal term, as per classical arabic is ابنة ('ibnat'), and many arabic cultures do not use the more colloquial "bint".

A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #92 - Feb 7^th, 2016 at 6:30pm

She lives in the USA & until the Caliphate takes over I believe it's still a western country ....

as such the semantics of how her Arabic name is applied mean squat ....

in the US you are identified as having a first name & a surname ....

you can change it by deed poll to something symbolic or ridiculous ...

but in the main it's First name... Surname

as such taking into account whose daughter she is,

she is Ibtihaj Muhammad.

Stick you pedantics where they belong.

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Reply #93 - Feb 8^th, 2016 at 6:57pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 5:09pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 7^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:

But you agree with me that she was called Muhammed, don't you?

Is she no longer called Muhammed? Why is this incorrect?

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.