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Reply #75 - Feb 6th, 2016 at 9:44pm
 
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The journalist then makes the common mistake of referring to her as 'Muhammad' in the same way as we refer to our PM as "Turnbull".


Yes I often make the mistake of calling Muslim women Muhammed. Like Karnal's wife.
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Reply #76 - Feb 6th, 2016 at 10:49pm
 
Her name is not Muhammed - do you get that bit yet?
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #77 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 5:55am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 9:00am:
GordyL wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 5:47am:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 12:40am:
Soren wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 11:04pm:
mothra wrote on Feb 5th, 2016 at 6:10am:
Why is a hijab so offensive to you folk?

It's just a scarf. Get over it.


All this multiculti BS is always one way.  The West has to learn about Islam and tolerate it but the 'Muslim' lands can go on exterminating Christians and Jews and other non-Muslims and that's seen as as an expression of their rich cultural tradition.


Soren must fear getting out of bed every morning or whatever time he stumbles out.

Its evident none of the conservatives on Ozpolitic have lived among Muslims of whom 99.99% are decent people.

Islamophobic conservatives of Ozpolitic are blathering hate from behind a veil of total ignorance.


Calling people Islamaphobes for characterising the multitudes of horrors associated with Islam is like describing people who don't want to be around asbestos as being mesothelioma-a-phobic.

NOTHING good happens when muslims move en mass into your neighbourhood


That's what all the Islamophobes say.


The Islamophobia slander is a denial of critical thought so Islam may be defended from scrutiny

The ‘Islamophobia’ slander is merely the fear that Muslims have of critical thought. They are terrified that critical thought may destroy the foundations of Islamic faith, because Islam is based on hearsay and repetition, rather than on verifiable facts.

Islam cannot survive detailed inquiry, critical analysis or close scrutiny. Islamic faith depends on unquestioning, blind acquiescence to the basic documents of Islam. Islam cannot be rigorously tested, so it must be protected by a wall of silence and death threats against the critics. Muslims know this and are touchy about admitting that Islam is a flimsy house of cards.

Faith in Islam’s teachings falls apart and collapses as soon as the historicity and amoral character of Mohammed are examined. Mohammed’s character is the greatest liability in Islam. The legendary and unhistorical nature of Islam’s early biographies of Mohammed are not supported by outside sources, making the biography of Mohammed a matter of pure speculation, if not total subjectivity.

The ‘Islamophobia’ slur is an ad hominem condemnation demeaning all critics of Islam as being mentally ill, but this is obviously not true, since rational inquiry about Islam is highly intellectual. Thus criticism of Islam is proof of one’s sanity.

Muslims want to live in liberal, Western societies, while having Islam exempted from the scrutiny of critical inquiry…which is the sort of mental process that makes those societies vibrant and desirable to live in. By removing critical thought, Muslims will make those societies as stagnant and backward as all Muslim countries, thereby defeating their reason for moving to the West.

Obama refuses to say ‘Islamic terrorism’ when referring to Islamic terrorism in case it might legitimize Islamic terrorism. Absurd. The legitimacy of Islamic terrorism comes from the foundational texts of Islam, rather than from the US president, the US congress or the US constitution.

Criticism of Islam is basically a call for Muslims to leave their barbaric Death Cult and join the civilized modern world.


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Reply #78 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 9:05am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 10:49pm:
Her name is not Muhammed - do you get that bit yet?


That's what they called her Gandalf, and you just finished explaining how it is actually her name.

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Reply #79 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 12:06pm
 
Its her 'family' name if you like. You bumbled on her crowing about how "women are called" Muhammad. No one named her Muhammad when she was born, and no one except this article "calls" her Muhammad. her parents "named" her Ibtihaj. As i said before, what you said is even stupider than mocking an aussie girl with a surname Bruce or Scott or James for being "called" a boy.
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Reply #80 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 12:24pm
 
A very well argued case Gordy but you're basically beating your head against a brick wall.

It's mainly the cretinous person spambots like LTYC or the brainwashed liberal progressives, fearful of not being liked on Facebook, who use the islamophobia label rather than most integrated Muslims like gandalf.
And there is little point in arguing with the irrational
The intelligent know what the problem is and it suffices to post the self-evident truth in the news.

That may make the blind eventually see and in the meantime it will annoy the hell out of the others.
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Reply #81 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 12:34pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 9:09pm:
FD what you said is almost as stupid as pointing at a girl whose surname is Scott or James and saying she's named after a boy.

Besides, there is no concept of a surname in muslim culture. She is referred to as Muhammed because thats her father's name.



Er.... isn't she an American? There is such a thing as a surname in American culture (can I say 'American culture'?)

How about Ibtihaj Bint Mohammed, then. She is a bint, isn't she? We can agree on that, surely.


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Reply #82 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 12:46pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 12:34pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 9:09pm:
FD what you said is almost as stupid as pointing at a girl whose surname is Scott or James and saying she's named after a boy.

Besides, there is no concept of a surname in muslim culture. She is referred to as Muhammed because thats her father's name.



Er.... isn't she an American? There is such a thing as a surname in American culture (can I say 'American culture'?)

How about Ibtihaj Bint Mohammed, then. She is a bint, isn't she? We can agree on that, surely.



Soren poops again.

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bint  (bĭnt)
n. Chiefly British & Offensive
A woman or girl.
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Reply #83 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 1:35pm
 
     Bint after female name indicates that she is the "Daugther of"
Salma Bint Hanifa means salma daughter of Hanifa

http://islam.worldofislam.info/index.php/component/content/article?id=90:name-st...
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Reply #84 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 2:17pm
 
Did you notice LTYC didn't give the link to where he copied and pasted from? Here is why:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bint

bint  (bĭnt)
n. Chiefly British & Offensive
A woman or girl.
[Arabic, daughter; see bn in Semitic roots.]


Thanks LTYC

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 12:06pm:
Its her 'family' name if you like. You bumbled on her crowing about how "women are called" Muhammad. No one named her Muhammad when she was born, and no one except this article "calls" her Muhammad. her parents "named" her Ibtihaj. As i said before, what you said is even stupider than mocking an aussie girl with a surname Bruce or Scott or James for being "called" a boy.


Yes yes Gandalf, very stupid of me. But you agree with me that she was called Muhammed, don't you?
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Reply #85 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 3:24pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 2:17pm:
Did you notice LTYC didn't give the link to where he copied and pasted from? Here is why:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bint

bint  (bĭnt)
n. Chiefly British & Offensive
A woman or girl.
[Arabic, daughter; see bn in Semitic roots.]


Thanks LTYC

Yes yes Gandalf, very stupid of me. But you agree with me that she was called Muhammed, don't you?


In pom and closet pom slang "bint" is an insult. This exemplifies Soren's and Freediver's Islamophobia and their usual resort to insult.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bint
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Bint
English slang for a whore or bitch. Similar to a tart.
"Look...you can't proclaim yourself king just because some moistend bint lobbed a scimitar at you." -Monty Python, Holy Grail

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Reply #86 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 3:36pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 12:24pm:
A very well argued case Gordy but you're basically beating your head against a brick wall.

It's mainly the cretinous person spambots like LTYC or the brainwashed liberal progressives, fearful of not being liked on Facebook, who use the islamophobia label rather than most integrated Muslims like gandalf.
And there is little point in arguing with the irrational
The intelligent know what the problem is and it suffices to post the self-evident truth in the news.

That may make the blind eventually see and in the meantime it will annoy the hell out of the others.


Oh well. Hope their IP is logged so when the reckoning comes they will be tried as collaborators. Wink
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Reply #87 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 3:39pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 12:24pm:
A very well argued case Gordy but you're basically beating your head against a brick wall.


Bricks are no match for Gordy's head.
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Reply #88 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 4:00pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 3:39pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 12:24pm:
A very well argued case Gordy but you're basically beating your head against a brick wall.


Bricks are no match for Gordy's head.


Is that the best you got?
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Reply #89 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 4:17pm
 
GordyL wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 4:00pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 3:39pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 12:24pm:
A very well argued case Gordy but you're basically beating your head against a brick wall.


Bricks are no match for Gordy's head.


Is that the best you got?


Brick walls are no match for Gordy's head. How is Gordy's head with facts and truths?
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