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Re: ALP's Grassroot Screwed Over Yet Again
Reply #45 - Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:51am
 
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:37am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:28am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:16am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:05am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:57am:
Alevine, I understand you as a labor supporter, don't like discussing dirty deals within labor that decreases grassroot power within the party.

If you are not going to post on topic, how about starting another thread and then trolling that one and not this one.

Consider your trolling here is a bad look for labor supporters.

Not a labor supporter. Ex greens actually.   



Seems nearly everyones 'not a labor supporter' now days.

Far more ex greens ever since the destruction of climate change policy in australia, their incomprehensible asylum seeker policies, and their love of terrorists.



Greens 25-30% increase in current polling, from the base of  the last federal election result, proves you are misguided.

Wonder what percentage of this growth in Greens' increase are ex labor grassrooters, sick of the alp's factional deals ?

Two polls put Greens at 10%, means 7% at an actual election. Greens is a bit of a protest vote when being polled.
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Re: ALP's Grassroot Screwed Over Yet Again
Reply #46 - Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:53am
 
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 6:10pm:
Threads on the ALP factions screwing over their grassrooters.
You still haven't posted on topic.
And we both know you will avoid it since you secretly support labor and it's hypocrisy.


I get peeved by people who continually post 'offtopic' too
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Re: ALP's Grassroot Screwed Over Yet Again
Reply #47 - Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:50am
 
____ wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 5:40am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 5:31pm:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 10:41am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 10:26am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 10:18am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 10:12am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:50am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:43am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:37am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:16am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:28am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:05am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:57am:
Alevine, I understand you as a labor supporter, don't like discussing dirty deals within labor that decreases grassroot power within the party.

If you are not going to post on topic, how about starting another thread and then trolling that one and not this one.

Consider your trolling here is a bad look for labor supporters.

Not a labor supporter. Ex greens actually.   



Seems nearly everyones 'not a labor supporter' now days.

Far more ex greens ever since the destruction of climate change policy in australia, their incomprehensible asylum seeker policies, and their love of terrorists.



Greens 25-30% increase in current polling, from the base of  the last federal election result, proves you are misguided.

Wonder what percentage of this growth in Greens' increase are ex labor grassrooters, sick of the alp's factional deals ?


One time voters.   While the greens continue to support terrorism theyll never see their actual base increase to major league.



A. Greens base is growing and Greens has the potential of being the main political force, not only in Oz, globally.

B. Claims by a proven internet troll, concerning fictional links with terrorism, will not influence this path the Greens are on.


The links are blatantly obvious.  You yourself support hamas.



I support a two state solution. If this includes Hamas, so be it.

Equating my personal opinion to where the Greens stand on Israel's apartheid system, shows how desperate you are to try and shift discussions away from the factional deals in Labor that are against the wishes of grassrooters of the party.

Attempted shifting attention away from the hypocrisy of Bill Shorten, on his flip flopping concerning transparency.


If the greens are going to be the next force as you think then who cares about labor? Its much more important to understand why people who blurt out such nonsense as israels apartheid system, without knowing what they are talking about, are joining up with the greens party.  It is also concerning you support terrorism.





You heard it here ... anyone who supports a two state solution supports terrorism.



Bill Shorten clears the way for Labor shift on recognition of Palestine

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shorten-clears-the-wa...

NSW Right power broker Tony Burke will lead the push for a historic shift in Labor's position on the recognition of a Palestinian state at the party's July national conference, under an agreement hammered out with Bill Shorten.

Mr Burke will propose a resolution at conference expected to mirror that put at NSW Labor conference last July. It stated if no progress was made towards a two-state solution "and Israel continues to build and expand settlements, a future Labor government will consult like-minded nations towards recognition of the Palestinian state".

You openly support hamas actions. Different to 2 stste solution. But keep hiding, its good that you feel ashamed of your support for terrorism.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11599932/New-Israeli...


Typical greens terrorist, you are.  You support Hamas and its clear objective of destroying Israel, and instead try to label a democracy as a dictatorial fascist regime. Pathetic.  Everyone knows that the only way to a solution is to rid the world of Hamas.  Get rid of Hamas and the result is the restoration of progressive politics in Israel, And a chance at peace. And yet you support them educating children to kill Jews.  How completely disturbing that you support terrorism.

The difference between me and you.  I despise this Israeli government but recognise Israel is a democracy and the only way to have people vote for a left government again is to rid the ever tiresome threat from Hamas.  Hence Hamas needs to go.  On the other hand, Hamas is no longer democratically elected and just decided to extend its own rule for their own purpose to try and fullfill their charter and get rid of Israel.  Another note: you use examples of a person with an INDIVIDUAL OPINION and denounce Israel government who's policy is NOT to get rid of the notion of a Palestine state. Yet the group who's CHARTER explicitly states destroy all Jews you call freedom fighters and openly support.

Truly pathetic.
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Re: ALP's Grassroot Screwed Over Yet Again
Reply #48 - Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:55am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 7:47am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:08am:
Alevine is a one trick troll, and so is a lost cause.

How about other alp pro posters. Do you people understand that every new factional puppet promoted, is another nail in the ALP's coffin?

How about answering Alevine’s question?

Because he's blinded by his support of Hamas, and his parties support of terrorists.
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Re: ALP's Grassroot Screwed Over Yet Again
Reply #49 - Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:29am
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 8:50am:
____ wrote on Feb 3rd, 2016 at 5:40am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 5:31pm:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 10:41am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 10:26am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 10:18am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 10:12am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:50am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:43am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:37am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:16am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:28am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 9:05am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:57am:
Alevine, I understand you as a labor supporter, don't like discussing dirty deals within labor that decreases grassroot power within the party.

If you are not going to post on topic, how about starting another thread and then trolling that one and not this one.

Consider your trolling here is a bad look for labor supporters.

Not a labor supporter. Ex greens actually.   



Seems nearly everyones 'not a labor supporter' now days.

Far more ex greens ever since the destruction of climate change policy in australia, their incomprehensible asylum seeker policies, and their love of terrorists.



Greens 25-30% increase in current polling, from the base of  the last federal election result, proves you are misguided.

Wonder what percentage of this growth in Greens' increase are ex labor grassrooters, sick of the alp's factional deals ?


One time voters.   While the greens continue to support terrorism theyll never see their actual base increase to major league.



A. Greens base is growing and Greens has the potential of being the main political force, not only in Oz, globally.

B. Claims by a proven internet troll, concerning fictional links with terrorism, will not influence this path the Greens are on.


The links are blatantly obvious.  You yourself support hamas.



I support a two state solution. If this includes Hamas, so be it.

Equating my personal opinion to where the Greens stand on Israel's apartheid system, shows how desperate you are to try and shift discussions away from the factional deals in Labor that are against the wishes of grassrooters of the party.

Attempted shifting attention away from the hypocrisy of Bill Shorten, on his flip flopping concerning transparency.


If the greens are going to be the next force as you think then who cares about labor? Its much more important to understand why people who blurt out such nonsense as israels apartheid system, without knowing what they are talking about, are joining up with the greens party.  It is also concerning you support terrorism.





You heard it here ... anyone who supports a two state solution supports terrorism.



Bill Shorten clears the way for Labor shift on recognition of Palestine

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shorten-clears-the-wa...

NSW Right power broker Tony Burke will lead the push for a historic shift in Labor's position on the recognition of a Palestinian state at the party's July national conference, under an agreement hammered out with Bill Shorten.

Mr Burke will propose a resolution at conference expected to mirror that put at NSW Labor conference last July. It stated if no progress was made towards a two-state solution "and Israel continues to build and expand settlements, a future Labor government will consult like-minded nations towards recognition of the Palestinian state".

You openly support hamas actions. Different to 2 stste solution. But keep hiding, its good that you feel ashamed of your support for terrorism.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11599932/New-Israeli...


Typical greens terrorist, you are.  You support Hamas and its clear objective of destroying Israel, and instead try to label a democracy as a dictatorial fascist regime. Pathetic.  Everyone knows that the only way to a solution is to rid the world of Hamas.  Get rid of Hamas and the result is the restoration of progressive politics in Israel, And a chance at peace. And yet you support them educating children to kill Jews.  How completely disturbing that you support terrorism.

The difference between me and you.  I despise this Israeli government but recognise Israel is a democracy and the only way to have people vote for a left government again is to rid the ever tiresome threat from Hamas.  Hence Hamas needs to go.  On the other hand, Hamas is no longer democratically elected and just decided to extend its own rule for their own purpose to try and fullfill their charter and get rid of Israel.  Another note: you use examples of a person with an INDIVIDUAL OPINION and denounce Israel government who's policy is NOT to get rid of the notion of a Palestine state. Yet the group who's CHARTER explicitly states destroy all Jews you call freedom fighters and openly support.

Truly pathetic.



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Reply #50 - Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:33am
 
Labor using a process to select representative who can win in favour of those who would lose in an election is not exactly a terrible idea ?
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Re: ALP's Grassroot Screwed Over Yet Again
Reply #51 - Feb 3rd, 2016 at 9:48am
 
Own your support of terrorism.
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