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ALP's Grassroot Screwed Over Yet Again
Feb 1st, 2016 at 8:14pm
 
Labor factional bosses and union leaders — rather than rank and file ALP members — are likely to choose the candidate for the prestigious Victorian seat of Wills, once held by former prime minister Bob Hawke.

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The preselection process for Wills began on Sunday
Peter Khalil likely to be preselected amid influence of union and factional bosses
Calls for local party members to have a greater say in selecting MPs
This is despite calls across the country for local party members to have a greater say in selecting members of parliament.

Labor leader Bill Shorten, who has been bedevilled by poor polls, has refused to intervene in the process, even though he has previously said the party desperately needs greater transparency.

The seat in Melbourne's northern suburbs has the largest Labor membership of any Victorian seat, but is now under threat from the Greens, who hold the neighbouring seat of Melbourne.

The two-step preselection process began on Sunday and will finish on Wednesday.

Critics within the party have pointed to the Wills preselection process — triggered by the impending retirement of long-term MP Kelvin Thomson — as emblematic of the way factional powerbrokers trade influence and votes to install their acolytes while ignoring the party's members.

In the early stages of the preselection battle, late last year, the frontrunner was long-time local numbers man Mehmet Tillem, a former Federal senator who has developed a strong network of local branches loyal to him, and is backed by party heavyweight and factional player Senator Stephen Conroy.

The prospect of Mr Tillem succeeding Mr Thomson was greeted with horror by many in the party, who believed that the election of a figure so closely associated with cynical Labor machine politics would send voters in the southern half of the electorate fleeing to the Greens.

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-01/factional-union-bosses-likely-to-decide-ou...
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Reply #1 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 6:57am
 
Pro labor posters all quiet on labor factions dumping on you, the grassroot members.

Gee, being such pussies may be the reason you get walked all over.

Thoughts?
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Reply #2 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:01am
 
Will the greens stop killing trees please.
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Reply #3 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:07am
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:01am:
Will the greens stop killing trees please.



Deflection ... must be because labor grassroot like being treated like dog faecal matter created from the consumption of a plate of chum.

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Reply #4 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:31am
 
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:07am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:01am:
Will the greens stop killing trees please.



Deflection ... must be because labor grassroot like being treated like dog faecal matter created from the consumption of a plate of chum.


But why do greens enjoy killing trees?
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Reply #5 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:44am
 

The ALP here in QLD are looking after their base support - they are repealing the VLAD laws.

That'll cement the bikies votes
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Reply #6 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:45am
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:31am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:07am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:01am:
Will the greens stop killing trees please.



Deflection ... must be because labor grassroot like being treated like dog faecal matter created from the consumption of a plate of chum.


But why do greens enjoy killing trees?



Because it's better than killing off species, including humanity ... as labor is working towards.
Now finished with the trolling?

Perhaps you could explain why extremely nice people (going on the ones I interact with in the non cyber realm), who are Labor's grassroot, accept this treatment.

Do alp grassrooters realise that their silence and acceptance of this behaviour is a major part of the problem?
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Reply #7 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:04am
 
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:45am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:31am:
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:07am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:01am:
Will the greens stop killing trees please.



Deflection ... must be because labor grassroot like being treated like dog faecal matter created from the consumption of a plate of chum.


But why do greens enjoy killing trees?



Because it's better than killing off species, including humanity ... as labor is working towards.
Now finished with the trolling?

Perhaps you could explain why extremely nice people (going on the ones I interact with in the non cyber realm), who are Labor's grassroot, accept this treatment.

Do alp grassrooters realise that their silence and acceptance of this behaviour is a major part of the problem?


Why did the greens grassrooters (including the actual ones with a sexual fetish) accept the destruction of climate change policy in this country?
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Reply #8 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:08am
 
Alevine is a one trick troll, and so is a lost cause.

How about other alp pro posters. Do you people understand that every new factional puppet promoted, is another nail in the ALP's coffin?
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Reply #9 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:15am
 
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:08am:
Alevine is a one trick troll, and so is a lost cause.

How about other alp pro posters. Do you people understand that every new factional puppet promoted, is another nail in the ALP's coffin?

You haven't answered.  Have you contacted your greens reps and denounced their climate change policy destruction?
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Reply #10 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:29am
 
Labor appeal to the cry baby narrative....the self pity of the mediocre who refuses to pull himself up by the bootstrap.

Greens appeal to the overly emotional narrative....the fake moral outrage and whirring emotional turmoil that goes on in the mind of someone with attention deficit disorder. they appeal to the twittersphere....people who can only maintain focus for 15 seconds and wont read anything more then a 20 word tweet.


Both are coming from a position of low consciousness.
Both do not recognise the importance of "contribution" as the highest level of human achievement.

Both greens and labor come from a "scarcity" mentality.
Labor believe that there is a scarcity of success and that all successful people are trying to step on someones head.
greens believe there is a scarcity of resources and that everyone else (ie except themselves) should live in a mud hut and stop using up the resources the greens want to selfishly hog.

Both parties are in a "surviving, not thriving' mindset.

of course, they will do well at the ballot box as a large % of the population also have a mental dysfunction and so will chose to "vibe" with their negative and neurotic narrative . Wink Wink
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Reply #11 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:30am
 
Factions will destroy Labor from the inside


Labor's latest crop of festering messes can be traced back to its factional system, which rewards patronage and shady deals.

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/andrews-must-reach-past-factions-to-rescue-labo...

Labor's grassroot can no longer put on the act of passive victims. You people are part of the problem, and is why your party is on it's way out.

Where is the grassroot outrage. All there is so far is deflection from a labor supporter slash troll.

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Reply #12 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:34am
 
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:08am:
Alevine is a one trick troll, and so is a lost cause.

How about other alp pro posters. Do you people understand that every new factional puppet promoted, is another nail in the ALP's coffin?




I never understand where these people come from...

is there a stepping ladder to getting pre selected??..

I understand where Bill shortarse came from....and Bob Hawke.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

  how do they select their reps..

.apart from the pre requisite union membership.... what other must haves do they need...

lets face it they havent made the right choice for a leader.....since Bob Hawke...... Grin Grin Grin Grin

so who does in fact preselect the winners?..
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Reply #13 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:47am
 
____ wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:30am:
Factions will destroy Labor from the inside


Labor's latest crop of festering messes can be traced back to its factional system, which rewards patronage and shady deals.

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/andrews-must-reach-past-factions-to-rescue-labo...

Labor's grassroot can no longer put on the act of passive victims. You people are part of the problem, and is why your party is on it's way out.

Where is the grassroot outrage. All there is so far is deflection from a labor supporter slash troll.



Are the greens grassroots happy that their party has gone away from its policies?
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Reply #14 - Feb 2nd, 2016 at 8:54am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2016 at 7:44am:
The ALP here in QLD are looking after their base support - they are repealing the VLAD laws.

That'll cement the bikies votes



are they? link please
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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