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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: The Majority Of Voters Say No To GST Increase Reply #30 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 8:42am Come on righties we need some consistency here, where is the same level of outrage about a tax that will cost much much much more than any CT? righties ? Cat got your tongue ?
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Reply #31 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 8:44am

Labor voter wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 8:36am:

cods wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 8:20am:

____ wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 8:05am:

Struggling households that are under massive financial pressures are not willing to fork over more taxes so to help out the share values of companies.

No wonder timid Turnbull will not stake the Liberals to a GST position. The coalition are such cowards now.

Bring back Abbott so the Libs can regain so courage.

im not struggling nor do I smoke or drink or gamble... all highly TAXED by both State and Fed govts..

if you spend wisely ... you wouldnt pay any gst....

do you really think 5% on what we pay now will make a huge difference to struggle street??

if they were into buying boats or new cars every two years and updating their homes I would say YES....otherwise...most food doesnt have GST...

your a bunch of whingers....dont appreciate how lucky you are..

They are even thinking of putting GST on fresh food, health and education. You know what fresh food, health and education will go up 15% not 5% as most people think that fresh food, health and education will only go up 5%

something has got to GO UP... dont you get that?

its an alternative.....either 15% on what we have or 10% on what doesnt have gst as of now...

we are about the lowest in the world....and still we whinge.

next time you shop just look at the GST you paid.....its not 10% of the total bill...

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Reply #32 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 8:45am

It is ironic that every poster here seems to think this is a bad result. Given that a small majority oppose it at this stage is a very good result! New taxes are never going to be popular. There will always be a hard core of people who would oppose new taxes no matter what else is included. But this figure of 54% opposition comes without and detail on the compensation packages. The Howard GST was also quite unpopular but improved markedly once the huge reductions in income tax and the large increases in welfare payments were announced.

The Liberals would be heartened by this result. With a good marketing campaign, they should be easily able to improve that by 10-15 points.

One of the most important things to be noted is that the polls also show government support solid at 53/47 with a small INCREASE in their vote. It is hardly bad news for the GST increase.

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Reply #33 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 8:55am

Swagman wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 8:40am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:48am:

Tax everyone harder = less disposable income = less economic growth.

Seems straightforward enough to me!

I am sure Swaggie would advocate that! Roll Eyes

Yes that's true to an extent, which is why any GST increase would have to factor in some sort of compensation and / or spending boost.

____ wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 8:05am:

Struggling households that are under massive financial pressures are not willing to fork over more taxes so to help out the share values of companies.

That's out of left field? How does an increase in the GST help out the share values of companies?

At any rate the important point about a GST increase that Leftists totally ignore is that it's the poor that benefit the most out of taxation.

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NSW Premier Mike Baird, who last year proposed increasing the GST to 15% in order to pay for looming health and education cost shortfalls in state budgets, has announced a refreshed plan that includes significant cuts to the company tax rate and personal income taxes.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/mike-bairds-updated-gst-increase-plan-2016-2

Cutting the company tax rate so to lift their share value... how do the poor benefit with the big end of town gaining more through their share portfolios ... are the hard right planning on introducing a US style tipping culture?

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Reply #34 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:08am

cods wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 8:17am:

unless you are into fancy holidays overseas that is... .

Now that's hitting below the belt, btw didn't you have a holiday overseas about a year ago? The child bride and I have been surviving on tinned dog food for months to save up for this you know!

Grin

Just remember cods its not about how you or I are affected, it about the normal mums and dads on average wages raising a family vs big business trying to have taxes changes introduced that favour them. Rent seeking is the term

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Reply #36 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:15am

I had to laugh at the ABC's attempt to make it sound like a good news story for the govt.

'More than one-third of voters back GST hike: Newspoll'

the righties were right all along, the ABC is biased after all.... to the right.

If it had been the carbon tax they were discussing it would have read

'two-thirds of voters OPPOSE the Carbon tax'

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: The Majority Of Voters Say No To GST Increase Reply #37 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:15am bogarde73 wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:14am: "The Majority Of Voters Say No To GST Increase". Say something that will surprise me. Should've kept the CT
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Reply #38 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:18am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:59am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:48am:

Tax everyone harder = less disposable income = less economic growth.

Seems straightforward enough to me!

I am sure Swaggie would advocate that! Roll Eyes

You seem to forget that a rise in the GST to 15% would be offset by axing a heap of other taxes, along with compensation for low income earners.

so why raise it if you're just going to give it back?

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Reply #39 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:19am

mariacostel wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 8:45am:

It is ironic that every poster here seems to think this is a bad result. Given that a small majority oppose it at this stage is a very good result! New taxes are never going to be popular. There will always be a hard core of people who would oppose new taxes no matter what else is included. But this figure of 54% opposition comes without and detail on the compensation packages. The Howard GST was also quite unpopular but improved markedly once the huge reductions in income tax and the large increases in welfare payments were announced.

The Liberals would be heartened by this result. With a good marketing campaign, they should be easily able to improve that by 10-15 points.

One of the most important things to be noted is that the polls also show government support solid at 53/47 with a small INCREASE in their vote. It is hardly bad news for the GST increase.

a good result? nice try Grin

37 % are in favour, about the same percentage of die hard libs like you that would support the libs no matter what they proposed.

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Reply #40 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:34am

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:18am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:59am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:48am:

Tax everyone harder = less disposable income = less economic growth.

Seems straightforward enough to me!

I am sure Swaggie would advocate that! Roll Eyes

You seem to forget that a rise in the GST to 15% would be offset by axing a heap of other taxes, along with compensation for low income earners.

so why raise it if you're just going to give it back?

Differences in deadweight losses.

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Reply #41 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:36am

Jovial Monk wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 8:41am:

That graph is garbage! The GST hits workers when they go out and consume.

With overseas–owned companies the profit flows out the country (my god how it flows out!) And so on, garbage graph!

Do you have anything to substantiate that the deadweight losses are not as shown. If so, please elaborate. If not then piss off.

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Reply #42 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:44am

mariacostel wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 8:45am:

It is ironic that every poster here seems to think this is a bad result. Given that a small majority oppose it at this stage is a very good result! New taxes are never going to be popular. There will always be a hard core of people who would oppose new taxes no matter what else is included. But this figure of 54% opposition comes without and detail on the compensation packages. The Howard GST was also quite unpopular but improved markedly once the huge reductions in income tax and the large increases in welfare payments were announced.

The Liberals would be heartened by this result. With a good marketing campaign, they should be easily able to improve that by 10-15 points.

One of the most important things to be noted is that the polls also show government support solid at 53/47 with a small INCREASE in their vote. It is hardly bad news for the GST increase.

solid at 53/47 with a small INCREASE in their vote.

You have been crowing about 55 to 45 for weeks. How can 53 to 47 be a slight improvement ?

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Reply #43 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:46am

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:18am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:59am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:48am:

Tax everyone harder = less disposable income = less economic growth.

Seems straightforward enough to me!

I am sure Swaggie would advocate that! Roll Eyes

You seem to forget that a rise in the GST to 15% would be offset by axing a heap of other taxes, along with compensation for low income earners.

so why raise it if you're just going to give it back?

SSSHhhhhhh don't tell anyone but they are not really going to give it all back.

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Reply #44 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:47am

John Smith wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 9:18am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:59am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:48am:

Tax everyone harder = less disposable income = less economic growth.

Seems straightforward enough to me!

I am sure Swaggie would advocate that! Roll Eyes

You seem to forget that a rise in the GST to 15% would be offset by axing a heap of other taxes, along with compensation for low income earners.

so why raise it if you're just going to give it back?

Tax changes that will ultimately favour the rich,

They will be also giving it back to big business in company tax cuts ...

Rent seeking by the big end of town. Using their influence on the conservative assholes to have tax changes introduced that favour the rich companies

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