Australian Politics Forum - Google takesover ABC

random Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2637 Gender:	Google takesover ABC Jan 31^st, 2016 at 8:01pm Given that Google has been identified as an arm of the US intelligence network, the appointment of Michelle Guthrie as Managing Director is a concern to anyone worried about the ABCs ability to feed us reliable information. Looks like 4Corners will be moderated more than it has been before.
Back to top	So many farkwits, so little time. IP Logged

double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: Google takesover ABC Reply #1 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 8:36pm The ABC's like ashtrays in cars. Just not really necessary in this day and age.
Back to top	IP Logged

random Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2637 Gender:	Re: Google takesover ABC Reply #2 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 8:40pm I disagree. Other than the ABC all other broadcasting is totally under control, feeding the sheeple. Now the last bastion has been breached. "She does not have a background as a journalist or program-maker and has no public broadcasting experience." Given that, she must have some other values required.
Back to top	So many farkwits, so little time. IP Logged

double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: Google takesover ABC Reply #3 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 9:00pm It's feeding the sheeple, alright. Just different sheeple.
Back to top	IP Logged

lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19955 Gender:	Re: Google takesover ABC Reply #4 - Jan 31^st, 2016 at 10:03pm double plus good wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 8:36pm: The ABC's like ashtrays in cars. Just not really necessary in this day and age. random wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 8:40pm: I disagree. Random thinks ashtrays are essential in cars.
Back to top	IP Logged

random

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 2637
Gender: male

Re: Google takesover ABC
Reply #5 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 6:35am

So we have an unqualified Google employee taking over the ABC after an intensive period of the Liberal government trying to muzzle them.

As well the budget has been cut to the point where the ABC will have to start advertising to keep the doors open. Once that happens they will also be beholden to the advertisers. What if mining and or logging companies want to advertise? That would affect the interest is investigative journalism they are known for.

But the most interesting links are the history of staff movements as a method of spreading influence, as in the US State Department to Google, then Google to other organizations. There is evidence that Google is now just an arm of the US intelligence services.

This from Julian Assange:

"Only a few months before he met with me, Cohen was planning a trip to the edge of Iran in Azerbaijan to “engage the Iranian communities closer to the border,” as part of a Google Ideas’ project on “repressive societies.” In internal emails Stratfor’s vice president for intelligence, Fred Burton (himself a former State Department security official), wrote:

Google is getting WH [White House] and State Dept support and air cover. In reality they are doing things the CIA cannot do…

[Cohen] is going to get himself kidnapped or killed. Might be the best thing to happen to expose Google’s covert role in foaming up-risings, to be blunt. The US Gov’t can then disavow knowledge and Google is left holding the poo-bag."

Back to top

So many farkwits, so little time.

IP Logged

Dnarever

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 61264
Here
Gender: male

Re: Google takesover ABC
Reply #6 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 6:40am

lee wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 10:03pm:

double plus good wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 8:36pm:

The ABC's like ashtrays in cars. Just not really necessary in this day and age.

random wrote on Jan 31^st, 2016 at 8:40pm:

I disagree.

Random thinks ashtrays are essential in cars.

I think he is saying that the ashtrays are a straw man construct, he would be correct.

We will eventually find out but the appointment does seem to be what would be expected. Unfortunately people with legal backgrounds and in this case industry experience do tend to be attractive options. Probably another righty leader as was Scott.

Back to top

IP Logged

Dnarever

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 61264
Here
Gender: male

Re: Google takesover ABC
Reply #7 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 6:43am

random wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 6:35am:

So we have an unqualified Google employee taking over the ABC after an intensive period of the Liberal government trying to muzzle them.

She actually has significant industry background.

Quote:

She subsequently worked for British Sky Broadcasting (BSkyB) in London before becoming director of legal and business development for Foxtel in Sydney in 1998. She then moved to Hong Kong, rising to become CEO of News Corporation broadcaster, Star TV.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/broadcast/abc-set-to-appoint-mich...

Back to top

IP Logged

random Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2637 Gender:	Re: Google takesover ABC Reply #8 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:37am No experience working for a Public Broadcaster. Looks like the government wants the ABC to move towards the model she if familiar working in. More paying, more advertising, more control. There goes the last source of trusted information we had.
Back to top	So many farkwits, so little time. IP Logged

cods

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 88048

Re: Google takesover ABC
Reply #9 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:40am

random wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 6:35am:

So we have an unqualified Google employee taking over the ABC after an intensive period of the Liberal government trying to muzzle them.

As well the budget has been cut to the point where the ABC will have to start advertising to keep the doors open. Once that happens they will also be beholden to the advertisers. What if mining and or logging companies want to advertise? That would affect the interest is investigative journalism they are known for.

But the most interesting links are the history of staff movements as a method of spreading influence, as in the US State Department to Google, then Google to other organizations. There is evidence that Google is now just an arm of the US intelligence services.

This from Julian Assange:

"Only a few months before he met with me, Cohen was planning a trip to the edge of Iran in Azerbaijan to “engage the Iranian communities closer to the border,” as part of a Google Ideas’ project on “repressive societies.” In internal emails Stratfor’s vice president for intelligence, Fred Burton (himself a former State Department security official), wrote:

Google is getting WH [White House] and State Dept support and air cover. In reality they are doing things the CIA cannot do…

[Cohen] is going to get himself kidnapped or killed. Might be the best thing to happen to expose Google’s covert role in foaming up-risings, to be blunt. The US Gov’t can then disavow knowledge and Google is left holding the poo-bag."

the budget hasnt been cut..

they have just been asked to be more ACCOUNTABLE>.

no more $50.000 coffee machines...now that will hurt... dont they get something like $4bil.

Back to top

IP Logged

aquascoot

Gold Member

Online

Australian Politics

Posts: 37405
Gender: male

Re: Google takesover ABC
Reply #10 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:43am

There is a serious disconnect between the ABC and the good people of "real australia"

I was listening to the ABC a while back and they were talking about aboriginals in custody in the NT.

the reporter said that aborigines were 5 % of the population but comprised over 50 % of the prison population and that this statistic was one that should cause "great shame"

i thought (as a real australian)...well this is interesting, she is saying aboriginals should be ashamed of themselves as so many are in prison. this is odd for the ABC....

But alas....she then went on to say how the "real australians' should be ashamed for locking up so many criminals.

Her line of logic is just messed up.

Only failed journos inhabit the coridoors of the ABC.
people with serious mental health issues Wink

Back to top

IP Logged

cods

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 88048

Re: Google takesover ABC
Reply #11 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:50am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:43am:

There is a serious disconnect between the ABC and the good people of "real australia"

I was listening to the ABC a while back and they were talking about aboriginals in custody in the NT.

the reporter said that aborigines were 5 % of the population but comprised over 50 % of the prison population and that this statistic was one that should cause "great shame"

i thought (as a real australian)...well this is interesting, she is saying aboriginals should be ashamed of themselves as so many are in prison. this is odd for the ABC....

But alas....she then went on to say how the "real australians' should be ashamed for locking up so many criminals.

Her line of logic is just messed up.

Only failed journos inhabit the coridoors of the ABC.
people with serious mental health issues Wink

its a frustrating problem that isnt going to go away any time soon..

it will probably be another 100 years before aboriginals take full responsibility for their own welfare......its sad but thats how I see it..

at the moment they have too many people gioving them excuses for their behavior....they are dragging the past like a badge of honor or a sack of ashes on their backs....poor me poor us...

they dont realise it turns people away....

until they meet us halfway....this is how it will play out...

they are in jail in NT thanks to GROG...but if whitey says no GROG for aboriginals..

well we all know what happens... dont we??..

it will take time aqua... but one day they will see the light.

Back to top

IP Logged

Dnarever

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 61264
Here
Gender: male

Re: Google takesover ABC
Reply #12 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:51am

cods wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:40am:

random wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 6:35am:

So we have an unqualified Google employee taking over the ABC after an intensive period of the Liberal government trying to muzzle them.

As well the budget has been cut to the point where the ABC will have to start advertising to keep the doors open. Once that happens they will also be beholden to the advertisers. What if mining and or logging companies want to advertise? That would affect the interest is investigative journalism they are known for.

But the most interesting links are the history of staff movements as a method of spreading influence, as in the US State Department to Google, then Google to other organizations. There is evidence that Google is now just an arm of the US intelligence services.

This from Julian Assange:

"Only a few months before he met with me, Cohen was planning a trip to the edge of Iran in Azerbaijan to “engage the Iranian communities closer to the border,” as part of a Google Ideas’ project on “repressive societies.” In internal emails Stratfor’s vice president for intelligence, Fred Burton (himself a former State Department security official), wrote:

Google is getting WH [White House] and State Dept support and air cover. In reality they are doing things the CIA cannot do…

[Cohen] is going to get himself kidnapped or killed. Might be the best thing to happen to expose Google’s covert role in foaming up-risings, to be blunt. The US Gov’t can then disavow knowledge and Google is left holding the poo-bag."

the budget hasnt been cut..

they have just been asked to be more ACCOUNTABLE>.

no more $50.000 coffee machines...now that will hurt... dont they get something like $4bil.

Quote:

The ABC will have its budget cut by $254 million over the next five years, Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull has announced.

Mr Turnbull said the ABC would receive $5.2 billion in funding over that time - a cut of 4.6 per cent.

He said SBS's operating budget would be reduced by $25.2 million or 1.7 per cent over the same period.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-19/abc-funding-cuts-announced-by-malcolm-turn...

Back to top

IP Logged

random

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 2637
Gender: male

Re: Google takesover ABC
Reply #13 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:54am

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:43am:

There is a serious disconnect between the ABC and the good people of "real australia"

I was listening to the ABC a while back and they were talking about aboriginals in custody in the NT.

the reporter said that aborigines were 5 % of the population but comprised over 50 % of the prison population and that this statistic was one that should cause "great shame"

i thought (as a real australian)...well this is interesting, she is saying aboriginals should be ashamed of themselves as so many are in prison. this is odd for the ABC....

But alas....she then went on to say how the "real australians' should be ashamed for locking up so many criminals.

Her line of logic is just messed up.

Only failed journos inhabit the coridoors of the ABC.
people with serious mental health issues Wink

Interesting opinion.

Please supply links to evidence that "Only failed journos inhabit the coridoors of the ABC.
people with serious mental health issues"

Oh, and maybe they can spell ... Roll Eyes

Back to top

So many farkwits, so little time.

IP Logged

random

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 2637
Gender: male

Re: Google takesover ABC
Reply #14 - Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:56am

cods wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:50am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 1^st, 2016 at 7:43am:

There is a serious disconnect between the ABC and the good people of "real australia"

I was listening to the ABC a while back and they were talking about aboriginals in custody in the NT.

the reporter said that aborigines were 5 % of the population but comprised over 50 % of the prison population and that this statistic was one that should cause "great shame"

i thought (as a real australian)...well this is interesting, she is saying aboriginals should be ashamed of themselves as so many are in prison. this is odd for the ABC....

But alas....she then went on to say how the "real australians' should be ashamed for locking up so many criminals.

Her line of logic is just messed up.

Only failed journos inhabit the coridoors of the ABC.
people with serious mental health issues Wink

its a frustrating problem that isnt going to go away any time soon..

<snip>

Nice diversion, please check the thread title.

Back to top

So many farkwits, so little time.

IP Logged