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Re: All Over So Soon
Reply #15 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:18am

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:59am:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:49am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:23am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am:

Interesting how quickly the Turnbull Adventure has fallen apart.

Does he believe in anything? Not in gay marriage, this year. Not in the Republic, in the next thirty years. Not in abortion rights. Not in the Gonski education plans for the Disabled. Not in balancing the Budget.

Not in a ‘small-l’ Liberal Party, whilever Abbott is keen to work out, and Abetz to work out, like the DLP, a semifascist alternative.

He seems not to have a party at all. He seems obliged to defend ‘the 73 Club’ — Bishop, Heffernan, Ruddock — into their eightieth year. He seems obliged to destroy the provincial ABC, whatever the Nationals want.

If you vote for Turnbull, who do you get?

Not his party. He doesn’t have a party.

He doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

Gonski is a funding agreement for education whilst the NDIS funds the disabled....The Coalition agreed to fully implement both policies before the last election and have now turned their backs on the underprivileged and disabled....The Coalition have shown they cannot be trusted no matter who leads their dirty lying little party!!!

Smiley

the money wasnt there phil... was it??...

thats what I am talking about....

of course the Libs didnt rubbish it.. that would be death at the election....what they didnt know was the extent of the mess labor was leaving behind.....

and of course Abbott went too far...too soon..

its ok to make promises when you know you wont be having to make them work.. Roll Eyes

and labor knew they wouldnt win.. and its the same this time round....so make all the dumb promises you like..

I mean the hospitals are falling apart whats Bill going to do about them? the last Labor govt were going to take them over if I remember rightly!

No one forced Abbott to lie to the electorate....His PPL scheme was a load of bullshit yet I don't see any of you making the same assumptions about his reckless policies???

Huh

well I rubbished it for sure.. but then I rubbished the labs as well..

they are the ones that give in to the gimmee generation...and dumbarse libs followed suit

I am sick of this generation of entitled....

I really am..and a lot of older lefties on here think its fine????...got to admit that phil...

when ever Tony said its time we paid.. nothin gis free.. they screamed...$7 bucks to go to the doctor would cripple people...BS.

but they screamed loud enough and now we have a health crisis..which I dont expect to get better anytime soon.

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Reply #17 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 10:05am

____ wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:30am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:55am:

____ wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:15am:

Timid Turnbull is revealing his cowardice.
What a disappointment for progressive supporters of the Liberal Party.

Almost as disappointing as the greens.

To conservative Labor supporters, like yourself?

To anybody with a brain. The Greens are the sellout party.

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Reply #18 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 10:19am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:02am:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:56am:

sounds a bit like the 6 years of labor.. Grin

I'm so proud of you for standing by your conviction and refusing to formally vote this year, cods

I wonder if she'll be honest enough to tell the AEC she's not voting.

Or, will she have her name crossed off at the booth and then scribble "shortarse sucks" on her ballot paper?

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Reply #19 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:07pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:17am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:13am:

It appears that very few have twigged that Turnbull's policies are actually those of the the Liberal Party.

and that will be turncoats demise. .... I feel sorry for him actually, if he does what he wants, the libs will ditch him, if he does what the libs want, the public will ditch him. He can't win the poor bloke

Since you are a fan of fantasy rather than actual history let me illuminate you. Turnbull's first run at the job was a disaster. He tried to turn the Libs into the Turnbull party and was rewarded by dreadful polls. The moment Abbott took over and started actually speaking about Liberal policies his approval (and the polls soared). A smart person would realise that people want a Liberal PARTY rather than a specific leader. Turnbull is now very popular and the party as well by delivering the policies people actually want. I know you dont understand that since you only consider your own opinions, but it remains very true and will haunt the ALP through a massive election flogging later this year.

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Reply #20 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:18pm

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:18am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:59am:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:49am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:23am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am:

Interesting how quickly the Turnbull Adventure has fallen apart.

Does he believe in anything? Not in gay marriage, this year. Not in the Republic, in the next thirty years. Not in abortion rights. Not in the Gonski education plans for the Disabled. Not in balancing the Budget.

Not in a ‘small-l’ Liberal Party, whilever Abbott is keen to work out, and Abetz to work out, like the DLP, a semifascist alternative.

He seems not to have a party at all. He seems obliged to defend ‘the 73 Club’ — Bishop, Heffernan, Ruddock — into their eightieth year. He seems obliged to destroy the provincial ABC, whatever the Nationals want.

If you vote for Turnbull, who do you get?

Not his party. He doesn’t have a party.

He doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

Gonski is a funding agreement for education whilst the NDIS funds the disabled....The Coalition agreed to fully implement both policies before the last election and have now turned their backs on the underprivileged and disabled....The Coalition have shown they cannot be trusted no matter who leads their dirty lying little party!!!

Smiley

the money wasnt there phil... was it??...

thats what I am talking about....

of course the Libs didnt rubbish it.. that would be death at the election....what they didnt know was the extent of the mess labor was leaving behind.....

and of course Abbott went too far...too soon..

its ok to make promises when you know you wont be having to make them work.. Roll Eyes

and labor knew they wouldnt win.. and its the same this time round....so make all the dumb promises you like..

I mean the hospitals are falling apart whats Bill going to do about them? the last Labor govt were going to take them over if I remember rightly!

No one forced Abbott to lie to the electorate....His PPL scheme was a load of bullshit yet I don't see any of you making the same assumptions about his reckless policies???

Huh

well I rubbished it for sure.. but then I rubbished the labs as well..

they are the ones that give in to the gimmee generation...and dumbarse libs followed suit

I am sick of this generation of entitled....

I really am..and a lot of older lefties on here think its fine????...got to admit that phil...

when ever Tony said its time we paid.. nothin gis free.. they screamed...$7 bucks to go to the doctor would cripple people...BS.

but they screamed loud enough and now we have a health crisis..which I dont expect to get better anytime soon.

The disabled deserve better....The Coalition are a bunch of lying bastards who made so much about honesty and integrity before they were tested....Supporting such hypocrisy and double standards says a lot about some people!!!

Huh

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19978 Gender:	Re: All Over So Soon Reply #21 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:25pm philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:18pm: ..Supporting such hypocrisy and double standards says a lot about some people!!! And when Labor does it?
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Reply #22 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:35pm

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:25pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

..Supporting such hypocrisy and double standards says a lot about some people!!!

And when Labor does it?

The ALP are no better and deserve the crap they got....Kevin Rudd was the great pretender who sunk Labor for a decade or more....What's your point....Should the Coalition be beyond criticism???

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Reply #23 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:35pm

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:25pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

..Supporting such hypocrisy and double standards says a lot about some people!!!

And when Labor does it?

They approve. Gillard liked to spend money. She was even more prolific in spending when she knew she wouldnt be around to have to actually pay for it. And she knew there would be crowds of imbeciles demanding their right to access more money while simultaneously hating those who paid the bulk of the taxes that paid for it.

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Reply #24 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:09pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:17am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:13am:

It appears that very few have twigged that Turnbull's policies are actually those of the the Liberal Party.

and that will be turncoats demise. .... I feel sorry for him actually, if he does what he wants, the libs will ditch him, if he does what the libs want, the public will ditch him. He can't win the poor bloke

Since you are a fan of fantasy rather than actual history let me illuminate you. Turnbull's first run at the job was a disaster. He tried to turn the Libs into the Turnbull party and was rewarded by dreadful polls. The moment Abbott took over and started actually speaking about Liberal policies his approval (and the polls soared). A smart person would realise that people want a Liberal PARTY rather than a specific leader. Turnbull is now very popular and the party as well by delivering the policies people actually want. I know you dont understand that since you only consider your own opinions, but it remains very true and will haunt the ALP through a massive election flogging later this year.

If people were so enamoured of the libs policies, Abbotts ratings would never have dropped so low in the first place. Abbotts approval ratings collapsed because of the policies he was releasing.

Turncoat got a boost based on peoples hopes for what might be, once people realise that turncoat is just another lackey with the same crap policies, his numbers will fall. You can pretend the numbers will remain as they are all you like, history has shown repeatedly that a new leader brings a boost, but that boost doesn't last if the leader doesn't live up to expectations.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150497 Gender:	Re: All Over So Soon Reply #25 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:13pm mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:35pm: Gillard liked to spend money. She was ... ... a wonderful PM.
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Reply #28 - Jan 30^th, 2016 at 7:08am

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:13am:

Something that seems to have been missed by most on here is that Turnbull has learned his lesson from his first turn at the top job. That lesson is that you lead a party, not occupy a throne. He can lead the party but if the party doesnt follow then there is no leadership at all. The Libs as a party dont want an ETS and in fact oppose it strongly. Therefore, Turnbull cannot simply say he supports it because that's not how leadership operates. It appears that very few have twigged that Turnbull's policies are actually those of the the Liberal Party. Funny, that. And as a result he has a commanding lead in the polls and a truly massive lead in preferred PM.

What Turnbull has done is learned how to be a true leader. He can steer the ship to a certain degree, but he cannot unilaterally decide policy. He tried that last time and lost the job.

It is the Liberal Party, not the Turnbull Party and he now knows it.

Congratulations, it must be difficult to produce such a pile of garbage.

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Reply #29 - Jan 30^th, 2016 at 7:14am

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

lee wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:25pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

..Supporting such hypocrisy and double standards says a lot about some people!!!

And when Labor does it?

They approve. Gillard liked to spend money. She was even more prolific in spending when she knew she wouldnt be around to have to actually pay for it. And she knew there would be crowds of imbeciles demanding their right to access more money while simultaneously hating those who paid the bulk of the taxes that paid for it.

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She was even more prolific in spending

Yet the numbers and IMF say that the Howard government were by far the most prolific in spending since 1930 and the Abbott government immediately doubled the deficit with their out of control spending.

Facts are not kind to your opinions are they ?

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