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Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers
Reply #30 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:00am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am:

Yadda wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:51am:

double plus good wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:09am:

Why aren't hundreds of thousands of westeners clamoring to get to the middle east?

Possibly, for the same reason that MILLIONS of people are clamoring to get out of 1/ the middle east, and, 2/ escape Africa ?

Both of these regions contain exemplars of failed cultures.

Failed, corrupt, violence prone cultures.

The peoples of those two regions could do a lot worse, than taking 10 minutes, to listen to what this Brit broadcaster is speaking about.

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Roger Scruton argues that the law on freedom of speech ought to protect those who express heretical views and not be used to close down debate.

Correction, failed states, not failed cultures. Thanks.

'Correction, failed states, not failed cultures. Thanks.'

No.

FAILED CULTURES. !!!!

Failed, corrupt, violence prone cultures.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22692 A cat with a view	Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers Reply #31 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:01am BUMP
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Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers
Reply #32 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:05am

Yadda wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:00am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am:

Yadda wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:51am:

double plus good wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:09am:

Why aren't hundreds of thousands of westeners clamoring to get to the middle east?

Possibly, for the same reason that MILLIONS of people are clamoring to get out of 1/ the middle east, and, 2/ escape Africa ?

Both of these regions contain exemplars of failed cultures.

Failed, corrupt, violence prone cultures.

The peoples of those two regions could do a lot worse, than taking 10 minutes, to listen to what this Brit broadcaster is speaking about.

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The 2nd link is an .MP3 file....

Roger Scruton: In Defence of Free Speech
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06j6byb
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nond...
Roger Scruton argues that the law on freedom of speech ought to protect those who express heretical views and not be used to close down debate.

Correction, failed states, not failed cultures. Thanks.

'Correction, failed states, not failed cultures. Thanks.'

No.

FAILED CULTURES. !!!!

Nope.

Failed states.

Thanks.

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Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers
Reply #33 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:17am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:05am:

Yadda wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:00am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am:

Yadda wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:51am:

double plus good wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:09am:

Why aren't hundreds of thousands of westeners clamoring to get to the middle east?

Possibly, for the same reason that MILLIONS of people are clamoring to get out of 1/ the middle east, and, 2/ escape Africa ?

Both of these regions contain exemplars of failed cultures.

Failed, corrupt, violence prone cultures.

The peoples of those two regions could do a lot worse, than taking 10 minutes, to listen to what this Brit broadcaster is speaking about.

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The 2nd link is an .MP3 file....

Roger Scruton: In Defence of Free Speech
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06j6byb
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nond...
Roger Scruton argues that the law on freedom of speech ought to protect those who express heretical views and not be used to close down debate.

Correction, failed states, not failed cultures. Thanks.

'Correction, failed states, not failed cultures. Thanks.'

No.

FAILED CULTURES. !!!!

Nope.

Failed states.

Thanks.

OK, you have made an assertion.

Now demonstrate your point.

Name and identify, just one regime [state] in either the middle east, or, in Africa, which is peaceful, and prospering, and corruption free,
....and that is ALSO, not called Israel.

Psalms 73:1
Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.

The fruits, the fruits!!!!

Video tour through Israel.....

Israel ¡Seeing is Believing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLgdb6r0MQ4

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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sir prince duke alevine

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Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers
Reply #34 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:22am

Yadda wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:17am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:05am:

Yadda wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:00am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:54am:

Yadda wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:51am:

double plus good wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:09am:

Why aren't hundreds of thousands of westeners clamoring to get to the middle east?

Possibly, for the same reason that MILLIONS of people are clamoring to get out of 1/ the middle east, and, 2/ escape Africa ?

Both of these regions contain exemplars of failed cultures.

Failed, corrupt, violence prone cultures.

The peoples of those two regions could do a lot worse, than taking 10 minutes, to listen to what this Brit broadcaster is speaking about.

---------- >

The 2nd link is an .MP3 file....

Roger Scruton: In Defence of Free Speech
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06j6byb
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nond...
Roger Scruton argues that the law on freedom of speech ought to protect those who express heretical views and not be used to close down debate.

Correction, failed states, not failed cultures. Thanks.

'Correction, failed states, not failed cultures. Thanks.'

No.

FAILED CULTURES. !!!!

Nope.

Failed states.

Thanks.

OK, you have made an assertion.

Now demonstrate your point.

Name and identify, just one regime [state] in either the middle east, or, in Africa, which is peaceful, and prospering, and corruption free, ....that is ALSO, not called Israel.

Psalms 73:1
Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.

The fruits, the fruits!!!!

Video tour through Israel.....

Israel ¡Seeing is Believing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLgdb6r0MQ4

South Africa
Tanzania
Kenya
Uganda
Tunisia
Saudi Arabia
United Aran Emirates
Iran
For the majority of the country, Nigeria
Mozambique
Mauritius

Now, before you answer, if you insist on claim failed culture and use examples as "dangerous and corrupt" then I ask you to provide examples in South America that aren't similarly dangerous and corrupt.

Please, just stop with this nonsense. No one disagrees there are failed states in Africa. But it's not due to "failed" culture.

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 23065 ACT Gender:	Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers Reply #35 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:34am My understanding is that these 80000 are just country shoppers looking for a better life and Sweden is quite justified considering the numbers of legitimate asylum seekers that are also arriving.
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Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers
Reply #36 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:42am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:22am:

Yadda wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:17am:

OK, you have made an assertion.

Now demonstrate your point.

Name and identify, just one regime [state] in either the middle east, or, in Africa, which is peaceful, and prospering, and corruption free, ....that is ALSO, not called Israel.

Psalms 73:1
Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.

The fruits, the fruits!!!!

Video tour through Israel.....

Israel ¡Seeing is Believing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLgdb6r0MQ4

South Africa

Tanzania

Kenya

Uganda

Tunisia

Saudi Arabia

United Aran Emirates

Iran

For the majority of the country, Nigeria
Mozambique

Mauritius

Now, before you answer, if you insist on claim failed culture and use examples as "dangerous and corrupt" then I ask you to provide examples in South America that aren't similarly dangerous and corrupt.

Please, just stop with this nonsense. No one disagrees there are failed states in Africa. But it's not due to "failed" culture.

I call bullsh it, on every one of those nations.

Not one of them does not suffer from deep ingrained institutional government corruption.

Not one of them has a justice system that is not on the edge of dysfunction/corruption.

I will nominate just two of those nations as typical examples.

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iran rape in prison, paradise

Google;

iran, female prisoners raped before execution

and.....

Google;

saudi maid abuse

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers
Reply #37 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:48am

GordyL wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 1:29pm:

I guess being propelled from a civilised society to the rape capital of the world has woken them up.

Sweden intends to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers who arrived in 2015 and whose applications for asylum were rejected, Interior Minister Anders Ygeman has said.
Key points:

Sweden to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers
Process to take several years
Sweden has taken large number of asylum seekers per capita

"We are talking about 60,000 people but the number could climb to 80,000," the minister was quoted as saying by Swedish media, adding that the Government had asked the police and authorities in charge of asylum seekers to organise their expulsion.

80,000. That's pathetic.

And it'll take years, it's never going to happen.
What an expense.
Should have shot them at the border.
Left the carcases there as a message

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sir prince duke alevine

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Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers
Reply #38 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:53am

Yadda wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:42am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:22am:

Yadda wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:17am:

OK, you have made an assertion.

Now demonstrate your point.

Name and identify, just one regime [state] in either the middle east, or, in Africa, which is peaceful, and prospering, and corruption free, ....that is ALSO, not called Israel.

Psalms 73:1
Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.

The fruits, the fruits!!!!

Video tour through Israel.....

Israel ¡Seeing is Believing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLgdb6r0MQ4

South Africa

Tanzania

Kenya

Uganda

Tunisia

Saudi Arabia

United Aran Emirates

Iran

For the majority of the country, Nigeria
Mozambique

Mauritius

Now, before you answer, if you insist on claim failed culture and use examples as "dangerous and corrupt" then I ask you to provide examples in South America that aren't similarly dangerous and corrupt.

Please, just stop with this nonsense. No one disagrees there are failed states in Africa. But it's not due to "failed" culture.

I call bullsh it, on every one of those nations.

Not one of them does not suffer from deep ingrained institutional government corruption.

Not one of them has a justice system that is not on the edge of dysfunction/corruption.

I will nominate just two of those nations as typical examples.

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Google;

iran rape in prison, paradise

Google;

iran, female prisoners raped before execution

and.....

Google;

saudi maid abuse

Ok, using your principles, do you deny that South America has a failed culture?
What about Asia?

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double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers Reply #39 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:41am Thanks for the honest answer, Yadda.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150870 Gender:	Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers Reply #40 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:16am Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:34am: My understanding is that these 80000 are just country shoppers looking for a better life ... Looking for a better life? How could people do such a horrible thing? Extraordinary.
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers Reply #41 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:38am ABBA reunited for the first time in eight years within the other day for the opening of a Mamma Mia-themed restaurant in Stockholm. Coping with both swarms of refugees and the excitement of seeing ABBA together again was too much for Sweden and so one of them had to go.
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Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers
Reply #42 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:44am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:53am:

Ok, using your principles, do you deny that South America has a failed culture?
What about Asia

do you see any asylum seekers heading in those directions????

hasnt anyone notice they gravitate towards Christian mainly countries.....

I dont see them striving to get to Rio or India...

why is that???????????? Roll Eyes

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Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers
Reply #43 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:48am

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:44am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:53am:

Ok, using your principles, do you deny that South America has a failed culture?
What about Asia

do you see any asylum seekers heading in those directions????

hasnt anyone notice they gravitate towards Christian mainly countries.....

I dont see them striving to get to Rio or India...

why is that???????????? Roll Eyes

I think you're quite confused with the point im making.

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Re: Sweden plans to expel up to 80,000 asylum seekers
Reply #44 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:49am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:48am:

cods wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:44am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:53am:

Ok, using your principles, do you deny that South America has a failed culture?
What about Asia

do you see any asylum seekers heading in those directions????

hasnt anyone notice they gravitate towards Christian mainly countries.....

I dont see them striving to get to Rio or India...

why is that???????????? Roll Eyes

I think you're quite confused with the point im making.

Fixed.

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