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Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again)
Reply #45 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 6:53pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 6:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 12:51pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 12:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:39am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

So if the plebiscite knocks back gay marriage, will you all accept the verdict and shut up?

Of course it will be accepted.

Do you think there'll be riots in the streets or something?

If the gay marriage plebiscite were to be rejected, would you keep agitating for it still? Or would you calmly accept the verdict and move on without continually complaining?

1. I'm not agitating for it.

2. I would calmly accept any verdict.

3. I would move on.

4. I wouldn't complain.

That's you - not that I beleive you. But do you think everybody else will calmly accept a NO vote?

Yes.

There won't be rioting in the streets.

You won't have to hide under your bed.

Life will go on as normal.

And, if it doesn't, who cares? It's no big deal.

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Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again)
Reply #46 - Jan 28^th, 2016 at 10:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 6:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 12:51pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 12:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:39am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

So if the plebiscite knocks back gay marriage, will you all accept the verdict and shut up?

Of course it will be accepted.

Do you think there'll be riots in the streets or something?

If the gay marriage plebiscite were to be rejected, would you keep agitating for it still? Or would you calmly accept the verdict and move on without continually complaining?

1. I'm not agitating for it.

2. I would calmly accept any verdict.

3. I would move on.

4. I wouldn't complain.

That's you - not that I beleive you. But do you think everybody else will calmly accept a NO vote?

Yes.

There won't be rioting in the streets.

You won't have to hide under your bed.

Life will go on as normal.

And, if it doesn't, who cares? It's no big deal.

What if a god botherer sees a cpl of fags in street holding hands , they gonna get rowdy holding placards saying god told me he hates fags ? Didnt think of that , did ya greg?

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Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again)
Reply #48 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:53am

stunspore wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:27am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

So if the plebiscite knocks back gay marriage, will you all accept the verdict and shut up?

Does the reverse applies to you lib supporters?

I've already said that if the plebiscite gets up with a YES vote then it should be legalised. I am happy to accept the verdict of the voters. I am asking if the same is true of gay advocates if the result were a NO vote. I disagree with Abetz's position, but it could be said that he is no different that gay advocates who will only accept the verdict if it goes their way.

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Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again)
Reply #49 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 8:54am

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:53am:

stunspore wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:27am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

So if the plebiscite knocks back gay marriage, will you all accept the verdict and shut up?

Does the reverse applies to you lib supporters?

I've already said that if the plebiscite gets up with a YES vote then it should be legalised. I am happy to accept the verdict of the voters. I am asking if the same is true of gay advocates if the result were a NO vote. I disagree with Abetz's position, but it could be said that he is no different that gay advocates who will only accept the verdict if it goes their way.

I would say yes, quiet for a while. I doubt that we'd have that situation.

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Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again)
Reply #50 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:19am

Its time wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 10:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 6:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 12:51pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 12:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:39am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

So if the plebiscite knocks back gay marriage, will you all accept the verdict and shut up?

Of course it will be accepted.

Do you think there'll be riots in the streets or something?

If the gay marriage plebiscite were to be rejected, would you keep agitating for it still? Or would you calmly accept the verdict and move on without continually complaining?

1. I'm not agitating for it.

2. I would calmly accept any verdict.

3. I would move on.

4. I wouldn't complain.

That's you - not that I beleive you. But do you think everybody else will calmly accept a NO vote?

Yes.

There won't be rioting in the streets.

You won't have to hide under your bed.

Life will go on as normal.

And, if it doesn't, who cares? It's no big deal.

What if a god botherer sees a cpl of fags in street holding hands , they gonna get rowdy holding placards saying god told me he hates fags ? Didnt think of that , did ya greg?

Oh yes, those who are against SSM are the ones who will (and do) cause trouble.

The God botherers are particularly evil.

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Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again)
Reply #51 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 9:29am

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:53am:

stunspore wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:27am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

So if the plebiscite knocks back gay marriage, will you all accept the verdict and shut up?

Does the reverse applies to you lib supporters?

I've already said that if the plebiscite gets up with a YES vote then it should be legalised. I am happy to accept the verdict of the voters. I am asking if the same is true of gay advocates if the result were a NO vote. I disagree with Abetz's position, but it could be said that he is no different that gay advocates who will only accept the verdict if it goes their way.

No, will not accept the verdict in the longer time span.
I accept there will a period of time before the topic is returned to, if the scare campaign against marriage equality succeeds.

Like on the issue of Australia becoming a republic.

Some issues like the right for all Australian women to vote took nearly 50 years to achieve.

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Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again)
Reply #52 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:40pm

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:53am:

stunspore wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:27am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

So if the plebiscite knocks back gay marriage, will you all accept the verdict and shut up?

Does the reverse applies to you lib supporters?

I've already said that if the plebiscite gets up with a YES vote then it should be legalised. I am happy to accept the verdict of the voters. I am asking if the same is true of gay advocates if the result were a NO vote. I disagree with Abetz's position, but it could be said that he is no different that gay advocates who will only accept the verdict if it goes their way.

To be honest, if a cause is worthy it should be continuously campaigned. Just because it succeeded or not, laws should reflect the changes in society.

It could very well be same sex marriage creates big problems after a few years, and there there is a majority that wants the legislation rescinded.

Just because women didn't get equal pay or that Aborigines didn't get the right to vote straight away, it wasn't wrong to keep campaigning until it changes.

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Re: Marriage Equality Splits Libs (Again)
Reply #53 - Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:13pm

stunspore wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 7:53am:

stunspore wrote on Jan 29^th, 2016 at 6:27am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 28^th, 2016 at 11:35am:

So if the plebiscite knocks back gay marriage, will you all accept the verdict and shut up?

Does the reverse applies to you lib supporters?

I've already said that if the plebiscite gets up with a YES vote then it should be legalised. I am happy to accept the verdict of the voters. I am asking if the same is true of gay advocates if the result were a NO vote. I disagree with Abetz's position, but it could be said that he is no different that gay advocates who will only accept the verdict if it goes their way.

To be honest, if a cause is worthy it should be continuously campaigned. Just because it succeeded or not, laws should reflect the changes in society.

It could very well be same sex marriage creates big problems after a few years, and there there is a majority that wants the legislation rescinded.

Just because women didn't get equal pay or that Aborigines didn't get the right to vote straight away, it wasn't wrong to keep campaigning until it changes.

Then in the name of consistency, would you be happy for the Liberals and the anti-gay-marriage group to continue to agitate for the repeal of gay marriage laws?

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