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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #30 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:58am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:55am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:47am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:18am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:16pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

.....the same old tired politics of envy, pork barreling policies.

......just how will it fund it's usual spendathon with the national credit card already maxed out?

Who has max out the credit card?

Friggin Labor did or are you only 2 years old... Roll Eyes

What was the gross debt when labor got voted out in 2013 and what is the gross debt now. Why do you RWNJ blame everything on labor? Aren't you man enough to take responsibility for liberal government action.

We see how good you are swaggie and see if you complain about this.

I bet you don't as the Job Network set up was Howard baby

One of mates had a appointment with his Job Network "employment consultant" took 4min 20secs from start to finish and for that they get paid how much? $190 from the Government???? Australia 'the land of white collar crime'.

If he seen a average of 12 unemployed people a hour that would work out at $2280.00. Not a bad hourly rate of pay is it

Debt 2007: -$22bn
Debt 2013: +$300bn

What is the debt in 2015?

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Opinions are like arseholes everyone got one.

It doesn't mean that your opinion or my opinion is right

See my post in the welcome thread reply #575 and you will know what I am like

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #31 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:03am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 6:46am:

Because of spending locked in (Abbott-proofed) by Labor and a long list of under-funded projects that the Coalition had no choice but to commit more funding to.

you just make this up as you go don't you? If Abbott thought there was really a budget emergency, what stopped him holding a mini budget as soon as he won office so he could reverse some of that spending? The fact remains that the libs are generally consistently higher spenders than labor.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #32 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:25am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:55am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:47am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:18am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:16pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

.....the same old tired politics of envy, pork barreling policies.

......just how will it fund it's usual spendathon with the national credit card already maxed out?

Who has max out the credit card?

Friggin Labor did or are you only 2 years old... Roll Eyes

What was the gross debt when labor got voted out in 2013 and what is the gross debt now. Why do you RWNJ blame everything on labor? Aren't you man enough to take responsibility for liberal government action.

We see how good you are swaggie and see if you complain about this.

I bet you don't as the Job Network set up was Howard baby

One of mates had a appointment with his Job Network "employment consultant" took 4min 20secs from start to finish and for that they get paid how much? $190 from the Government???? Australia 'the land of white collar crime'.

If he seen a average of 12 unemployed people a hour that would work out at $2280.00. Not a bad hourly rate of pay is it

Debt 2007: -$22bn
Debt 2013: +$300bn

Armie, you really are a dildo. Why are you comparing the 2007 net debt with the 2013 gross debt. FYI net debt 2013 = $165 billion. 2015 figures aren't released yet but government bonds on issue minus inputs are just a tad under $350 billion. The official numbers will come out soon enough.

In any case, direct comparisons of value are meaningless over a time span of eight years. Even you must realise that the economy is much larger today than it was in 2007.

Comparisons to GDP are much more useful. In tough times why are people complaining about debt levels of a paltry percentage of national production.

Armie, do us a favour and go buy yourself an introductory macro textbook.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #33 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:38am

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Not looking for a party to immitate the great Australian Labor Party. Just waiting for the "true believers" to duly advance their position.

The Australian Labor Party must build its 2016/17 election platform based on restoration.

The $110 Billion in taxpayer paid subsidies, concessions, and tax breaks to international corporations, big business, and the wealthy, must end.

National and multi-national corporations must publicly disclose all tax liabilities to the Commonwealth.

Medicare must be fully funded, with a National Dental Care system initiated.

Private Health Insurers must be removed from the Public Hospital system, and Private Health Insurance rebates costing taxpayers $6 billion annually must cease.

Commonwealth funding to Public Schools, TAFE Centres, and Australian Universities must be fully restored.

The Commonwealth Employment Service must be rebuilt, and private employment providers must be held accountable for the $billions of taxpayer dollars defrauded from the people.

Commonwealth Social Security Services and Programs, must be re-opened, and a commitment to a National Living Wage given.

Investment in public transport infrastructure, including high speed rail, must be a priority, and national assets such as Labor's NBN, must be recovered.

The treatment of refugees, and individuals seeking asylum in Australia, must be in accordance with the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and all processing must take place on mainland Australia.

The legal, and civil rights of all Australian citizens, seriously eroded by newly enacted counter terrorism laws, must be restored and guaranteed.

All remote aboriginal communities closed by Liberal State governments must be re-opened, and all lands seized for mining exploration must be returned to the care of local indigenous people.

Indigenous Australians must be treated with all due dignity and respect, as the true custodians of this nation, and this must be reflected in Australia's constitution, legislation and by-laws.

The Australian Labor Party, must develop a program of modern 21st century socialism in order to compete internationally, and to protect Australia's national assets from the neo-liberal free market racketeers.

The Australian people are calling for restoration, equity, and justice. The leader that has the fortitude to act, will become Australia's next Labor Prime Minister.

Have a share to inspire change.

Blah Blah Blah. Not one iota of reference to work, innovation, committment, duty and responsibility. It is all about 'gimme more'.

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #34 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:49am

mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:38am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Not looking for a party to immitate the great Australian Labor Party. Just waiting for the "true believers" to duly advance their position.

The Australian Labor Party must build its 2016/17 election platform based on restoration.

The $110 Billion in taxpayer paid subsidies, concessions, and tax breaks to international corporations, big business, and the wealthy, must end.

National and multi-national corporations must publicly disclose all tax liabilities to the Commonwealth.

Medicare must be fully funded, with a National Dental Care system initiated.

Private Health Insurers must be removed from the Public Hospital system, and Private Health Insurance rebates costing taxpayers $6 billion annually must cease.

Commonwealth funding to Public Schools, TAFE Centres, and Australian Universities must be fully restored.

The Commonwealth Employment Service must be rebuilt, and private employment providers must be held accountable for the $billions of taxpayer dollars defrauded from the people.

Commonwealth Social Security Services and Programs, must be re-opened, and a commitment to a National Living Wage given.

Investment in public transport infrastructure, including high speed rail, must be a priority, and national assets such as Labor's NBN, must be recovered.

The treatment of refugees, and individuals seeking asylum in Australia, must be in accordance with the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and all processing must take place on mainland Australia.

The legal, and civil rights of all Australian citizens, seriously eroded by newly enacted counter terrorism laws, must be restored and guaranteed.

All remote aboriginal communities closed by Liberal State governments must be re-opened, and all lands seized for mining exploration must be returned to the care of local indigenous people.

Indigenous Australians must be treated with all due dignity and respect, as the true custodians of this nation, and this must be reflected in Australia's constitution, legislation and by-laws.

The Australian Labor Party, must develop a program of modern 21st century socialism in order to compete internationally, and to protect Australia's national assets from the neo-liberal free market racketeers.

The Australian people are calling for restoration, equity, and justice. The leader that has the fortitude to act, will become Australia's next Labor Prime Minister.

Have a share to inspire change.

Blah Blah Blah.

Not one iota of reference to work, innovation, committment, duty and responsibility

. It is all about 'gimme more'.

Actually, it refers to ALL of those things.

Did you ever learn to comprehend what you read?

No, I didn't think so.

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #35 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:51am

mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:38am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Not looking for a party to immitate the great Australian Labor Party. Just waiting for the "true believers" to duly advance their position.

The Australian Labor Party must build its 2016/17 election platform based on restoration.

The $110 Billion in taxpayer paid subsidies, concessions, and tax breaks to international corporations, big business, and the wealthy, must end.

National and multi-national corporations must publicly disclose all tax liabilities to the Commonwealth.

Medicare must be fully funded, with a National Dental Care system initiated.

Private Health Insurers must be removed from the Public Hospital system, and Private Health Insurance rebates costing taxpayers $6 billion annually must cease.

Commonwealth funding to Public Schools, TAFE Centres, and Australian Universities must be fully restored.

The Commonwealth Employment Service must be rebuilt, and private employment providers must be held accountable for the $billions of taxpayer dollars defrauded from the people.

Commonwealth Social Security Services and Programs, must be re-opened, and a commitment to a National Living Wage given.

Investment in public transport infrastructure, including high speed rail, must be a priority, and national assets such as Labor's NBN, must be recovered.

The treatment of refugees, and individuals seeking asylum in Australia, must be in accordance with the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and all processing must take place on mainland Australia.

The legal, and civil rights of all Australian citizens, seriously eroded by newly enacted counter terrorism laws, must be restored and guaranteed.

All remote aboriginal communities closed by Liberal State governments must be re-opened, and all lands seized for mining exploration must be returned to the care of local indigenous people.

Indigenous Australians must be treated with all due dignity and respect, as the true custodians of this nation, and this must be reflected in Australia's constitution, legislation and by-laws.

The Australian Labor Party, must develop a program of modern 21st century socialism in order to compete internationally, and to protect Australia's national assets from the neo-liberal free market racketeers.

The Australian people are calling for restoration, equity, and justice. The leader that has the fortitude to act, will become Australia's next Labor Prime Minister.

Have a share to inspire change.

Blah Blah Blah. Not one iota of reference to work, innovation, committment, duty and responsibility. It is all about 'gimme more'.

Smell the fear

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #36 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:02am

John Smith wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

.....the same old tired politics of envy, pork barreling policies.

......just how will it fund it's usual spendathon with the national credit card already maxed out?

https://d30y9cdsu7xlg0.cloudfront.net/png/1294-200.png

yet the libs spending as a percentage of GDP is higher than labors Cheesy

...and you are going to provide data to prove this little theory of yours ay Smithy? Cheesy

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #37 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:15am

Kat wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:38am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Not looking for a party to immitate the great Australian Labor Party. Just waiting for the "true believers" to duly advance their position.

The Australian Labor Party must build its 2016/17 election platform based on restoration.

The $110 Billion in taxpayer paid subsidies, concessions, and tax breaks to international corporations, big business, and the wealthy, must end.

National and multi-national corporations must publicly disclose all tax liabilities to the Commonwealth.

Medicare must be fully funded, with a National Dental Care system initiated.

Private Health Insurers must be removed from the Public Hospital system, and Private Health Insurance rebates costing taxpayers $6 billion annually must cease.

Commonwealth funding to Public Schools, TAFE Centres, and Australian Universities must be fully restored.

The Commonwealth Employment Service must be rebuilt, and private employment providers must be held accountable for the $billions of taxpayer dollars defrauded from the people.

Commonwealth Social Security Services and Programs, must be re-opened, and a commitment to a National Living Wage given.

Investment in public transport infrastructure, including high speed rail, must be a priority, and national assets such as Labor's NBN, must be recovered.

The treatment of refugees, and individuals seeking asylum in Australia, must be in accordance with the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and all processing must take place on mainland Australia.

The legal, and civil rights of all Australian citizens, seriously eroded by newly enacted counter terrorism laws, must be restored and guaranteed.

All remote aboriginal communities closed by Liberal State governments must be re-opened, and all lands seized for mining exploration must be returned to the care of local indigenous people.

Indigenous Australians must be treated with all due dignity and respect, as the true custodians of this nation, and this must be reflected in Australia's constitution, legislation and by-laws.

The Australian Labor Party, must develop a program of modern 21st century socialism in order to compete internationally, and to protect Australia's national assets from the neo-liberal free market racketeers.

The Australian people are calling for restoration, equity, and justice. The leader that has the fortitude to act, will become Australia's next Labor Prime Minister.

Have a share to inspire change.

Blah Blah Blah.

Not one iota of reference to work, innovation, committment, duty and responsibility

. It is all about 'gimme more'.

Actually, it refers to ALL of those things.

Did you ever learn to comprehend what you read?

No, I didn't think so.

So where are the references to WORK?

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #38 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:16am

Its time wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:51am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:38am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Not looking for a party to immitate the great Australian Labor Party. Just waiting for the "true believers" to duly advance their position.

The Australian Labor Party must build its 2016/17 election platform based on restoration.

The $110 Billion in taxpayer paid subsidies, concessions, and tax breaks to international corporations, big business, and the wealthy, must end.

National and multi-national corporations must publicly disclose all tax liabilities to the Commonwealth.

Medicare must be fully funded, with a National Dental Care system initiated.

Private Health Insurers must be removed from the Public Hospital system, and Private Health Insurance rebates costing taxpayers $6 billion annually must cease.

Commonwealth funding to Public Schools, TAFE Centres, and Australian Universities must be fully restored.

The Commonwealth Employment Service must be rebuilt, and private employment providers must be held accountable for the $billions of taxpayer dollars defrauded from the people.

Commonwealth Social Security Services and Programs, must be re-opened, and a commitment to a National Living Wage given.

Investment in public transport infrastructure, including high speed rail, must be a priority, and national assets such as Labor's NBN, must be recovered.

The treatment of refugees, and individuals seeking asylum in Australia, must be in accordance with the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and all processing must take place on mainland Australia.

The legal, and civil rights of all Australian citizens, seriously eroded by newly enacted counter terrorism laws, must be restored and guaranteed.

All remote aboriginal communities closed by Liberal State governments must be re-opened, and all lands seized for mining exploration must be returned to the care of local indigenous people.

Indigenous Australians must be treated with all due dignity and respect, as the true custodians of this nation, and this must be reflected in Australia's constitution, legislation and by-laws.

The Australian Labor Party, must develop a program of modern 21st century socialism in order to compete internationally, and to protect Australia's national assets from the neo-liberal free market racketeers.

The Australian people are calling for restoration, equity, and justice. The leader that has the fortitude to act, will become Australia's next Labor Prime Minister.

Have a share to inspire change.

Blah Blah Blah. Not one iota of reference to work, innovation, committment, duty and responsibility. It is all about 'gimme more'.

Smell the fear

With the polls currently tracking to a massacre of Labor at the next election, that is perhaps the silliest think you could say.

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #39 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:18am

Kat wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:38am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Not looking for a party to immitate the great Australian Labor Party. Just waiting for the "true believers" to duly advance their position.

The Australian Labor Party must build its 2016/17 election platform based on restoration.

The $110 Billion in taxpayer paid subsidies, concessions, and tax breaks to international corporations, big business, and the wealthy, must end.

National and multi-national corporations must publicly disclose all tax liabilities to the Commonwealth.

Medicare must be fully funded, with a National Dental Care system initiated.

Private Health Insurers must be removed from the Public Hospital system, and Private Health Insurance rebates costing taxpayers $6 billion annually must cease.

Commonwealth funding to Public Schools, TAFE Centres, and Australian Universities must be fully restored.

The Commonwealth Employment Service must be rebuilt, and private employment providers must be held accountable for the $billions of taxpayer dollars defrauded from the people.

Commonwealth Social Security Services and Programs, must be re-opened, and a commitment to a National Living Wage given.

Investment in public transport infrastructure, including high speed rail, must be a priority, and national assets such as Labor's NBN, must be recovered.

The treatment of refugees, and individuals seeking asylum in Australia, must be in accordance with the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and all processing must take place on mainland Australia.

The legal, and civil rights of all Australian citizens, seriously eroded by newly enacted counter terrorism laws, must be restored and guaranteed.

All remote aboriginal communities closed by Liberal State governments must be re-opened, and all lands seized for mining exploration must be returned to the care of local indigenous people.

Indigenous Australians must be treated with all due dignity and respect, as the true custodians of this nation, and this must be reflected in Australia's constitution, legislation and by-laws.

The Australian Labor Party, must develop a program of modern 21st century socialism in order to compete internationally, and to protect Australia's national assets from the neo-liberal free market racketeers.

The Australian people are calling for restoration, equity, and justice. The leader that has the fortitude to act, will become Australia's next Labor Prime Minister.

Have a share to inspire change.

Blah Blah Blah.

Not one iota of reference to work, innovation, committment, duty and responsibility

. It is all about 'gimme more'.

Actually, it refers to ALL of those things.

Did you ever learn to comprehend what you read?

No, I didn't think so.

She actually does have a good point. You'd do well to acknowledge it. There is little mention about important issues like reversing the appallingly low figures on productivity growth which feeds directly into real wages growth.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #40 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:20am

[quote author=Jim_Puddle-Duck link=1453809927/26#26 date=1453841318]There are some good things on the list but it is not affordable in the short term but it does look like a good long term guide. [/quote]

Agreed DNA.I think all Labor has to do for now is continue to release their policies and highlight the inept performance of the coalition. There is enough ammunition there but doubt Shorties ability to use it effectively. Sad

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #41 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:21am

crocodile wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:18am:

Kat wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:49am:

mariacostel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 8:38am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Not looking for a party to immitate the great Australian Labor Party. Just waiting for the "true believers" to duly advance their position.

The Australian Labor Party must build its 2016/17 election platform based on restoration.

The $110 Billion in taxpayer paid subsidies, concessions, and tax breaks to international corporations, big business, and the wealthy, must end.

National and multi-national corporations must publicly disclose all tax liabilities to the Commonwealth.

Medicare must be fully funded, with a National Dental Care system initiated.

Private Health Insurers must be removed from the Public Hospital system, and Private Health Insurance rebates costing taxpayers $6 billion annually must cease.

Commonwealth funding to Public Schools, TAFE Centres, and Australian Universities must be fully restored.

The Commonwealth Employment Service must be rebuilt, and private employment providers must be held accountable for the $billions of taxpayer dollars defrauded from the people.

Commonwealth Social Security Services and Programs, must be re-opened, and a commitment to a National Living Wage given.

Investment in public transport infrastructure, including high speed rail, must be a priority, and national assets such as Labor's NBN, must be recovered.

The treatment of refugees, and individuals seeking asylum in Australia, must be in accordance with the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and all processing must take place on mainland Australia.

The legal, and civil rights of all Australian citizens, seriously eroded by newly enacted counter terrorism laws, must be restored and guaranteed.

All remote aboriginal communities closed by Liberal State governments must be re-opened, and all lands seized for mining exploration must be returned to the care of local indigenous people.

Indigenous Australians must be treated with all due dignity and respect, as the true custodians of this nation, and this must be reflected in Australia's constitution, legislation and by-laws.

The Australian Labor Party, must develop a program of modern 21st century socialism in order to compete internationally, and to protect Australia's national assets from the neo-liberal free market racketeers.

The Australian people are calling for restoration, equity, and justice. The leader that has the fortitude to act, will become Australia's next Labor Prime Minister.

Have a share to inspire change.

Blah Blah Blah.

Not one iota of reference to work, innovation, committment, duty and responsibility

. It is all about 'gimme more'.

Actually, it refers to ALL of those things.

Did you ever learn to comprehend what you read?

No, I didn't think so.

She actually does have a good point. You'd do well to acknowledge it. There is little mention about important issues like reversing the appallingly low figures on productivity growth which feeds directly into real wages growth.

The entire rant is nothing more than ideology writ large. There are zero references to the responsibility of the individual; no discussion on work or innovation and no talk of unity - other than under International Socialism. It was utterly worthless.

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #42 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:28am

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Not looking for a party to immitate the great Australian Labor Party. Just waiting for the "true believers" to duly advance their position.

The Australian Labor Party must build its 2016/17 election platform based on restoration.

The $110 Billion in taxpayer paid subsidies, concessions, and tax breaks to international corporations, big business, and the wealthy, must end.

National and multi-national corporations must publicly disclose all tax liabilities to the Commonwealth.

Medicare must be fully funded, with a National Dental Care system initiated.

Private Health Insurers must be removed from the Public Hospital system, and Private Health Insurance rebates costing taxpayers $6 billion annually must cease.

Commonwealth funding to Public Schools, TAFE Centres, and Australian Universities must be fully restored.

The Commonwealth Employment Service must be rebuilt, and private employment providers must be held accountable for the $billions of taxpayer dollars defrauded from the people.

Commonwealth Social Security Services and Programs, must be re-opened, and a commitment to a National Living Wage given.

Investment in public transport infrastructure, including high speed rail, must be a priority, and national assets such as Labor's NBN, must be recovered.

The treatment of refugees, and individuals seeking asylum in Australia, must be in accordance with the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and all processing must take place on mainland Australia.

The legal, and civil rights of all Australian citizens, seriously eroded by newly enacted counter terrorism laws, must be restored and guaranteed.

All remote aboriginal communities closed by Liberal State governments must be re-opened, and all lands seized for mining exploration must be returned to the care of local indigenous people.

Indigenous Australians must be treated with all due dignity and respect, as the true custodians of this nation, and this must be reflected in Australia's constitution, legislation and by-laws.

The Australian Labor Party, must develop a program of modern 21st century socialism in order to compete internationally, and to protect Australia's national assets from the neo-liberal free market racketeers.

The Australian people are calling for restoration, equity, and justice. The leader that has the fortitude to act, will become Australia's next Labor Prime Minister.

Have a share to inspire change.

Not much to disagree with there.

A few points, including some new ones that you haven't included:

For the $110 billion, some of that money could reasonably be spent on reducing the company tax rate. Any reduction in the company tax rate must be fully funded by axing tax breaks, concessions etc that those companies receive. Reductions in the company tax rate must not be funded by other taxpayers or by cutting services.

Crack down on multinational tax avoidance by making sure that profits earned in Australia are taxed in Australia.

Introduce a minimum company tax rate of 1% of company turnover as a flat tax that is not reducible by deductions. Any extra revenue raised by that tax can be used to fund grants to the States in exchange for abolishing payroll tax, with any additional funds used to reduce the company tax rate on company profits and to balance the Budget.

Private health insurers must be removed from GPs as well.

The network of private employment service providers must be abolished, and this is done by giving them no new contracts. Starve these beasts.

Abolish 457 visas.

Crack down on crime, corruption and misconduct by launching three separate Royal Commissions into private employment service providers, the banking and finance industry and the construction and property development industry.

The treatment of refugees must be in accordance with treaties to which Australia is a signatory and international law. Not the UDHR, that is not legally binding.

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You are not entitled to your opinion. You are only entitled to hold opinions that you can defend through sound, reasoned argument.

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #43 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:36am

Labor voter wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:58am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:55am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:47am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:18am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:16pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

.....the same old tired politics of envy, pork barreling policies.

......just how will it fund it's usual spendathon with the national credit card already maxed out?

Who has max out the credit card?

Friggin Labor did or are you only 2 years old... Roll Eyes

What was the gross debt when labor got voted out in 2013 and what is the gross debt now. Why do you RWNJ blame everything on labor? Aren't you man enough to take responsibility for liberal government action.

We see how good you are swaggie and see if you complain about this.

I bet you don't as the Job Network set up was Howard baby

One of mates had a appointment with his Job Network "employment consultant" took 4min 20secs from start to finish and for that they get paid how much? $190 from the Government???? Australia 'the land of white collar crime'.

If he seen a average of 12 unemployed people a hour that would work out at $2280.00. Not a bad hourly rate of pay is it

Debt 2007: -$22bn
Debt 2013: +$300bn

What is the debt in 2015?

The final budget outcome for 2013 was $153B debt.

The projected total for 15/16 is $278B debt. (optimistic).

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #44 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:42am

macman wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 9:20am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 6:48am:

There are some good things on the list but it is not affordable in the short term but it does look like a good long term guide.

Agreed DNA.I think all Labor has to do for now is continue to release their policies and highlight the inept performance of the coalition. There is enough ammunition there but doubt Shorties ability to use it effectively. Sad

At this stage Shorten and Labor probably need to keep their dollars in the bank. Unlike Abbott they do not have a media propaganda machine behind them working for free.

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