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Reply #15 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:53pm

Are we trying for a list?

Abandon Affirmative Action. Ditch enforced Fascist-Communist ideas like 50% representation on demand and allow the electorate to decide who they want. If the party of the feminists must demand 50/50 - ensure it is even across all jobs - not just those that men do better.

Commit truthfully to a policy of no GST raise

Promise truthfully to cut back on politician entitlements, especially pension 'rights' which nobody else enjoys, and place them under the same regime for receipt of pension as everyone else. (let's see who we get running then!).

Install a Federal ICAC.

Enshrine earned and paid for pension for everyone - and tax income above that for everyone in the same way according to the tax scales - no grandfathering.

Chop PPL - waste of money and middle and upper class welfare

Make companies pay tax on the same tax scale as everyone else on their EARNED Income (not gross profit - net profit).

Require that any company using a tax haven pay the difference here - or alternatively pay full tax here and claim it as a deduction in their tax haven.

Place a market price on any job moved off-shore. You want livelihoods to be a disposable asset at the whim of the market - you pay market price for it HERE.

Install a National Superannuation Scheme that takes in current payments into the Pensions, and allow extra payments from those with the wherewithal up to a certain amount sufficient to replace pension, but with no tax reduction thereafter, and retain Article 5 above. You get more you pay tax on the extra....

Revert the 'education' system to one that gives merit to retained knowledge and genuine advanced thinking rather than rote.

Enforce pre-selection of a potential representative who has lived in the electorate for a considerable time and can fully promote the needs of that electorate rather than imposing party hacks from some sweetheart branch on that electorate without the leave of the people. They who live by the agenda... will die by the agenda, and the time is coming fast under the current regime of two parties which are destroying this country. (I notice Julia Gillard wanted that approach of local branch pre-selects their own, and no imposed by party HQ candidates. I give credit where credit is due).

Forbid donations to election funds, and require that any and all donations fully supply affilliations and all other details, and this to be open to public scrutiny. Better still - fund election campaigns for all equally, with no donations, and allow the people to decide.

There must be more - it's been a hard day packing up to move and I'm sure the rest of you can help this along...

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #16 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:56pm

Kat wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:37pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:35pm:

Abolish compulsory voting - no more servitude to major parties

Abolish the two party preferred system

Abolish the two major parties - they're way past their use-by date

Yeah, let's have a good old dictatorship.

It's what the right are working towards anyway.

Vote 1 - Grappler for President with absolute power.... there will be no corruption in any government I lead....

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #17 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 11:01pm

Kat wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:32pm:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Not looking for a party to immitate the great Australian Labor Party. Just waiting for the "true believers" to duly advance their position.

The Australian Labor Party must build its 2016/17 election platform based on restoration.

The $110 Billion in taxpayer paid subsidies, concessions, and tax breaks to international corporations, big business, and the wealthy, must end.

National and multi-national corporations must publicly disclose all tax liabilities to the Commonwealth.

Medicare must be fully funded, with a National Dental Care system initiated.

Private Health Insurers must be removed from the Public Hospital system, and Private Health Insurance rebates costing taxpayers $6 billion annually must cease.

Commonwealth funding to Public Schools, TAFE Centres, and Australian Universities must be fully restored.

The Commonwealth Employment Service must be rebuilt, and private employment providers must be held accountable for the $billions of taxpayer dollars defrauded from the people.

Commonwealth Social Security Services and Programs, must be re-opened, and a commitment to a National Living Wage given.

Investment in public transport infrastructure, including high speed rail, must be a priority, and national assets such as Labor's NBN, must be recovered.

The treatment of refugees, and individuals seeking asylum in Australia, must be in accordance with the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and all processing must take place on mainland Australia.

The legal, and civil rights of all Australian citizens, seriously eroded by newly enacted counter terrorism laws, must be restored and guaranteed.

All remote aboriginal communities closed by Liberal State governments must be re-opened, and all lands seized for mining exploration must be returned to the care of local indigenous people.

Indigenous Australians must be treated with all due dignity and respect, as the true custodians of this nation, and this must be reflected in Australia's constitution, legislation and by-laws.

The Australian Labor Party, must develop a program of modern 21st century socialism in order to compete internationally, and to protect Australia's national assets from the neo-liberal free market racketeers.

The Australian people are calling for restoration, equity, and justice. The leader that has the fortitude to act, will become Australia's next Labor Prime Minister.

Have a share to inspire change.

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Couldn't agree more.

Won't happen with this Labor setup though - too right-wing.

Labor needs to have a good purge, and stop endorsing right-wing candidates.

Fascists by any other name - doesn't matter if they are 'socialist' or even 'communist' - who imagine in their wildest delusions that being elected gives them total power to do and have whatever they want. No wonder they call them Feminazis.... and Feminazi running dogs.....

If only they knew the truth of their behaviour....... I do .. seen it many times in the Third World.......

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #18 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:18am

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:16pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

.....the same old tired politics of envy, pork barreling policies.

......just how will it fund it's usual spendathon with the national credit card already maxed out?

Who has max out the credit card?

Friggin Labor did or are you only 2 years old... Roll Eyes

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #19 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:36am

Swagman wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:18am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:16pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

.....the same old tired politics of envy, pork barreling policies.

......just how will it fund it's usual spendathon with the national credit card already maxed out?

Who has max out the credit card?

Friggin Labor did or are you only 2 years old... Roll Eyes

But Joe abandoned the ceiling and then spent like a sailor on speed..... perfect credentials for our next Ambassador to the United States....

Man's an nice person 1d10t with a degree..... amazing how easy money changes people's views....

"gotta fly QANTAS... yeah..QANTAS... five time five makes twenty five.... square root of twenty five is five.... always get my underpants from K-Mart..... and six fish sticks........ make that budget balance..... 25 times 10 is 250... countin' cards... yeah.. yeah.... florty times pension reduction makes eight.... square root of eight is... wait a minute.... yeah.. QANTAS.... aahhhhh ahhhhhhh.. not on a local airline....
QANTAS
... errrh errrh, errrrhh... won't balance ... eeeeerh... eeeeeerh"

"OH - FSS - SHUT UP, RAIN MAN!"

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: What Labor Should Do Reply #20 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:48am double plus good wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:19pm: Hear hear codsy. I'm a blue collar worker. I wish I had a party to vote for. As sure as s.h.i.t. stinks it aint the Labor party. Hence, you vote for copper internet: yeh,
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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #21 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:50am

double plus good wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

The Labor Party only offer a different rhetoric. Different companies, different rich people, different shareholders. Scrape away the rhetoric and it comes down to policy. This is where the ALP fails. Apart from rhetoric the ALP offers nothing but different words and inferior policy,

So, that's why you voted for copper internet ?

Roll Eyes

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: What Labor Should Do Reply #22 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:51am ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:09pm: 1 thing needs to happen if Labor stands a chance of winning Government. Shorten has to go. Nah, copper internet means he wins in any scenario! No liberal voter is proud of copper internet: not one
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double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: What Labor Should Do Reply #23 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 6:40am Dude, not everything's about copper internet.
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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #24 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 6:46am

John Smith wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

.....the same old tired politics of envy, pork barreling policies.

......just how will it fund it's usual spendathon with the national credit card already maxed out?

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yet the libs spending as a percentage of GDP is higher than labors Cheesy

Because of spending locked in (Abbott-proofed) by Labor and a long list of under-funded projects that the Coalition had no choice but to commit more funding to. Also, there's the Labor debt that wasn't being repaid by Labor, so now this government is having to increase the amount it is repaying. All this adds up to higher spending and it is all due to Labor's fiscal and policy incompetence. The truth hurts, don't it, losers?

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 28509 Gender:	Re: What Labor Should Do Reply #25 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 6:47am double plus good wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 6:40am: Dude, not everything's about copper internet. DRAH is off his/her meds. Take no notice of them.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61266 Here Gender:	Re: What Labor Should Do Reply #26 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 6:48am There are some good things on the list but it is not affordable in the short term but it does look like a good long term guide.
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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #27 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:16am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 6:48am:

There are some good things on the list but it is not affordable in the short term but it does look like a good long term guide.

Bring back the carbon levy and the MRRT, and start forcing corporates to pay their share, and we could afford it tomorrow.

I believe we CAN afford it NOW, but the money's being misdirected.

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #28 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:47am

Swagman wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:18am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:16pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

.....the same old tired politics of envy, pork barreling policies.

......just how will it fund it's usual spendathon with the national credit card already maxed out?

Who has max out the credit card?

Friggin Labor did or are you only 2 years old... Roll Eyes

What was the gross debt when labor got voted out in 2013 and what is the gross debt now. Why do you RWNJ blame everything on labor? Aren't you man enough to take responsibility for liberal government action.

We see how good you are swaggie and see if you complain about this.

I bet you don't as the Job Network set up was Howard baby

One of mates had a appointment with his Job Network "employment consultant" took 4min 20secs from start to finish and for that they get paid how much? $190 from the Government???? Australia 'the land of white collar crime'.

If he seen a average of 12 unemployed people a hour that would work out at $2280.00. Not a bad hourly rate of pay is it

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Opinions are like arseholes everyone got one.

It doesn't mean that your opinion or my opinion is right

See my post in the welcome thread reply #575 and you will know what I am like

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Re: What Labor Should Do
Reply #29 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:55am

Labor voter wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 7:47am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 27^th, 2016 at 12:18am:

Labor voter wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:16pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

.....the same old tired politics of envy, pork barreling policies.

......just how will it fund it's usual spendathon with the national credit card already maxed out?

Who has max out the credit card?

Friggin Labor did or are you only 2 years old... Roll Eyes

What was the gross debt when labor got voted out in 2013 and what is the gross debt now. Why do you RWNJ blame everything on labor? Aren't you man enough to take responsibility for liberal government action.

We see how good you are swaggie and see if you complain about this.

I bet you don't as the Job Network set up was Howard baby

One of mates had a appointment with his Job Network "employment consultant" took 4min 20secs from start to finish and for that they get paid how much? $190 from the Government???? Australia 'the land of white collar crime'.

If he seen a average of 12 unemployed people a hour that would work out at $2280.00. Not a bad hourly rate of pay is it

Debt 2007: -$22bn
Debt 2013: +$300bn

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