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ABC The Drum 25/1
Jan 26^th, 2016 at 9:07am

Interesting episode with Maajid Nawaz joins Rebecca Weisser, John Stanley and Sara Saleh.

How big anidiot is Sara Saleh. She really thinks that Muslims wanting religious theocracy in Australia is just another opinion that should be respected. Yup great. Was great to see Rebecca Weisser put her in her place by saying that support for secular democracy should be unconditional by any immigrants.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52919 At my desk.	Re: ABC The Drum 25/1 Reply #1 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 9:10am Perhaps we should also consider Nazism. It would be disrespectful not to. Back in the golden age, they had wonderful railways.
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Reply #2 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 9:24am

GordyL wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 9:07am:

Interesting episode with Maajid Nawaz joins Rebecca Weisser, John Stanley and Sara Saleh.

How big anidiot is Sara Saleh. She really thinks that Muslims wanting religious theocracy in Australia is just another opinion that should be respected. Yup great. Was great to see Rebecca Weisser put her in her place by saying that support for secular democracy should be unconditional by any immigrants.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-25/the-drum-monday-january-25/7113980

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-25/the-reformation-of-maajid-nawaz/7113994

Google;
site:http://www.jihadwatch.org/ Maajid Nawaz, reform

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #3 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 11:46am

freediver wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 9:10am:

Perhaps we should also consider Nazism..

We do. We belong to a site with a core group of Nazis. Herbie was once one. Plenty of members here believe in most of the Nazi policies, including liebensraum and the final solution.

So yes, some here do consider Nazism and we’re all most jolly to them. We’d fight to the death for such jollies, no?

Surrender is not an option.

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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: ABC The Drum 25/1 Reply #4 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:22pm Most boring segment ever.
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52919 At my desk.	Re: ABC The Drum 25/1 Reply #5 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 2:25pm So tell us about the Nazi love room Karnal.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: ABC The Drum 25/1 Reply #6 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 2:27pm wally1 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:22pm: Most boring segment ever. So that's how you shrug off a suggestion of Islamic theocracy . . .a boring segment? If it was about a Christian theocracy we wouldn't be able to shut you up.
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52919 At my desk.	Re: ABC The Drum 25/1 Reply #7 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 2:42pm Wally what are you thoughts on Islamic theocracy?
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Re: ABC The Drum 25/1
Reply #8 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 2:49pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

wally1 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:22pm:

Most boring segment ever.

So that's how you shrug off a suggestion of Islamic theocracy . . .a boring segment?
If it was about a Christian theocracy we wouldn't be able to shut you up.

Sarah never mentioned she wanted a theocracy in australia

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Reply #9 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:08pm

wally1 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 2:49pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

wally1 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:22pm:

Most boring segment ever.

So that's how you shrug off a suggestion of Islamic theocracy . . .a boring segment?
If it was about a Christian theocracy we wouldn't be able to shut you up.

Sarah never mentioned she wanted a theocracy in australia

No but she thinks it's a valid view to be respected.

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Re: ABC The Drum 25/1
Reply #10 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 5:21pm

GordyL wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

wally1 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 2:49pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 2:27pm:

wally1 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 1:22pm:

Most boring segment ever.

So that's how you shrug off a suggestion of Islamic theocracy . . .a boring segment?
If it was about a Christian theocracy we wouldn't be able to shut you up.

Sarah never mentioned she wanted a theocracy in australia

No but she thinks it's a valid view to be respected.

Here's the video
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-25/the-drum-monday-january-25/7113980

I just watched it from beginning to end. Not once did she say that believing in a theocracy is a "valid" view that should be "respected". Not once.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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GordyL Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4365 Hate Town Gender:	Re: ABC The Drum 25/1 Reply #11 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 6:02pm She said: "You only believe in one way of a government, only a secularism and no room for a theocracy.. so what I'm trying to say is there doesn't need to be that limitation." My answer is, sorry lady, but even discussing an Islamic theocracy as a thought experiment in Australia is off the table.
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Reply #12 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 7:13pm

freediver wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 2:25pm:

So tell us about the Nazi love room Karnal.

No worries, FD. I’ll show you with an example. Do you agree with Yadda’s final solution for the Muselman? Do you agree with Honky and Homo’s stance on racial iinterbreeding? Do you agree with the old boy’s love of blitzkrieg and his plan to recolonize the tinted races? Do you agree with Herbie’s vision of rounding up every race traitor, in the fullness of time, and putting a bullet in the back of their heads?

You will, of course, refuse to answer. Your evasion of these questions will demonstrate the Nazi within, that Nazi you’ve been so keen to hide since 2007, that you’ve given up all discussion of your own views lest it sneak out.

We miss the 2007 FD, peace be upon him, but I fear we’ve lost him for good.

Still, you’re free to discuss your new views with us here, FD. You will, I can assure you, find us a most sympathetic audience.

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Reply #13 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 7:40pm

Karnal last time you asked if I agreed with someone else's position on an issue, they responded by accusing you of outright lies.

GordyL wrote on Jan 26^th, 2016 at 6:02pm:

She said:
"You only believe in one way of a government, only a secularism and no room for a theocracy.. so what I'm trying to say is there doesn't need to be that limitation."

My answer is, sorry lady, but even discussing an Islamic theocracy as a thought experiment in Australia is off the table.

Gandalf were you really so eager to see the good in this fellow Muslim that you didn't pick up on this, despite watching the video specifically for references from her to theocracy?

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Big Donger Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102383	Re: ABC The Drum 25/1 Reply #14 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 8:19pm So you read that question, eh?
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